whats the best insomnia sleep strain you know about. for real medical problems

Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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kermit2692 said:
if kone is right then id go with maybe jtr?? has a 5% cbn test result(not that that holds true with every bean but u no)
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I really don't know, but that doesn't sound right to me. Isn't JTR heavily sativa dominant? I've never had it myself but isn't it jack herer x space queen? If so that'd be the exact opposite of a sleep aid.

IMO going with a strain like purple urkle, master kush, or bubble gum would be much better.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Dan Kone said:
I really don't know, but that doesn't sound right to me. Isn't JTR heavily sativa dominant? I've never had it myself but isn't it jack herer x space queen?
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Oppps. I was wrong. I looked it up and JTR, is not Jack Herer X space queen. It's Jack's Cleaner X space queen. But still heavily sativa dom.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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kermit2692 said:
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/424532-test-results.html ...my bad it was the thc v jack was high in not the cbn ...that link is where i found that info in the first place had to go back and look, its a link to quite a few tga strain test results incase anyone is interested
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Very nice. The Flav looks like an interesting strain. Not a lot of THC-V strains going around. The only other one I can think of is Durban Poison. I'm hoping my GSC contain THC-V since they are a durban cross.
 
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kermit2692

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ya ive noticed that i was thinking about growing the jack or a cross of it for that reason...hoping to try something with a nice all around profile
 
keepitcoastal

keepitcoastal

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wow thanks for all the responses and great info from dankone and everybody else.. i had a power outtage from 5:30 to 11been running my grows off the generator. im going to try and look for cbn strains and hopfully find a canatonic cut. and to people saying to let my plants to JUST mature longer just dont understand the severity of the problem , just to give an example when i went to do a sleep study at a major university they had to give me a double dose of ambian to get me to sleep. i feel like its more of a restless brain type thing. during the several sleep studys iv been through the doctors have recorded that my brain dose not enter REM sleep even when i am sleeping. i need a strain that can make my brain just stop thinking!!! i feel like from the time i go to bed to the time the sun comes up i cant sleep because my brain is just racing with thoughts
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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keepitcoastal said:
wow thanks for all the responses and great info from dankone and everybody else.. i had a power outtage from 5:30 to 11been running my grows off the generator. im going to try and look for cbn strains and hopfully find a canatonic cut. and to people saying to let my plants to JUST mature longer just dont understand the severity of the problem , just to give an example when i went to do a sleep study at a major university they had to give me a double dose of ambian to get me to sleep. i feel like its more of a restless brain type thing. during the several sleep studys iv been through the doctors have recorded that my brain dose not enter REM sleep even when i am sleeping. i need a strain that can make my brain just stop thinking!!! i feel like from the time i go to bed to the time the sun comes up i cant sleep because my brain is just racing with thoughts
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CBD + CBN. Cbd is strain related, cbn is how it's grown. If you're going to do a legit high CBD strain other than cannatonic, I'd go for concentrate form. Otherwise you'll be disappointed.
 
keepitcoastal

keepitcoastal

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Iv gone out my way to avoid a lot of those high Cbd strains just because iv smoked them and they don't seem to get me high really. But it sounds like I'll be looking for that cannatonic pheno you were talking about.

I see there are seeds of cannatonic online might get several packs and go on a massive pheno hunt and I'll take and label cuts of each then flower one of each and submit a nug of each to sc labs
 
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kermit2692

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keepitcoastal said:
wow thanks for all the responses and great info from dankone and everybody else.. i had a power outtage from 5:30 to 11been running my grows off the generator. im going to try and look for cbn strains and hopfully find a canatonic cut. and to people saying to let my plants to JUST mature longer just dont understand the severity of the problem , just to give an example when i went to do a sleep study at a major university they had to give me a double dose of ambian to get me to sleep. i feel like its more of a restless brain type thing. during the several sleep studys iv been through the doctors have recorded that my brain dose not enter REM sleep even when i am sleeping. i need a strain that can make my brain just stop thinking!!! i feel like from the time i go to bed to the time the sun comes up i cant sleep because my brain is just racing with thoughts
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i have the same problem but not quite as bad....i can be tired during the day then once i try to sleep BOOM i have to analyze everything over and over and over and then i start day dreaming and just thinking about everything its rediculous!! i usually only wind up stuck awake until like 4 tho then i sleep in....sucks!!...ill tell ya what helped me, getting a outside job where i busted my ass, like maybe a appliance repair man (not what i did but i dont wanna give away info on who i might be :D )....back when i had a 12 hour a day job man id get home and stay awake for a few hours and then out like a light after a couple bowls
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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kermit2692 said:
i have the same problem but not quite as bad....i can be tired during the day then once i try to sleep BOOM i have to analyze everything over and over and over and then i start day dreaming and just thinking about everything its rediculous!! i usually only wind up stuck awake until like 4 tho then i sleep in....sucks
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This is exact reason why I smoke bud. I can't turn off my brain when I attempt sleep. Without weed I can not sleep. I've quit smoking bud several times, most recently for about 2 years. The result was I could not sleep at all during the night and then walked around like a zombie all day.

So now I smoke every night before I go to sleep. It's the only time I smoke. I can't even handle smoking weed during the day time.
 
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kermit2692

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ya theirs actually a name for this some kind of restless mind syndrome or something...i live in one of the 33 non med states so sucks to be me but pot fixes it bottom line...kinda bs some meth head can get methadone perscribed but i cant have a plant
 
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midtownguy

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Sorry to weigh in late on all this good advice. I was a terrible sleeper, but now not so bad. Here's what I learned about cannabis and sleep.

THC is a stimulant. When THC breaks down, it breaks down into metabolites that make you sleepy. This why is you get sleepy a couple hours after smoking.

So never smoke a high-THC med right before bedtime. Try about an hour out from bedtime, instead.

CBD is not a insomniac's friend. That surprised me. But great for anxiety, which means it leaves you relaxed and awake.

Don't overmedicate for sleep with cannabis. Higher doses are only good for folks with night terrors or PTSD related sleep issues. Otherwise you'll wake up feeling thick, when you overmedicate.

Best varieties for sleep are linalool-heavy indicas like Lavender. Classic purps like Erkel and Grape Ape work well, too.
 
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weedmon5

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Certain sativas work for me. Sugar Punch, by Sannie, in parituclar. Because when I wake up and can't fall back asleep my mind is too active. The head high calms that down and I go back to sleep. Indicas just make me want to get up and do stuff.

Everyone's different so experimentation is good.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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midtownguy said:
CBD is not a insomniac's friend. That surprised me. But great for anxiety, which means it leaves you relaxed and awake.
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It's different for everyone, for a lot of people the body high/relaxation of cbd does help them sleep. But you are correct, it's not technically a sleep aid. CBN is the only actual sleep aid.
 
keepitcoastal

keepitcoastal

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I had tracked down cuts of cannatonic but they are out and don't seem to be getting more. I'll be picking up a platinum bubba kush cut in the mean time and I'll try that out because iv previously found it and regular bubba kush to be amazing for sleep. Anybody know of plat bubba is a faster grower or has at least a little stretch compared to regular bubba kush?
 
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midtownguy

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Personally, not a fan of CBN. I view it as a waste product, like delta-8.

Dan Kone said:
It's different for everyone, for a lot of people the body high/relaxation of cbd does help them sleep. But you are correct, it's not technically a sleep aid. CBN is the only actual sleep aid.
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