• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

PPACA upheld

Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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If this isn't PROOF that the country is increasingly moving left, I don't know what is.
Supreme Court Justice: soon to become synonymous with used car salesmen and politicians.
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
Chief Justice John Roberts argued that "all bets are off" when it comes to the federal government authority if Congress was found to have the authority to regulate health care in the name of commerce.

This makes ObamaCare the largest tax increase in American history.
An overwhelming majority of Americans (54%-38%) want the individual mandate part of the bill repealed.

I think it's a double edge sword for Obama and the democrats, a major victory in court but it very well could be his demise come November.
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the ruling will likely forever cancel any chance for a single payer system.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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canndo said:
the ruling will likely forever cancel any chance for a single payer system.
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Why so? Clearly a single payer system is a constitutional exercise in taxing power. Frankly, I think a single payer system would be MUCH better than the PPACA monstrosity. Do you think single payer is simply politically undoable?
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Now I realize that most cannot afford to pay for healthcare out of pocket, but I do b/c I have no deps and have paid cash for years. In the rare instance of an emergency, I made payments on the ER visit so now my credit is good in the unlikely event it should occur again. Since the country is already shit with no improvement in sight, I make my own economy independent of regulations. Therefore I will not pay for all of yours(MBP)and your children's health insurance.
 
M B P

M B P

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Sunbiz1 said:
Now I realize that most cannot afford to pay for healthcare out of pocket, but I do b/c I have no deps and have paid cash for years. In the rare instance of an emergency, I made payments on the ER visit so now my credit is good in the unlikely event it should occur again. Since the country is already shit with no improvement in sight, I make my own economy independent of regulations. Therefore I will not pay for all of yours(MBP)and your children's health insurance.
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no... I will be paying for my own insurance... that was my point. and I don't/won't ever have kids....?
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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Seriously, read between the lines, Congress will repeal it next week and when it goes to the Senate they will have to kill it also as it is now labeled as a tax increase. No Politician will be re elected if they vote for a tax increase, not Dems not Repubs.


Will be a non issue within a month.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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Sunbiz1 said:
Now I realize that most cannot afford to pay for healthcare out of pocket, but I do b/c I have no deps and have paid cash for years. In the rare instance of an emergency, I made payments on the ER visit so now my credit is good in the unlikely event it should occur again. Since the country is already shit with no improvement in sight, I make my own economy independent of regulations. Therefore I will not pay for all of yours(MBP)and your children's health insurance.
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You heartless, cruel bastard! You have the unmitigated gall to pretend that your earnings are yours. You just want to see people die in the streets, and women get pregnant because they can't afford contraceptives.
 
J

JustAnotherHead

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Will the best of the best surgeons go under-ground, black-market so the rich people still get the best care? While the rest of get the new public defender version of a doctor?
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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Can someone a liberal explain how individual mandates will make healthcare cheaper when it has done the opposite in Massachusetts?

Can a conservative explain how Romney has any right to attack Obamacare?
 
M B P

M B P

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chrishydro said:
Seriously, read between the lines, Congress will repeal it next week and when it goes to the Senate they will have to kill it also as it is now labeled as a tax increase. No Politician will be re elected if they vote for a tax increase, not Dems not Repubs.


Will be a non issue within a month.
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the vote happened 3 years ago... there is no new vote on this. Here is the only path to repeal: Republicans take the presidency... they hold on or increase their seats in the house... and they get 60 senators. best of luck. ;-)
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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M B P said:
the vote happened 3 years ago... there is no new vote on this. Here is the only path to repeal: Republicans take the presidency... they hold on or increase their seats in the house... they get 60 senators. best of luck. ;-)
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Or when healthcare costs increase substantially and people realize that they are paying more through their premiums then they ever did before.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Cancer is the leading cause of death. It is a felony in California for a doctor to treat cancer with any method other than chemotherapy, radiotherapy, and surgery. Come on down to Mexico, it's a free country.
 
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