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DoobieBrother

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Hi, gen, some great looking plants you have in your garden!

The BMF pheno's I grew this time have a normal funky, spicy pine tree smell.
These ones have almost no pinks or reds in the calyxes, or any purple resins.
 

dr green dre

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Nice doobie,Bigbuddah and gen.. some frosty shots up in here.. Could do with some chem ,bmf or that grape gum right about now..
helped a couple guys do there thing and thought i'd be nice this week .. guess not but i'll ave some engineers dream in a few days .. Road bud until then.

peace.dre
 

spoad

Member
Well the plants have been under a 100w t5 for 16days but I'm not classing this as my veg time,when I put them under the HPs they were about 8 inches and really bushy,I was gonna give them another 3 weeks veg them flip them to flower,so I'd hazard a guess and say they would be about 22 inches by that time,I can't take plants out as they are really stout little things and it would be a waste of good plants,I have another 3 600w lights but I'm on a budget with buying Ac conditioners,just thinking if I should just add one more and work on getting temps down with oscillating fans and see how it goes,I'm aiming for around 3 zips a plant.
 

afrawfraw

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Well the plants have been under a 100w t5 for 16days but I'm not classing this as my veg time,when I put them under the HPs they were about 8 inches and really bushy,I was gonna give them another 3 weeks veg them flip them to flower,so I'd hazard a guess and say they would be about 22 inches by that time,I can't take plants out as they are really stout little things and it would be a waste of good plants,I have another 3 600w lights but I'm on a budget with buying Ac conditioners,just thinking if I should just add one more and work on getting temps down with oscillating fans and see how it goes,I'm aiming for around 3 zips a plant.
In that case, you will need to either side light or you will grow what I refer to as "Larf". "Larf" are flowers that grow in less than 15,000lm. You will notice stretching of the lower limbs, as well as undersized buds that are less potent. I'm not discouraging you at all, please understand.

As for heat, you can dissipate it in two ways. (1) Install an exhaust fan that matches the CFM of the grow room. Mated with a temp controller, heat will be drawn out and replaced with fresh air from your intake vent.
(2) Install an air conditioner. Because the room is sealed, you will need to amend the atmosphere with CO2. I suggest (1) as it is cheaper and supplies your plants with plenty of fresh air.

Also, make sure your light cycle is running at NIGHT. Electricity is cheaper, and your intake air temp will be 10-15 degrees cooler (F).
 

BigBuddahCheese

New Member
likes me some chem,can you tell me more about her?
that BMF,is killa doobie,whats her smells like?
Man I am like you have heard TONS of good about her but never tried or grown. I am excited, the smell is amazing, a bit tempermental on nutes but I think a bit more N in start and now are correcting issues. It likes to stretch and grow, so N is used up a lot. At least this pheno, and I have her babies coming up now and their babies and their babies.. lol. I will post my review here for ya, I already like the yield, smell, looks and growth so its a winner winner chicken dinner so far.

It is from Greenhouse Seeds their strain.
 

billcollector99

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In that case, you will need to either side light or you will grow what I refer to as "Larf". "Larf" are flowers that grow in less than 15,000lm. You will notice stretching of the lower limbs, as well as undersized buds that are less potent. I'm not discouraging you at all, please understand.
What about all the outdoor growers growing under less than 15000 lumens..

Why isnt their bud larfy?
 

afrawfraw

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Try 100,000 LUX or 100,000 lumens per square Metre.

If a pinhole piece of the sun was on earth, we couldn't get closer than 90 miles away!
 

afrawfraw

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Your answer would be correct if we didnt have clouds on a regular basis..
And the more cloud cover you have, the more Larf you'll find. Don't discredit all those sunny days! Plants take full advantage of all the light they receive. Those few sunny days are the Anti-Larf. <83
 

billcollector99

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Guess we are gonna have to agree to disagree.

Light meter readings in full sun come up around 7000-8000 lumens max...

This was done in colorado, a mile closer to the sun then most people at sea level.

On a cloudy day lumen readings drop to 2000 to 3000
 

whodatnation

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If a pinhole piece of the sun was on earth, we couldn't get closer than 90 miles away!
How is that possible? We create flames hotter than the sun and surly we dont have to be 90 miles away from them lol I guess im not getting it.

I still think the the square footage of your room needs to be factored in, spoad. was it mentioned already?







EDIT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux

10,000&#8211;25,000 luxFull daylight (not direct sun)[SUP][3][/SUP]
32,000&#8211;130,000 luxDirect sunlight


1,000 luxOvercast day;
 

afrawfraw

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Guess we are gonna have to agree to disagree.

Light meter readings in full sun come up around 7000-8000 lumens max...

This was done in colorado, a mile closer to the sun then most people at sea level.

On a cloudy day lumen readings drop to 2000 to 3000
In NW Oregon, I'm getting 45,000 right now, at 10:20am local time. Hmmmmmmm.

Full sun is almost 100,000lux when close to the earth. Cloudy days are 10,000-20,000lux.

I Highly question that experiment. I do understand that different regions of the earth have different light delivery. But I've seen 5,000lm to 10,000lm plants, and they're nothing to drool over, trust me. Are you a CFL grower? Not insulting, just asking. Most CFL growers I debate swear 10K is more than enough. -.-

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/sam/icets/basicp.htm

Please remember Lux vs Lumens. ;)
 

billcollector99

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Im talking about taking an actual light meter, going outside and taking a reading to see what that spot is recieveing as far a lumens.

I have flowered with CFL's, HPS, The sun, HPS- MH combo, and have vegged with a wide array and combination of lights.

Spectrum matters more than the amount of light you are throwing at a plant...

And i definitely Do Not believe in the theory that Bigger is Better.
 
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