My LED laboratory

MstrWilliam

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if you put panels on top and 2 on sides with mylar reflector paper its awesome i had such a big yeild but i was also growing BC big budd but still it worked great
LIAR....lol


I have 1 each side, 2 on back, reflectix all around, 4 led floods shining down, and 3 cfls (gasp) for boosting and other spectrums.

she loves it!
 

VictorVIcious

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Thats good to know I dont know all that wiring would make me nuts.
....as abc and sometimes d. Wiring an array like that can be simple if you buy some thing to make it easy, good tools, good parts, save the labor. I hope you can see these connectors, I think Al B was the first one I saw post them. They are better than wire nuts. Here is the single connector and a 6 space connector, I think Menards carries them up to 10 hole. You kinda 'plug' into the connector. I was using them to connect wires for a light over the kitchen sink and my wife asked me about them. Say what?? When I pushed the wire into the connector she could see the wire, I can't but I am a little older than Chris is. She thought that was a neat idea, she could tell if the circuit was done because she could 'see' it lock into place. :blsmoke:
 

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MstrWilliam

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....as abc and sometimes d. Wiring an array like that can be simple if you buy some thing to make it easy, good tools, good parts, save the labor. :blsmoke:
ditto that....I just used buttsplices and shrink wrap and wired all cords to one line/plug....what you did is really nice...and removable.....mine gets cut and rewired as the design changes...
 

MstrWilliam

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I have mentioned this in other threads, but I will do so here as well. The mfg of my led floods is now selling both a 90wt and a 300wt fixture. the 300 wt would rival a 1000wt hps.....hmmmmmm should I spend the money? I know pros in my area who want to by the 90wtrs and sling 10 into a room. at $420 apiece I thought he was nuts.....then the smoke cleared and I realized that a simple lb would pay for them. I don't know what the 300wtrs will run, but I am guessing a bit more than 420.....will keep you updated.

I plan to throw my led box into a 21:36on/12off regime this week. she's been on 12/12 for 22 days now. I want to get new pix for you to see how tight the buds are forming on the stalks, but I keep getting to her after the light goes out. So for now just imagine that she is kicking ass and taking names......and I will love her and pet her and call her georgina!
 

Carribean Blue

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that is a sweet setup but the most cost affective for me are 20 watt cfls (100 watt equivilent) and i got 20 and thinkin ofn 40 for my next set up about 4000 watts equivilent
 

MstrWilliam

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that is a sweet setup but the most cost affective for me are 20 watt cfls (100 watt equivilent) and i got 20 and thinkin ofn 40 for my next set up about 4000 watts equivilent

My first light board had 14 of those, 6 led panels, and 4 led floods.....
I read somewhere that adding more didin't really boost the total output, but spread it around nicely....I dunno....that board was bright as fuck, but if you think of the cost of cfls....mine avg 6.50 apiece, then you could buy a nice t5 fluoro fixture and end up saving in the end....I know people who set 4 pioneer VIIIs in a room and go to town.....check em out....and keep experimenting!
 

MstrWilliam

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I copied this for those interested....


Pros and Contras LED Grow Light Systems
There are some pro and contras when it comes to LED grow light systems. When planning such farming alternatives, one has to carefully consider that plants do use light at all wavelengths from UV to IR, as explained above, needed to convert water and carbon dioxide into sugars. Some plants use more red and blue, less green and yellow, while others use green as much as they use red and blue, as well as the light in between. If LEDs are chosen for brightness, there is one aspect to be underlined: they just look bright because their light is unidirectional and their size is small. To get enough light there are many LEDs needed, that’s why the cost of LED arrays or LED modules is so high. LEDs can be calibrated to emit only the light most efficient for the plants, but not all the light plants need. This is why such light sources are recommended only in places where direct light from the sun is not enough or inexistent – space farming for example. Also in places where light from the sun is too strong and can harm the plants with the high emission of UV, LEDs are a good choice, because UV filters are stopping some of the useful wavelengths too. In wintertime the weather conditions restrain crop production this is why greenhouses need a substitute for the natural light. It makes sense to deliver plants the minimum lighting conditions for a corresponding evolution.
There are some significant factors to take into account when choosing light sources for such applications and these are low costs, energy efficiency, long life, and ability to withstand voltage fluctuations, modularity in order to grant users the possibility to assemble arrays that gives as much light as needed, where needed. LEDs are pretty efficient in the conversion of electric power to light, in any case more than traditional fluorescent and incandescent lamps. Due to the fact that light emitting diodes can be manufactured to emit a specific wavelength and are expected to have a long life span (from 50000 hours up), many plant physiologists are considering using them in large applications. Compared to LEDs most of the other traditional lamps have to be replaced every two-three years. Other features such as choice of viewing angles, control options, instant turn on times, cold start and much more, recommend the semiconductor devices. At present this is still an expensive technology, but in time LEDs efficiency will be maximized while prices reduced and these details are a good base for future planning.




The future's so bright..........I'm gonna get paid!!!!
 

MstrWilliam

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Ok....so reading thru some people's ?s, or exp with LEDs. there is a common theme. People BASHING them. "They kill plants....They don't bud properly....A waste of time....A waste of money...." Most of these people are stuck on a 1 track mind. That which they don't understand, they fear. Out of fear, they attack, condemn, and basically smear. I won't go on.

Please find attached the following pix.

1) a dead plant.....maybe the cfls killed it!
2) lack of budding....
3) no trichrome production happening

Did all the LEDs do this????
Did the CFLs do it?????
Praying for the best....they still have 4.5 weeks to go....


Damn I hope LEDs start to work soon!!!
 

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MstrWilliam

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is it record-breaking, stupendous, or better than anyone else's shit?

Probably not,
but
it is positive.

Stay cool!
 

nickfury510

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nice set up bro.....about a 1 1/2 weeks ago i put 3 of those multi spectrum leds..the 13w floods into my cfl setup and the plants are doing great under them...im ordering 3 more and am going to continue my cfl grow with leds...the plants seem to love them in the veg stage.....
 

MstrWilliam

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nice set up bro.....about a 1 1/2 weeks ago i put 3 of those multi spectrum leds..the 13w floods into my cfl setup and the plants are doing great under them...im ordering 3 more and am going to continue my cfl grow with leds...the plants seem to love them in the veg stage.....
Nice one!!! keep it up!!!! I'm ordering more myself to go into my big box.
 

Killacrip

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looks like some good buds but dosen,t look like good yeald ogt any late pix with somithing near it so we can tell size?

Am lookin in to leds I knew these would be the growlights of the future once they got better technology their almost their with high power led others dont work to good

i onky use leds for vegging then out side for bubbing.
 

Damion5050

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do you guys have a link for where I can pick up some of those led panels ??? how many you think are needed for a 3x2x5 foot area
 
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