I now know the real reason to kill off any hermies in the garden...

missnu

missnu

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I used to say just let them go cuz hey, smoke is smoke...but I was just taught a really important lesson by one of my plants...
I have one strain that makes like 4 hermie flowers on the lower nodes when you first flip it to flower...I am not sure what I do to this strain, but it seems to hermie pretty easy...I have never worried about it too much...just tossed the 8 resulting seeds and moved on...anyway I didn't pull off the hermie parts this time, and they set up a small case of bud rot...so I ended up having to take down the whole plant early before it could spread elsewhere...

So short story long a hermie nearly effed up this whole grow...the seed pods calyx things were also releasing the seeds, and then this little material is just hanging out inside the bud, also causing rot...

So for real toss hermies because they are botrytis factories...with all their little left behind dead material...I also have more plants in the tent than normal...so I am sure that helped....I don't see any other plants with it, so I really think it was the cast off seed casing and pollen sacks that did this girl in...at least I caught it early...
 
ru4r34l

ru4r34l

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missnu said:
I used to say just let them go cuz hey, smoke is smoke...but I was just taught a really important lesson by one of my plants...
I have one strain that makes like 4 hermie flowers on the lower nodes when you first flip it to flower...I am not sure what I do to this strain, but it seems to hermie pretty easy...I have never worried about it too much...just tossed the 8 resulting seeds and moved on...anyway I didn't pull off the hermie parts this time, and they set up a small case of bud rot...so I ended up having to take down the whole plant early before it could spread elsewhere...

So short story long a hermie nearly effed up this whole grow...the seed pods calyx things were also releasing the seeds, and then this little material is just hanging out inside the bud, also causing rot...

So for real toss hermies because they are botrytis factories...with all their little left behind dead material...I also have more plants in the tent than normal...so I am sure that helped....I don't see any other plants with it, so I really think it was the cast off seed casing and pollen sacks that did this girl in...at least I caught it early...
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It's not the hermies, but most likely a buildup of factors, a packed tent with high humidity is a good start.

regards,
 
missnu

missnu

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I have low humidity...and mildew mold, and rot have never been issues before...and I am the one that had to take the plant down and trim it all up and I can assure you that the rot originated at the seed casings that were dead, and the empty pollen pods...just like rot commonly starts with improper pruning of leaves...where you leave a leaf stem, that dies but doesn't fall from the plant...this plant material will start to rot and then it will spread all about...
 
Mr.Marijuana420

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missnu said:
why is that...? Has your experience taught you that dead plant material left on the plant doesn't cause rot?
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makes sense, dead leaves are known to cause rot, y wouldnt other dead plant matter that retains moisture cause rot. although my reason to remove herms is fear of them infecting my girls with pollen
 
missnu

missnu

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Well as I said I don't mind a few seeds...and this plant grows and smokes awesome, and smells great, and looks great...super frosty thick dense buds...and it only hermies in the very beginning of flower, and it only throws 3 or 4 pollen sacks...I usually pull them off but this time I got lazy and disaster struck...I literally got it when there was only one little spot that actually had any mold, so none was lost, except in the extra weight that could have been gained if the plant had been allowed to finish...I haven't even been checking the girls very well...I find they do better when I ignore them...I got lucky...I opened the tent to do a water check and one spot on a bud on the plant just looked a little too white...a little too fuzzy...so I poked it and for sure...mold...so I took apart the affected bud..there was a spot about the size of an eraser on one bud, and I found 2 empty seed casings right in the middle of the spot that were rotted and one pollen sack that was all fuzzy...so I easily assumed that the rot started with the seed casings, and hermie sacks...not to mention none of my other strains hermie and none of them caught the mold...I went back and made sure to prune the plants back, adn remove anything that looked less than useful or slightly dead was removed...I will pull every plant early before I get invaded by some effing fuzz trying to mess up everything...
 
blindbaby

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i swapped my areas long ago. now, the tent is the veg. the veg likes higher temp, and humidity. i too, have had hermies. an otherwise non herming plant, will herm, if its stressed enough. in my tent, even with veg, i have two 6" duct boosters i put in the ready made holes (perfect fit!) in the tent. one pushing in at bottom right, the other pushing out, on left front roof. also, a 6 inch fan inside, to make a bit more movement in the air. air movenment is not something mold likes. i feel small tents get way to stuffy for the girls. the only thing is, i could not go into my room "anytime", with the flower out in open. but wait.........green lights. problem solved!
 
drive

drive

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true question missnu is where did you get the original seeds this is where this genetic disaster started from
 
missnu

missnu

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The strain is DNA Genetics Rocklock...
As I said before it is an awesome plant..except for this early hermie issue I keep having...
Which the hermie isn't the issue...me leaving the hermie parts and seed casings in the plant created my mold issue...I guess it isn't very mold resistant either...and actually this particular plant is a Rocklock x LA Confidential...It looks smells and grows just like the Rocklock, with the same beginning hermie...it turns some nice colors as it gets farther though, and straight Rocklock does not..it stays totally green til the end every time...anyway, the Rocklock hermies, and so does the Rocklock LA Crosses I have made I guess...not too tore up about that...but the mold man, the mold...lol.

and I have lots of ventilation...in veg and flower...we have unusually low humidity in my area as well, so that makes a difference too...I need to clean out the tent really well when again there is nothing in it...

I just wanted to rewarn everyone about the dangers of leaving dead plant parts sticking to the plant...don't do it...it is a bad idea.
 
missnu

missnu

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use a 6 in booster fan going across my light, and also a 6 in booster fan to exhaust, and I have a 20" oscillating fan that blows everything about really well...I just didn't realize the issues a few discarded seed casings and spent hermie balls could do...
 
missnu

missnu

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I wonder if this plant would hermie in 12/12 from seed...there has to be something that makes it hermie...the first time I grew it, it didn't hermie, but everytime since it has...I am still going to hang on to it, because it has become one of my fave plants to grow...this just sux though...
 
drive

drive

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do you totally dissinfect your tent between grows mold comes from spores that germinate when conditions get right. maybe a little bleach will kill the spores before they find your buds
 
missnu

missnu

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yeah...once these plants are done I am going to clean it up really well before putting anything else in there...Just to make sure...because as I have said, I got super lucky this time...next time I probably won't be so lucky...I mean I literally lost less than a gram of what was affected...but I harvested the plant like 3 weeks early...so I actually lost a good bit I guess....either way, the other plants are all alright...I knew it smelled a little funny in there....the affected plant stinks anyway, so I wasn't alarmed by the "off" smell, but I probably should have been....
 
missnu

missnu

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Yeah never used a speck of bleach in the tent in 4 years...lol...just shop vac it out...mold is not a normal issue around these parts...
 
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