Don Gin and Ton
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mornin all! chilli festival and then Prometheus for me today. i'm getting high as i can for cinema thinking, canna cupcakes then a doob just before.
The UK Growers Thread!
- Thread starter lozac123
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newuserlol
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ya no i aint even got the strain anymore m8, i dont even really like smoking dope that much is just another addiction that i keep up lol just the exo n pyscho for me that i no i can chop on day 56 after a wks ripen.
i couldnt be fucked last night just said me piece n went, i aint got nuffing against unlucky i also dont really like the thought of keep digging online or not at a young very disillusioned girl, the same old arguments every night even puts my drunken self of the thread.
have a good day people, and don cheers for that rep m8 the other day. w dragon went n see that film ur going to see yday i fink??? pretty shore neway lol said it was good.
PUKKA BUD
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i know mate you was sayin you might get it back member? last time we was talkin about it.
went to see that friday in 3D fuckin not bad at all leaves it open as fuck tho.
PUKKA BUD
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Ya gunna have to pm me a sneak preview of these amazin "bud an boobs" pics love or it never happnd!?!?!? end of.
cheddar1985
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say exodus lmao!!Talking of Livers/Blues, some I chopped this morning.
And the DOG hedge.
I legally grow 5 plants, and illegaly grow a few others
Say Exodus.....
Peace, DST
Happenin boys?? gonna get rid of hangover just now hair of the dog so a few pint cans of stella it is while kids are in pool!! Gonna be another messy day i reckon rara fuckin rar!!
unlucky
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[QUOTE=newuserlol
i couldnt be fucked last night just said me piece n went, i aint got nuffing against unlucky i also dont really like the thought of keep digging online or not at a young very disillusioned girl, the same old arguments every night even puts my drunken self of the thread.
same as and if the ones who like to carry on with the name calling and other bull shit then i will too as simple as that
i couldnt be fucked last night just said me piece n went, i aint got nuffing against unlucky i also dont really like the thought of keep digging online or not at a young very disillusioned girl, the same old arguments every night even puts my drunken self of the thread.
same as and if the ones who like to carry on with the name calling and other bull shit then i will too as simple as that
unlucky
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it never happend so thats the end of that..........how easy was thatYa gunna have to pm me a sneak preview of these amazin "bud an boobs" pics love or it never happnd!?!?!? end of.
skindespliff
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uk laws
Live in the UK? Law change feb 2012 Hey everyone, I've been asking around and very few people actually noticed this BIG change in law durring feb this year. If you scroll down to the sentencing times you will see that there are now circumstances where jail-time is completely off the table. Particuarly if you have LESS than 8 plants, being grown in as 'unsophisticated' a manner as possible, with no signs of intent to sell or use for finnancial gain - you are almost in the clear.
Cultivation or Production of Cannabis
Date Produced: 14 February 2012
Title: Drugs
Offence: Cultivation or Production of Cannabis
Legislation: Section 6 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for cultivation, Section 4 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for production
Mode of Trial: Either Way
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 14 years
The definitive drugs guideline comes into place on 27 February 2012 and applies to all drug offences sentenced after that date.
The new guideline may cause an upward shift in the length of sentence for offenders being sentenced for Class B production/cultivation.
The route to sentence:-
Step 1
determine the offender's role; then the category of the offence.
The offenders role
Leading role Directing or organising production on a commercial scale; Substantial links to, and influence on, others in a chain; Expectation of substantial financial gain; Uses business as cover; Abuses a position of trust or responsibility.
Significant role Operation or management function within a chain; Involves others in the operation whether by pressure, influence, intimidation or reward; Motivated by financial or other advantage, whether or not operating alone; Some awareness and understanding of scale of operation.
Lesser role Performs a limited function under direction; Engaged by pressure, coercion, intimidation; Involvement through naivety/exploitation; No influence on those above in a chain; Very little, if any, awareness or understanding of the scale of operation; If own operation, solely for own use (considering reasonableness of account in all the circumstances).
The category of harm is determined by the output/potential output of the operation.
Category 1
an operation capable of producing industrial quantities for commercial use. E.g. a factory, farming size greenhouses or houses dedicated to the growing of cannabis. Look for 'gardeners exploited and trapped in the set up, and networked operation cultivating cannabis over various sites'.
Category 2
an operation capable of producing significant quantities for commercial use. It is easy to identify the smaller operations that fall into category 2; they will be a room or loft dedicated to the growing and drying of cannabis; more 'cottage industry' than 'factory.' What is not so easy is to distinguish top end category 2 from a category 1 case; the only difference between the 2 categories is category 1 is defined as the production of 'industrial' quantities as opposed to 'significant' quantities in category 2.
Category 3
28 plants with an assumed yield of 40g per plant.
Category 4
9 plant domestic operation.
It is worth noting that the guideline assumes a yield of 40g a plant. Up to now a plants yield has often been in issue; it may be that the guideline assumption of 40g a plant will become the standard projection in calculating a plants yield.
Category 1, 2 and 3 cases are likely to share some of the following features:- 1.sophisticated growing system 2.measures taken to conceal the operation; 3.plants well tended; 4.abstraction of electricity or electricity supplied by a generator; 5.look for discarded plant debris (significant amount of rotting stalks/vegetation indicates that there has been earlier growing cycles).
With bottom end category 2 growers and category 3 growers the question arises of what use is to be made of the cannabis. In mitigation the defence may provide a basis of plea which suggest that the offender is supplying to friends; the phrase 'social supply' is often used. Beware of the phrase 'social supply' (see R v. Auton, Hindle, Vincent and Willis [2011] EWCA Crim. 76) supply to friends is unlikely to be free, and supply makes the offence more serious; producers of cannabis are popular and have a lot of close friends when it comes to 'social supply.'
Step 2
sentencing range
Category 1
Leading role
Starting Point: 8 years
Category Range: 7-10
Significant role
Starting Point: 5 years 6 months
Category Range: 5-7
Lesser role
Starting Point: 3 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
Category 2
Leading role
Starting Point: 6 years
Category Range: 4yrs 6mnths-8 yrs
Significant role
Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 yrs 6 mnths-5yrs
Lesser role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
Category 3
Leading role
Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
Significant role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
Lesser role
Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: low level community order to 26 weeks
Category 4
Leading role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: High level community order-3 years
Significant role
Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: Medium level community order-26 weeks
Lesser role
Starting Point: Band C fine
Category Range: Discharge- Medium level community order
The sentencing starting point is adjusted up or down by a list of additional aggravating and mitigating factors set out in the guideline. Described as a non exhaustive list it may on occasion be appropriate to move outside the identified category range.
Aggravating Features Previous convictions Offence committed on bail Nature of any likely supply Use of premises accompanied by unlawful abstraction of electricity/other utilities Ongoing/large scale operation as evidenced by presence and nature of specialist equipment Exposure of others to more than unusual danger, for example drugs cut with harmful substances Attempts to conceal or dispose of evidence, where not charged separately Presence of others, especially children Presence of weapons where not charged separately High purity or high potential yield Failure to comply with current court orders Offence committed on licence Established evidence of community impact
Mitigating Features Involvement due to pressure, intimidation or coercion failing short of duress, except where already taken into account in step 1 Isolated incident Low purity No previous convictions or no relevant or recent convictions Offender's vulnerability was exploited Remorse Good character and or exemplary conduct Determination and/or demonstration of steps having been taken to address addiction or offending behaviour Serious medical conditions requiring urgent, intensive or long term treatment Age and/or lack of maturity where it affects the responsibility of the offender Mental disorder or learning disability Sole or primary carer of dependent relatives
Step 3 consider factors which indicate a reduction such as assistance to the prosecution
Step 4 reduction for guilty plea
Step 5 totality principle where sentencing for more than one offence or the offender is already serving.
Step 6 confiscation and ancillary orders; including POCA, forfeiture orders and destruction orders
Step 7 reasons/explanation for sentence
Step 8 consider time spent on remand in custody or bail.
Ancillary Orders
POCA
Forfeiture orders
Destruction Confiscation
Car used to travel to the location where the cannabis grown? The court has power to ban an offender from driving under section 146/147 Power of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000
Travel restriction orders. Judge's have a wide discretion which has to be exercised carefully and has to be proportional R v. Mee 2004 Crim L R 487 and section 33 CJ and Police Act 2001
Deportation changed 14 feb 2012 check out the guildelines
Live in the UK? Law change feb 2012 Hey everyone, I've been asking around and very few people actually noticed this BIG change in law durring feb this year. If you scroll down to the sentencing times you will see that there are now circumstances where jail-time is completely off the table. Particuarly if you have LESS than 8 plants, being grown in as 'unsophisticated' a manner as possible, with no signs of intent to sell or use for finnancial gain - you are almost in the clear.
Cultivation or Production of Cannabis
Date Produced: 14 February 2012
Title: Drugs
Offence: Cultivation or Production of Cannabis
Legislation: Section 6 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for cultivation, Section 4 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for production
Mode of Trial: Either Way
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 14 years
The definitive drugs guideline comes into place on 27 February 2012 and applies to all drug offences sentenced after that date.
The new guideline may cause an upward shift in the length of sentence for offenders being sentenced for Class B production/cultivation.
The route to sentence:-
Step 1
determine the offender's role; then the category of the offence.
The offenders role
Leading role Directing or organising production on a commercial scale; Substantial links to, and influence on, others in a chain; Expectation of substantial financial gain; Uses business as cover; Abuses a position of trust or responsibility.
Significant role Operation or management function within a chain; Involves others in the operation whether by pressure, influence, intimidation or reward; Motivated by financial or other advantage, whether or not operating alone; Some awareness and understanding of scale of operation.
Lesser role Performs a limited function under direction; Engaged by pressure, coercion, intimidation; Involvement through naivety/exploitation; No influence on those above in a chain; Very little, if any, awareness or understanding of the scale of operation; If own operation, solely for own use (considering reasonableness of account in all the circumstances).
The category of harm is determined by the output/potential output of the operation.
Category 1
an operation capable of producing industrial quantities for commercial use. E.g. a factory, farming size greenhouses or houses dedicated to the growing of cannabis. Look for 'gardeners exploited and trapped in the set up, and networked operation cultivating cannabis over various sites'.
Category 2
an operation capable of producing significant quantities for commercial use. It is easy to identify the smaller operations that fall into category 2; they will be a room or loft dedicated to the growing and drying of cannabis; more 'cottage industry' than 'factory.' What is not so easy is to distinguish top end category 2 from a category 1 case; the only difference between the 2 categories is category 1 is defined as the production of 'industrial' quantities as opposed to 'significant' quantities in category 2.
Category 3
28 plants with an assumed yield of 40g per plant.
Category 4
9 plant domestic operation.
It is worth noting that the guideline assumes a yield of 40g a plant. Up to now a plants yield has often been in issue; it may be that the guideline assumption of 40g a plant will become the standard projection in calculating a plants yield.
Category 1, 2 and 3 cases are likely to share some of the following features:- 1.sophisticated growing system 2.measures taken to conceal the operation; 3.plants well tended; 4.abstraction of electricity or electricity supplied by a generator; 5.look for discarded plant debris (significant amount of rotting stalks/vegetation indicates that there has been earlier growing cycles).
With bottom end category 2 growers and category 3 growers the question arises of what use is to be made of the cannabis. In mitigation the defence may provide a basis of plea which suggest that the offender is supplying to friends; the phrase 'social supply' is often used. Beware of the phrase 'social supply' (see R v. Auton, Hindle, Vincent and Willis [2011] EWCA Crim. 76) supply to friends is unlikely to be free, and supply makes the offence more serious; producers of cannabis are popular and have a lot of close friends when it comes to 'social supply.'
Step 2
sentencing range
Category 1
Leading role
Starting Point: 8 years
Category Range: 7-10
Significant role
Starting Point: 5 years 6 months
Category Range: 5-7
Lesser role
Starting Point: 3 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
Category 2
Leading role
Starting Point: 6 years
Category Range: 4yrs 6mnths-8 yrs
Significant role
Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 yrs 6 mnths-5yrs
Lesser role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
Category 3
Leading role
Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
Significant role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
Lesser role
Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: low level community order to 26 weeks
Category 4
Leading role
Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: High level community order-3 years
Significant role
Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: Medium level community order-26 weeks
Lesser role
Starting Point: Band C fine
Category Range: Discharge- Medium level community order
The sentencing starting point is adjusted up or down by a list of additional aggravating and mitigating factors set out in the guideline. Described as a non exhaustive list it may on occasion be appropriate to move outside the identified category range.
Aggravating Features Previous convictions Offence committed on bail Nature of any likely supply Use of premises accompanied by unlawful abstraction of electricity/other utilities Ongoing/large scale operation as evidenced by presence and nature of specialist equipment Exposure of others to more than unusual danger, for example drugs cut with harmful substances Attempts to conceal or dispose of evidence, where not charged separately Presence of others, especially children Presence of weapons where not charged separately High purity or high potential yield Failure to comply with current court orders Offence committed on licence Established evidence of community impact
Mitigating Features Involvement due to pressure, intimidation or coercion failing short of duress, except where already taken into account in step 1 Isolated incident Low purity No previous convictions or no relevant or recent convictions Offender's vulnerability was exploited Remorse Good character and or exemplary conduct Determination and/or demonstration of steps having been taken to address addiction or offending behaviour Serious medical conditions requiring urgent, intensive or long term treatment Age and/or lack of maturity where it affects the responsibility of the offender Mental disorder or learning disability Sole or primary carer of dependent relatives
Step 3 consider factors which indicate a reduction such as assistance to the prosecution
Step 4 reduction for guilty plea
Step 5 totality principle where sentencing for more than one offence or the offender is already serving.
Step 6 confiscation and ancillary orders; including POCA, forfeiture orders and destruction orders
Step 7 reasons/explanation for sentence
Step 8 consider time spent on remand in custody or bail.
Ancillary Orders
POCA
Forfeiture orders
Destruction Confiscation
Car used to travel to the location where the cannabis grown? The court has power to ban an offender from driving under section 146/147 Power of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000
Travel restriction orders. Judge's have a wide discretion which has to be exercised carefully and has to be proportional R v. Mee 2004 Crim L R 487 and section 33 CJ and Police Act 2001
Deportation changed 14 feb 2012 check out the guildelines
wtf u spitting out members locations for u useless TW@ i thought ud turned over a new leaf and was being more respctful?
well its usnday and ive got the local old man who walks dogs at 8am to go pik me parcel up fucked if im going for it ahahaha
im chilling watching sons of anarchy nrly finished season 1 watched ufc on fox last nite sum good fights,cant wait for ufc 148 silva vs sonning 2 yeeehhhaaaaa
hows u pukka bruv? nicely smashed? cant belive i didnt get mine and having to wait,,few more days cure tho innit lmao
mrt1980
Well-Known Member
unlucky you bring it all on yourself. i try talking to you tidy cos you havent done anything to me but your even doing my fucking head in now. you start shit with people on here and then claim your being bulied. you put big red letters on and think its won an argument but it just makes you look like a big kid that just found out how to change font size and colour. fucking grow up you want to. like sambo said if you dont like it here fuck off
to true bruv
unlucky
Well-Known Member
shut the fuck up you knobhead............there you just so you don't feel left out.......................
u silly SKET how are we the thick ones? u cant even feed your so called fucking plants, and taling about peircing plant stems AND WER THE THICK ONES???
LMO u sily fuktard now go sign up at mjsmokers its full of silly priks JUST LIKE YOU
unlucky
Well-Known Member
​lmfao in your face......did you set that site up and get done over on that too.........he he shitter
NOPE MJ SMOKERS FUK ALL TO DO WITH ME HAHA GET YER FACTS RITE,.,,,typical woman dont know shit,cant do shit,aint any good at shit,,bet u dont even do anal​lmfao in your face......did you set that site up and get done over on that too.........he he shitter