trayvan martin

cannabineer

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From my brief reading it stands for Make My Day, and it essentially guarantees the right to use deadly force to defend your home. If I have this wrong, somebody please pipe up. cn
<add> It's a way to say "castle doctrine" and make it sound gun-nutty imo.
 

Harrekin

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No. MMD is (afaik) specific to inside one's own dwelling. SYG is broader. cn
We need a MMD law, lol, the Dirty Harry reference possibilities are endless!

Thankfully due to case law, we can blast away at intruders and you've a 99% chance of getting away with it, even if they're running away :D
 

UncleBuck

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for his story to match up to the timeline, he would have had to walk at a snail's pace (quite literally) back to his truck.

like, tke a 2 inch step, pause for a second, another 2 inch step, pause...and so on.

how do they end up to the south of the T in the sidewalk by the way? that doesn't comport with physics.

it would only make sense if zimm tried to detain martin. otherwise, a punch from someone to your south would not send you further to the south.

it's gonna be fun to argue over thi and match it up to the timeline. epic thread revitalized.
 

Harrekin

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cool story bro.

too bad it doesn't match up with eyewitness statements or your own story during the interrogations.
Yeah that story is total pile of horse-shit, saw it on the news last night.

Do people not have "locked" holsters btw? You know, so people don't try take your pistol off you and use it on you?!
 

UncleBuck

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Yeah that story is total pile of horse-shit, saw it on the news last night.

Do people not have "locked" holsters btw? You know, so people don't try take your pistol off you and use it on you?!
zimmbot was on a budget i suppose.

i just thought of another thing that doesn't match up.

in the video, zimm says he didn't think he hit martin with his gunshot, and describes in really precise detail what the murder itself was like. martin says "you got me" or "you shot me", and he magically goes into an upright, hands-up-surrender position as to say "you got me" or "you shot me".

and then all of a sudden, he says he doesn't remember anything anymore. he said thinks he did not even shoot the kid, and so gets on top of him after his brutal, non-life threatening "beating" and says he was calling to others to help him detain the guy.

he never mentions someone asking him for help and him finally responding to it by saying "call 911" seconds after the gunshot is fired. multiple witnesses saw what happened after the gunshot. zimm was straddling martin for a few seconds, then got up looking worried, walked back to the sidewalk, put his hand to his forehead etc.

that is one of the key parts where his story does not match with eyewitness accounts. plural.

it also does not match up to his own account in the interrogation room, where zimm says he shot the guy at point blank range. how do you say you shot someone at point blank range, yet proclaim to think you missed?

serino said the bullet went right through martin's heart. how do you say you think you missed from point blank range, about 0''-5'' by the autopsy reports?

i can believe there was a fight, but zimm was not simply walking back to his truck, and his injuries and the length of the fight were nowhere near life threatening. not to mention zimm provoked the whole thing.

his stories are bunk. they contradict each other and the eyewitness reports. that doesn't mean he can't create his reasonable doubt, but i'm still guessing manslaughter. who knows if negligent or aggravated. my personal opinion is aggravated.
 

UncleBuck

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"these guys were always getting away"

hey, guys. remember how i've had kids steal from me twice? they always get away. this has inspired murderous feelings upon a portion of a group of stoners. keep that in mind. we like weed. the thing that makes you feel mellow.

now, my first thought was to take the high road of just warning the parents of the possible consequences of their sons' actions, my second thought was to troll them IRL, and my final thought was to take the high road and just warn their parents about the consequences of their sons' trespassing, the penalties about what they were stealing, if they did the same thing to other growers in the area who might not be as peaceful and mindful as me, and the possibility of CPS taking their kids away if crimes like this are allowed and not punished severely. it never crossed my mind to buy a gun, and this was on my own property, not others' property.

zimm was on adderall. that's basically helpful meth, supposedly. how do you think someone with ADHD, taking two meth pills a day by his own admission, felt about break ins in his neighborhood? i mean, my neighbors are pissed at these damn kids, but no murderous outrage like i have seen expressed by some stoners here. so imagine what an meth head like zimm thought about it.

smart money is on meth man trying to detain the stoner after hunting him. he was worried about martin being in earshot and hearing his address, so he didn't give it out. if that's how paranoid zimm was on meth, imagine how paranoid martin was on weed to go back to his home with a creepy guy following him. zimm punished an innocent kid who may or may not have resembled someone who robbed one of his neighbors with a death penalty. that's meth head behavior.

and for shit sake, this thread is just starting. trial to come.
 

scroglodyte

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politically motivated charges. appeasement.
why have "whites" been attacked? the only "white" thing about Zimmerman is his name. let the blacks go attack the Hispanic community, and have their asses handed to them.
that little fucker is smiling from the grave with hi' shiny gangsta teet'
 

UncleBuck

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he says he has a terrible memory and can't remember the three street names in his neighborhood, but he knows ALL of the kids and ALL of the adults.

the 'night of' statement is more promising than the 'days after' statements so far.
 

UncleBuck

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did anyone else note that big sigh that zimm took at 6:15-6:40 on the 'night of' interrogation, as soon as the officer leaves the room?
 

UncleBuck

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zimmerman says martin was "circling his car" in the night of tape, but on the dispatch call, he never describes anything remotely close to that.

oh, for fuck sake. we have a bad liar here.
 

UncleBuck

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on the 'night of' tape, zimm says he told the make/model of his vehicle to dispatch. add that to the list of demonstrable lies.
 

UncleBuck

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"i think i shot him, it might have pushed him back"

yep. gunshots to the heart do that.

and i am marie of romania. but of course, he does not remember that detail.

seems legit.
 

UncleBuck

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his 'night of' descriptions do not match the later descriptions or eyewitness descriptions of what happened after the gunshot.
 
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