Does my plant look healthy? and its flowering pistils on a 18-6 cycle, not autoflower

kennyp02

Active Member
Im using a 400w mh
the temps sometimes raise to over 90 F
I have two fans circulating air (Helps alot)
Strain: Black Jack Feminized
I just transplanted into 5 gal
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For some reason i have them on a 18-6 light cycle and they're flowering pistils and they're not auto.
First indoor grow, any suggestions are accepeted.
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chaky

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These are preflowers. They are 100% normal.

I would however try to drop the temp down to ~80 F. Happened to be in the same boat with 400W MH like a month ago. Better air circulation + AC working daytime will work wonders.
 

monkeybones

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lower bits of the plant are starting to be shaded and starve for light

does look healthy besides

i would also remove the tinfoil

and replace it with something like mylar. you can get it as "emergency blanket" at the dollar store
 

cc08150

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That could be the reason the bottom leaves are drooping, but it could also be due to lack of light like said above. How much are you watering and how often?
 

Dr Kynes

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i see no flowers, just branching nodes. where your fan leaves join the main stem, little branches will grow towards the light. when you got a few of those thats what you cut off for "clones". some plants will show tiny flowers in vegetative growth, and thus display their sex, but many dont (none of mine have preflowers at all and they are now 36 inches tall with numerous healthy branching limbs).

that plant looks healthy as fuck bro, treat her like a lady, and youll be smoking soon enough.

slow and progressive lower leaf yellowing is usually a sign that she wants a little more nitrogen. but just a little! adding side lights will increase branching, and if you keep turning her /14 turn every day with a side light on either side she will get bushy as fuck, and create more dope.
 

kennyp02

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Should I buy some nitrogen sticks to see if that helps from lowes? I've been trying to the best I can for her. but I learn things everyday.
 

cc08150

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Doesn't look like Nitrogen deficiency to me. The leaves are plenty green. And you just transplanted to a bigger pot, so unless that soil had absolutely no nutrients to begin with, you should be fine on nitrogen until the 3rd or 4th week of flowering. I'd invest in a bottle of fish emulsion from Home Depot. They sell the fish emulsion that has an NPK of 5-1-1. Those nitrogen sticks are not reliable because you don't know how much nitrogen they are putting out at a given time.
The bottom fan leaves are just drooping, which means either too much water, too little water, too much heat, or not enough light. My bet would be not enough light just because the fan leaves in the first picture near the bottom look shaded by the fan leaves higher up. I always trim off a couple top fan leaves if I have a Christmas tree shaped plant just to let more light get to the bottom.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100131259/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=fish+emulsion&storeId=10051


As for watering....since you are now in a 5 gallon pot, water each time the top of the soil gets dry...not like desert dry but the top of the soil needs to look a lighter color than when it gets watered. In 5 gallon buckets under 400watt lights in my grow op (80-85F and 60-65% humidity), I have to water every day for my plants that are taller than 2 feet and every other day for those under 2 feet (flowering plants). I water with a 3 liter jug, fill it full and pour it into each of my 5 gallon pots needing water. The runoff after watering is about 10% of that 3 liter bottle, which lets me know that all of my soil in 5 gallon buckets got plenty water.
 

jpockets420

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Plant looks good. Don't use tinfoil..its worthless, dont use plant food sticks..they are not good for growing cannabis, and start watering more less often instead of a half cup every couple days. Wait til the pot is very light then water til there is plenty of runoff out the bottom of the pot. If you keep watering like that you will get toxic salt buildup and be in a world of trouble come mid flower.
 

Dr Kynes

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Should I buy some nitrogen sticks to see if that helps from lowes? I've been trying to the best I can for her. but I learn things everyday.
if youre on a budget, got to lowes or home depot, and get miracle grow plant and vegetable food (14 14 14) in the Shake-N-Feed canister. use as directed, a cluster of pellets the size of a dime thrown on top of the soil. as you water they slowly dissolve like a tic-tac feeding your plants. when youre ready to flower use the Shake-N-Feed rose food the same way. These are by no means the BEST way to raise a plant but they do quite well, and are relatively fuck-up proof. want to raise the dose? add a few more pellets. Oops! too much? just pick a few out of the dirt.

Despite what some may tel you Miracle Grow and other chemical fertilizers ARE NOT TOXIC, dont contain heavy metals or radioactive waste, and will not make your dope into a suicide machine. the stuff is safe, and effective. i grow my tomatoes and other vegetables using this stuff in pots, and for indoor plants (it doesnt stink or go sour) and have done so for years. . My aging mother who cant grow shit now has both a topsy-turvy tomato and strawberry planter set up using this stuff, but for her raised bed garden i made a custom mix of her native soil, rich properly composted plant material, chicken shit, worm castings and Miracle Grow Shake-N-Feed. This stuff is like a crutch. as long as she waters her garden and her topsy turvies (they really do work if your area doesnt get too hot in the summer and bake the roots) she will have vegetables lettuce peppers and tomatoes all summer long. if the shit was poisonous dangerous, slightly dodgey or even mildly questionable i would not touch it with a 3 meter cattle prod strapped to a 50 foot extendable apple picker being used by an inexpensive prostitute who nobody would miss when i bury her under an almond tree in the corner of my garden... or perhaps i've said too much.
 

Dr Kynes

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Doesn't look like Nitrogen deficiency to me. The leaves are plenty green. And you just transplanted to a bigger pot, so unless that soil had absolutely no nutrients to begin with, you should be fine on nitrogen until the 3rd or 4th week of flowering. I'd invest in a bottle of fish emulsion from Home Depot. They sell the fish emulsion that has an NPK of 5-1-1. Those nitrogen sticks are not reliable because you don't know how much nitrogen they are putting out at a given time.
The bottom fan leaves are just drooping, which means either too much water, too little water, too much heat, or not enough light. My bet would be not enough light just because the fan leaves in the first picture near the bottom look shaded by the fan leaves higher up. I always trim off a couple top fan leaves if I have a Christmas tree shaped plant just to let more light get to the bottom.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100131259/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=fish+emulsion&storeId=10051


As for watering....since you are now in a 5 gallon pot, water each time the top of the soil gets dry...not like desert dry but the top of the soil needs to look a lighter color than when it gets watered. In 5 gallon buckets under 400watt lights in my grow op (80-85F and 60-65% humidity), I have to water every day for my plants that are taller than 2 feet and every other day for those under 2 feet (flowering plants). I water with a 3 liter jug, fill it full and pour it into each of my 5 gallon pots needing water. The runoff after watering is about 10% of that 3 liter bottle, which lets me know that all of my soil in 5 gallon buckets got plenty water.

what he said, except the fish emulsion. the smell will drive you out of your house. its like low tide on a salt marsh in august next door to a sewage treatment plant with a single stick of doublemint gum in your mouth. just plain nasty. but a little minty.

keep an eye on the lower leaves, if they continue yellowing then you need fertilizer, but just a little bit at a time.

those plant sticks suck balls. they are intended for slow growing houseplants like african violets, and they suck even at that. unless you want to take a crash course in plant nutrition (which is quite possible on this forum) use a complete plant food. the best ones will seem expensive (fox farms, canna, advanced nutriens, etc...) but really deliver. Among the cheap ones, Shake-N-Feed or Osmocote are the best easiest to use, and most reliable. the liquid plant foods from lowes and home depot are really easy to overdose with, and will sometimes be harsh and burning on the foliage. keep it simple, and follow directions on the top notch shit, or the Shake-N-Feed, but on the really cheap shit 1/4 dose to a max of 1/2 dose every other watering will be your choice for good growth without burning or over feeding.

water deeply and thoroughly, but less often, dont let your plant stand in it's runoff, and ventilate the heat some to keep temps and humidity down. in hot climates plants use shitloads more water, and make shitloads of humidity (fungus danger0 to keep cool. ventilation with outside air even if it's hot outside will help your plants stay cool. or just use an air conditioner.
 

kennyp02

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I do use miracle gro vegetable water dissolvable fert. Ive been applying for awhile but yeah more water less often. Im getting a 25 watt cfl to replace the tinfoil and some Mylar. I have a 20in lasko box fan it keeps it pretty cool and thermostat but still only keeps it at 90. But I live in a hot and humid climate as it is.

Also there are pistils look close in the close up pic
 

nick17gar

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yes that just means its reaches sexual maturity, puberty basically.

you should cut that bitch in half. clone the top. keep vegging.
 

kennyp02

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001.jpg Still yellowing... Going to grab a CFL to see if its light. I think it is

if i wanted to clone where would i cut exactly?
 

Dr Kynes

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looks like only the one lowest leaf is yellowing, a leaf that doesnt get enough light will prune itself to ensure the plant keeps growing. thats normal and healthy. if you see general yellowing of all the older leaves thats when you step up the Nitrogen but be super careful with the miracle grow water soluble fertilizers. they can burn and make salt real quick.

for bein 8under a 400w metal halide that plant is kinda small, and not very branchy. lose the black plastic or paint it white. Black surfaces absorb light and make heat. im less worried about the aluminium foil than the black plastic walls.

keep going with the water/fertilizer your doin, its working pretty good, but make sure to get some reflective material up so the black shit doesnt make heat.
 

Dr Kynes

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View attachment 2220625 Still yellowing... Going to grab a CFL to see if its light. I think it is

if i wanted to clone where would i cut exactly?

if you want to propagate with cuttings, make branches. side lighting and patience will make all the branches you need to make cuttings. topping a juvenile plant like that to make a cutting will most likely just kill it.
 

90cody

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dont top the plant yet, to small.
need white or mylar walls
you should water until u have run off, and only when you poke 1 inch of ur finger in top soil and if the tip of ur finger feels dry it needs water
your plant does look like its not getting the water regiment it needs.
plant looks like it has good nutes dont add more yet

also, if ur watering right and still having problems, you may have too much water rentention in your soil
and your plant can show sex at anytime after 3 weeks, which is what your plant is telling u

good luck
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