The argueing needs to stop

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Timmahh

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I concur, but house and senate bill that have/are formed under false interpretations are illegal per a Peoples Initiative, and the MSC Ruling.

You see, they have used the wrong interpretation. whether on purpose, accidently, or under false pretenses, to make changes they DEEM ok. But they are not ok, because the position they used to create them is wrong. That is the Only point that needs to be addressed atm.

and Until the Government and all Agencies there of, follow the Act as Passed and Interpreted by the People, not the Judicial, nor the Legislative, then any changes that are made, or attempted to be made or illegal and there for null and void. The MSC stood up and told EVERY Body in the Michigan Government, to Properly follow this Act, or there will be more consequences than are already happening, and coming in lieu of the MSC Ruling. Non of them good of the Pts nor the citizens of the state.

That is my line, It is a Good line to be on. Until the Act is being properly followed by all the levels of Government, AG's Office, the Judiciary, and Municipalities and all associated LEO agencies, how can any real Issue, not a "Perceived Issue formed from False Pretenses", be found, let alone solved.

Look I agree, there are a couple things of tweaking, but to totally dismantle it all of it, to limit those intended to be protected and helped from this act, for the sole reason of adding population to the state correctional system, is 100% the Opposite effect We the People Voted for, after the Benefits for Patients in the State.

If a Dr is giving recs for hangnail pain, then the State has the ability to punish the responsible party, in this scenario, the Dr... They are putting their Professional Name on the line by signing the Rec. IF it was done wrong, or not in good faith, then is the Dr not as responsible as the Patient?
Just as the Gov has improperly interpreted this law for their own agendas, as in this scenario, two wrongs do not make a right.

No one is above the law, not I, not you, and certainly not our government.

How can anyone say that is the wrong position to be on is just hard for me to fathom. And I cant accept it. To do so, would be akin to allowing the government to use illegal tactics to put you and I and others, Maybe our children next week, in jail because they dont like you. I ll oppose that all day long and twice on the sabbath.
 

bob harris

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Well, since your logic is so air tight...we all have nothing to fear. I mean..if they used the wrong meanings, than certainly none of the house bills will pass.

The legal eagle timmahh, has solved all.

At least he has changed the topic to an anti government rant...which is all he ever does.
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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i just hope they dont use you (moderator ) in the fight now the new rule is there anytime somone feels there loosing the argument or doesnt like the thread they can come on have a turrets moment and poof thread is locked.i think it would be the person not the thread that should be locked out just my 2 cents.
 

gladstoned

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i just hope they dont use you (moderator ) in the fight now the new rule is there anytime somone feels there loosing the argument or doesnt like the thread they can come on have a turrets moment and poof thread is locked.i think it would be the person not the thread that should be locked out just my 2 cents.
Your logic makes the most sense. Rollitup should just make a bob and timmahh thread for them to fight and let them call each other names and let them have at it. Then if they take that bullshit to another thread, just move their shit back to the cage match. If they get upset and start five more fight threads move every one of those fuckers back to cage match.

Two men walk into a thread......... (that's it, best man doesn't even need to come out!)
 

st0wandgrow

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wow that is incredible truly is, it is really amazing how one can treat another but in the end what does it say about you who only knows hurt... the world has always been filled with evil but nowadays its going to a whole new level because technology allows us so many gateways to be evil. Why is it so hard to be nice because you are filled with repressed emotions in turn you take it out on the world the only true peace is with God.

I am not even a christian man I dont go to church but I know that God is real and he is the only way to true happiness and eternal peace.

If there is a god, then I have to assume he created the marijuana plant ....

So my questions is: What type of fucked up game is god playing with us to give us this wonderful plant, and then not allow us to legally use it? God is either a real dick, or he has a warped sense of humor.
 

bob harris

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You dont use facts you use your personal opinions and you feel free to change words all the time as well as your stance on issues to fit your personal idea of the day Please do us all a favor and stop posting anything and everything. Anyone educated by you will end up in a prison cell for the best part of life. Please stop offering advice or help of any kind.
I'm with that....but the little commie needs a place to vent.
 

st0wandgrow

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well stow, man isnt god. and it is man that is inhibiting gods gift.
As the story goes, Timmah, god created us in his likeness, and created everything else as well. If he is truly an all knowing deity, he is in fact responsible for this, and I plan on holding his feet to the fire on this one.
 

bob harris

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As the story goes, Timmah, god created us in his likeness, and created everything else as well. If he is truly an all knowing deity, he is in fact responsible for this, and I plan on holding his feet to the fire on this one.
The bitch gave Adam an apple....changed all the rules....I NEVER take an apple from a woman..bad karma
 

bob harris

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If there is a god, then I have to assume he created the marijuana plant ....

So my questions is: What type of fucked up game is god playing with us to give us this wonderful plant, and then not allow us to legally use it? God is either a real dick, or he has a warped sense of humor.
He gave us licking frogs, cocoa plants, poppies, peyote and a host of other things too...Should they all be legal?

I mean, if your line is at "natural" than BHO, and OIls..well, they ain't any more "natural" than opium and cocaine.
 

st0wandgrow

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He gave us licking frogs, cocoa plants, poppies, peyote and a host of other things too...Should they all be legal?

I mean, if your line is at "natural" than BHO, and OIls..well, they ain't any more "natural" than opium and cocaine.
I'm really only poking fun with that post bob. I don't believe that a bearded man sits in the clouds and controls the world with a joystick.

But since you asked, yes, I think all of the above should be legal. IMO, it's no job of the government to tell me what I should eat, smoke, or drink .... or if 2 consenting adults of the same sex can get married. So long as I'm not causing harm to others through my actions, big brother doesn't need to hold my hand.
 

bob harris

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I'm really only poking fun with that post bob. I don't believe that a bearded man sits in the clouds and controls the world with a joystick.

But since you asked, yes, I think all of the above should be legal. IMO, it's no job of the government to tell me what I should eat, smoke, or drink .... or if 2 consenting adults of the same sex can get married. So long as I'm not causing harm to others through my actions, big brother doesn't need to hold my hand.
I agree to a point. It's just that they really are not controlling what you eat, smoke and drink. and same sex marriage is winning their battle, slow but sure.

What the government is trying to control, is what people grow, manufacture and sell to others. That, and taxes fromm the enterprise.

I know Timmah and others don't believe in taxes..I'd just like to know how they would build roads...or defend our country.

No government = he with the most guns wins.
 

st0wandgrow

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I agree to a point. It's just that they really are not controlling what you eat, smoke and drink. and same sex marriage is winning their battle, slow but sure.

What the government is trying to control, is what people grow, manufacture and sell to others. That, and taxes fromm the enterprise.

I know Timmah and others don't believe in taxes..I'd just like to know how they would build roads...or defend our country.

No government = he with the most guns wins.
I have no problems with taxes. It's a necessary function of a democracy.

But I disagree with you on the extent of gov't control. If they weren't controlling what we ingest, then everything you referenced (heroin, cocain, etc) would all be legal. I understand their motive, but the fact remains that big brother tells you what you can and cannot do with your own body every single day of your life whether you realize it or not.
 

FR33MASON

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He gave us licking frogs, cocoa plants, poppies, peyote and a host of other things too...Should they all be legal?

I mean, if your line is at "natural" than BHO, and OIls..well, they ain't any more "natural" than opium and cocaine.
Just curious, do you mean cocoa or coca? I really like chocolate so I could see that as a drug regardless.
 

bob harris

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I have no problems with taxes. It's a necessary function of a democracy.

But I disagree with you on the extent of gov't control. If they weren't controlling what we ingest, then everything you referenced (heroin, cocain, etc) would all be legal. I understand their motive, but the fact remains that big brother tells you what you can and cannot do with your own body every single day of your life whether you realize it or not.
So move to a country that does a better job...where would you go? Just asking...
 

Timmahh

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but before god created us in his likeness, he created all the earth, animals and all the plants. THEN he created man, but much of man has been corrupted by the self righteous, thus the reason they can not be godlike.

im right with ya on that Stow. the Issue is man has Choice to be godlike or not. many just choose the wrong path.
 

hic

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This fake world is too funny. I like communicating on this thing once in awhile but holly shit some of you actually live here? My advise is if you are one of the many with too much time on their hands you make yourself usefull and volenteer some time to the salvation army or something.

They treat it as if this is serious shit. Cancer is serious, A death in the family is serious, Your dog getting hit by a car is serious, Having a baby is serious but I have been to the ends of the earth and I can say RIU is not serious shit.

Pretty soon you will be appointing a president if you do not stop this nonsense. Point being you have kids with zits telling adults what they can and cant do? funny shit that would not fly in the real world.

I aint saying nothing except do not take this so serious kids. It is just something that amounts to nothing.
 

Timmahh

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I have no problem with Fair Taxation, its part of the way we get roads and such...

I Do have an issue with our incomes being illegally garnished without our consent.
I dont believe in taxes that take money from one group/agency, and give it to another.

See bob, you like to paint those like me as Anit Government, When I am actually just ANTI Government Control of individual Liberty and Freedom, and most of the tax structure today is illegal, and used to control people financially.

and its not just one part of government, its the entire structure that is setup to control you, but the real issue is those in the offices, not the offices themselves, though a large majority are not needed, therefore tax money to run them is not needed.
 
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