Whats your opinion on immigration??

[UncleBuck]

first off i want to say every generation has had there influx of immigrants.And i do feel like there is a hispanic invasion yes and not to sound like a dick,but im not liking it at all.I dont have a problsem with it if they came the proper way threw goverment channels and contribute to the population.but they deal in cash and send back money to their country that an american could have made and put money into our economy

first off, it's their money. they worked for it, they get to do whatever the fuck they please with it.

second, it's clear that you didn't read the link i posted which is full of studies about the cost assessment of illegal immigrants. study after study shows they contribute to our coffers and local economies.

but do go on with your "facts".

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

lol, bro

I see your from So Cal, and you say they in the spotlight??

[video=youtube;4no3_kUJkIo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4no3_kUJkIo[/video]

 

[Winter Woman]

use what, studies to support my assertions?

i thought that was how debate was supposed to work rather than chiding someone as a thief for giving people jobs to people that need jobs. of course, i am just as guilty with the whole hosing off thing, but i really think it would do you wonders.

enjoy your walk.

I didn't say studies. I meant that group.

Enjoyed the walk one of our neighbors just finished redoing a 1967 Austin Healey woodsided 'truck'. I was drooling all over it. It was so small in fit inside a 6 x 12 trailer.

 

[Winter Woman]

Fact is UB this site is too slow tonight.

Here are some facts (yes, cut and past)

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
Verify at: Home | Federation for American Immigration Reform


2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html


5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at CNN.com - Transcripts


6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts


7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts


8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts


10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts


11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: Redirecting...


12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf


13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?


14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.’
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU’RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.


This site really is too slow. Catch ya in the morning

 

[Scrotie Mcboogerballs]

I didn't say studies. I meant that group.

Enjoyed the walk one of our neighbors just finished redoing a 1967 Austin Healey woodsided 'truck'. I was drooling all over it. It was so small in fit inside a 6 x 12 trailer.

Just saw a couple of those come through my town this weekend actually. so fly. appropriate accessories are an old skull cap, goggles and blunt with the top down. yes please!

 

[cannabineer]

I know if you have a problem with immagration pack your shit and imagrate back where came
From. I hope all you fucks get ran over by a car(your dogs too)

Such a gentle sentiment.

cn

 

[ted bundy]

Sorry for the double post.... Im pissed

 

[Winter Woman]

I know if you have a problem with immagration pack your shit and imagrate back where came
From. I hope all you fucks get ran over by a car(your dogs too)

Someone has to change their ID to post?

 

[neosapien]

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[ted bundy]

Such a gentle sentiment. :facepalm: cn

You have no idea :bootfuck:

 

[ted bundy]

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Thanks. Aint that the truth

 

[UncleBuck]

Fact is UB this site is too slow tonight.

Here are some facts (yes, cut and past)

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
Verify at: Home | Federation for American Immigration Reform

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The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU’RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.


This site really is too slow. Catch ya in the morning

you are aware you're quoting facts from a hate group, right?



facts are that despite some legitimate costs of illegals, they overall contribute to our coffers. they pay property taxes and sales taxes and often pay into SS and medicaid just like any legal citizen.

oh, there' crime amongst illegals? guess what, there are crimes amongst legal citizens too! imagine that.

it's probably not a wise idea to quote statistics from hate groups who are more or less white supremacists. kind of reflects badly on you.

 

[DelSlow]

 

[smokebomb1]

This is what i mean by consequences. Like i said they crossed illegally so that should be part of the consequence. You know the canadian border is about 5500 miles long and we dont have nearly the problem we have with the mexican border at around 2000 miles long. They are breaking the fucking law and continue to do so when they illegally take up residence here. Our government will not do anything to stop this problem so i say fuck illegals and there fucking illegal offspring! there goddamn non english speaking kids are fucking up the school system and making it harder for my kids to get a decent education because the teachers are so focused on trying to learn there fucking language. I dont give a fuck about the illegals or there damn kids. When the government does what they should, cut them off welfare and foodstamps, and any kind of government help maybe they will go back to the shit holes they came from so the fucked up USA can get back on track! Im so sick of having to read instructions in Spanish or going to the market and seeing everything in fucking Spanish. When the fuck did we become mexico. And i shouldnt have to be the one to press one for fucking English!

so, a family brings a kid into this country, the kid has no choice in it, but kick him/her out anyway?

how exactly do we go about rounding up 12 million people?

i mean, it would be an excellent way to suck billions of dollars out of our economies, but what's the point other than being a dick?

 

[sandiegojack2]

smokebomb your a sad excuse for a human being get that human being not hispanic or jewish or armenian or what ever you think you may be..other than an ass!

 

[UncleBuck]

This is what i mean by consequences. Like i said they crossed illegally so that should be part of the consequence. You know the canadian border is about 5500 miles long and we dont have nearly the problem we have with the mexican border at around 2000 miles long. They are breaking the fucking law and continue to do so when they illegally take up residence here. Our government will not do anything to stop this problem so i say fuck illegals and there fucking illegal offspring! there goddamn non english speaking kids are fucking up the school system and making it harder for my kids to get a decent education because the teachers are so focused on trying to learn there fucking language. I dont give a fuck about the illegals or there damn kids. When the government does what they should, cut them off welfare and foodstamps, and any kind of government help maybe they will go back to the shit holes they came from so the fucked up USA can get back on track! Im so sick of having to read instructions in Spanish or going to the market and seeing everything in fucking Spanish. When the fuck did we become mexico. And i shouldnt have to be the one to press one for fucking English!

so, it's your opinion that illegal immigration is the thing that's keeping america from being on the right track?

channel your rage bro. maybe smoke a bowl or something.

 

[abandonconflict]

 

[neosapien]

This is what i mean by consequences. Like i said they crossed illegally so that should be part of the consequence. You know the canadian border is about 5500 miles long and we dont have nearly the problem we have with the mexican border at around 2000 miles long. They are breaking the fucking law and continue to do so when they illegally take up residence here. Our government will not do anything to stop this problem so i say fuck illegals and there fucking illegal offspring! there goddamn non english speaking kids are fucking up the school system and making it harder for my kids to get a decent education because the teachers are so focused on trying to learn there fucking language. I dont give a fuck about the illegals or there damn kids. When the government does what they should, cut them off welfare and foodstamps, and any kind of government help maybe they will go back to the shit holes they came from so the fucked up USA can get back on track! Im so sick of having to read instructions in Spanish or going to the market and seeing everything in fucking Spanish. When the fuck did we become mexico. And i shouldnt have to be the one to press one for fucking English!

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[Hepheastus420]

I'm suggesting he should do it right, or not at all. The attitude "I can make this work if I buy into a widespread social cheating mechanism" should really mean "I cannot make this work honestly". I realize that when livelihood is at stake, especially in this sustained bad economy, the moral calculus becomes consequential, but no more right. Make of it what you will. But that is my firm opinion. How do you feel about a society whose prime directive becomes "don't get caught"? Doesn't that effectively define corruption? My opinion. cn

I'm not saying it's fine as long as they don't get caught, I just think it's fine that they are completely willing to work with my dad to provide for their families.

 

[cannabineer]

I'm not saying it's fine as long as they don't get caught, I just think it's fine that they are completely willing to work with my dad to provide for their families.

I cannot argue against that. Imo the moral burden is on your dad in this instance. I don't have any easy answers because i realize economic decisions have real human consequences. just understand, for your own moral journey, that this is not a victimless arrangement. I don't want or have the privilege to come off as the heavy here. But WW has a basic point: labor law should be evenly applied, if at all. cn

<add> Like your new avi. cn