Jim Carrey knows wussup.

[tyler.durden]

wtf? Im gone for awhile and people start talking shit?

funny...

Hey, Oly! I wasn't talking shit, I was just pointing to the past to attempt to come up with something effective to help handle CWE. I just read in your response to Heis why I haven't seen you around, and I can certainly understand. I hope all is well with you, hope things with the university and/or your career are running smoothly...

 

[olylifter420]

Thanks TD...

Everything is going well, thanks for asking... Almost done with it, finally. looking forward to grad school next summer.

Hey, Oly! I wasn't talking shit, I was just pointing to the past to attempt to come up with something effective to help handle CWE. I just read in your response to Heis why I haven't seen you around, and I can certainly understand. I hope all is well with you, hope things with the university and/or your career are running smoothly...

 

[mindphuk]

wtf? DUde, i actually enjoyed our discussions on topics of evolution that I am very intrigued by... If you call standing up for what I believe in trolling, you are just as fucked up as chief whatever... and whats up with that picture? I do not know internet memes...

my so called "attacks" were not random "attacks"... I do not just sit there and watch people bash what me and others on here share as views. I will continue to stand up for my beliefs...

I should have known about your two faces man...

No, I didn't mean to imply your attacks were random but when you made them, mostly against sativahigh, you didn't pretend you were having a rational argument with him, you just called a spade a spade. Trolling was probably not a good choice of words but I was trying to distinguish you from trolling chief, trying to limit comparisons.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Clearly you do, every post you submit is in opposition to established science. IOW, you're a retard. Mad, not at all. Entertained at your stupidity, absolutely.



Yeeeeah... You're not religious...

How would you know if a being created this world it also created science? Where is your evidence for this?



What, pray tell, is outside this limited box of science? Enlighten me!

Nah, you mad, MP even noticed you snapped lol And believing that some being created this universe is being religious? Since when? I do believe the big bang is the most logical explanation for creation but a ball of hydrogen and helium (or w.e) doesnt just form out of nowhere, at one point there had to be absolutely nothing, nothing evolves into more nothing. And wheres proof that this being created science?... damn... let me think... OH YEAH! science EXISTS! lol what a stupid question. The last one is a stupid question as well, Im sure you can think of a few things that your absolutely against that makes you go back to you tiny confined box of reality that is science =).

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

The no life skeptics dwelling in the spirituality forum questioning every belief that doesnt comply with atheistic science are calling me the troll... OH the irony lol. Pads pointless dream is to live in a world full of atheists lol that says a lot about the intentions of you skeptics. Sure you could not give a fuck about what other people think, but wheres the fun in that when you can feel superior by questioning everything theists believe in? lol egotistic douchebags that always feel they have something to prove, what a miserable way to live.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

A world full of reasonable/logical athiests... hmmmm, i bet it would be paradise compared to the world we have right now... full of deluded theologians. We non believers have nothing to prove, as we have time and time again disproved your falacious type of thinking... which resulted merely from the invironment you grew up in, the culture... and especially how you are raised as a child, and from my perceptions, still a child. Attention seeking behaviors, i understand what kinds of adults breed this type of behavior, and i am very sad you must experience this torment. I only hope that someday you can get out on your own, and think for yourself.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

A world full of reasonable/logical athiests... hmmmm, i bet it would be paradise compared to the world we have right now... full of deluded theologians. We non believers have nothing to prove, as we have time and time again disproved your falacious type of thinking... which resulted merely from the invironment you grew up in, the culture... and especially how you are raised as a child, and from my perceptions, still a child. Attention seeking behaviors, i understand what kinds of adults breed this type of behavior, and i am very sad you must experience this torment. I only hope that someday you can get out on your own, and think for yourself.

Actually my parents arent religious or spiritualists at all, never once did they talk about "god" throughout my childhood. I asked my dad when I was 8 if he believed in "god" and he awkwardly said yes, awkwardly because he doesnt like talking about such things as I found out later. I only know my mom believes in "god" because she takes part in Native culture more than the rest of us but she never talks about the subject either. I grew up thinking for myself that there had to be a higher power because the big bang evolving from nothing just sounded stupid to me. Even then I didnt really care about the subject, only after I started listening to Joe Rogan two years ago and his guests and their deep insights on life I started exploring spirituality more. Then I experienced things that most would consider bat shit crazy and that elevated me further to the truth. Then I found myself here, thinking there would be more like minded people talking about spirituality, but I just found a bunch of trolls that dont like people viewing the world differently then they do so they feel compelled to tell theists whats what to inflate their ego and give their life meaning =).

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Taking others ideas and attempting to make them your own will do nothing but keep you further from your true self. Further and further from complete and utter honesty with oneself... although it is understandable to me, the fear of being completely honest with the self is too much for most. I think sadness is too much of a word, i think i feel more so sorry for the psychological battle one must constantly wage on oneself in order to hold onto beliefs.

The cool thing about ideas, is that they change all the time... and no one claims certainty to them, so no one gets offended when an idea is brought upon the scrutinies of questions and doubts.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

If you listened to those insights you would not call them wrong, hes not claiming any spiritual fact with them, hes pretty much explaining the world and how beautiful and how fucked up it is in his own insightful way. Expanding on those and applying them to spirituality is not lying to yourself, not in the way that saying lucid dreaming is nothing special is lying to yourself...

 

[Padawanbater2]

... believing that some being created this universe is being religious? Since when?

Since religion started.

I do believe the big bang is the most logical explanation for creation but a ball of hydrogen and helium (or w.e) doesnt just form out of nowhere

But an infinitely more complex god does, apparently.

It didn't form out of nowhere. It formed when Hydrogen and Helium atoms collected in the vacuum of space because of gravity and started a fusion reaction. Pretty simple and straightforward if you actually took the time to learn about it. People who have don't make ignorant claims like "it doesn't just form out of nowhere..."

And wheres proof that this being created science?... damn... let me think... OH YEAH! science EXISTS! lol what a stupid question.

OK, I say there was another god that came in and created science. His name was Ted. Ted the god. You know how I know?

... science exists.

The last one is a stupid question as well, Im sure you can think of a few things that your absolutely against that makes you go back to you tiny confined box of reality that is science =).

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egotistic douchebags that always feel they have something to prove

Yet you keep coming back for more. Who actualy has something to prove, hmm? As if you're fooling anyone.

I grew up thinking for myself that there had to be a higher power because the big bang evolving from nothing just sounded stupid to me.

Well shit, case closed! Forget about 400 years of scientific breakthroughs. Chief numb nuts concludes it's too confusing for his simple mind, so that must mean it's false. Is that a candid admission you're a virgin because you find sex confusing too?

Even then I didnt really care about the subject, only after I started listening to Joe Rogan two years ago and his guests and their deep insights on life I started exploring spirituality more. Then I experienced things that most would consider bat shit crazy and that elevated me further to the truth. Then I found myself here, thinking there would be more like minded people talking about spirituality, but I just found a bunch of trolls that dont like people viewing the world differently then they do so they feel compelled to tell theists whats what to inflate their ego and give their life meaning =).

lmao, I bet they tore you apart over at the Rogan board, didn't they? That's probably why you're here, only to find out this place is much more logical and less tolerant of bullshit.

Here, these are probably much more up your alley;

http://www.spiritboard.net/

http://www.openenlightenment.com/

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Since religion started.



But an infinitely more complex god does, apparently.

It didn't form out of nowhere. It formed when Hydrogen and Helium atoms collected in the vacuum of space because of gravity and started a fusion reaction. Pretty simple and straightforward if you actually took the time to learn about it. People who have don't make ignorant claims like "it doesn't just form out of nowhere..."



OK, I say there was another god that came in and created science. His name was Ted. Ted the god. You know how I know?

... science exists.



What is a better method of discerning reality than using consistent logic and reason?

Yet you keep coming back for more. Who actualy has something to prove, hmm? As if you're fooling anyone.



Well shit, case closed! Forget about 400 years of scientific breakthroughs. Chief numb nuts concludes it's too confusing for his simple mind, so that must mean it's false. Is that a candid admission you're a virgin because you find sex confusing too?



lmao, I bet they tore you apart over at the Rogan board, didn't they? That's probably why you're here, only to find out this place is much more logical and less tolerant of bullshit.

Here, these are probably much more up your alley;

http://www.spiritboard.net/

http://www.openenlightenment.com/

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/

This is the only place ever were I took part in forums and such, besides from the odd comment on a youtube video. Your oblivious of the point I was trying to make about "god" creating science (big surprise). And you fail to address that at one point there had to be absolutely nothing, no atoms floating around, completely nothing, nothing to help nothing to evolve into more nothing. Or was there always atoms floating around? By no means of creation, they just simply were always there? makes sense.

 

[Padawanbater2]

This is the only place ever were I took part in forums and such, besides from the odd comment on a youtube video. Your oblivious of the point I was trying to make about "god" creating science (big surprise). And you fail to address that at one point there had to be absolutely nothing, no atoms floating around, completely nothing, nothing to help nothing to evolve into more nothing. Or was there always atoms floating around? By no means of creation, they just simply were always there? makes sense.

Your point was "God created science because science exists" - obviously circular reasoning. I made an equally as ridiculous claim knowing you couldn't disprove it. Your point is exactly as strong as my point, and I know my point is completely made up and not worth shit, so what does that tell us about your point?

No obviously not, a god was always there, that makes a million times more sense.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Your point was "God created science because science exists" - obviously circular reasoning. I made an equally as ridiculous claim knowing you couldn't disprove it. Your point is exactly as strong as my point, and I know my point is completely made up and not worth shit, so what does that tell us about your point?

No obviously not, a god was always there, that makes a million times more sense.

your cured! that was easier than I thought =p

 

[Hepheastus420]

Someone not trollin, finally! lol Hes a genius, its hard to believe he was depressed at one point.

What I've noticed in my short 18 years of life is that people that become depressed usually become depressed because they stopped being so ignorant. Most "happy" people are ignorant as fuck IMO.. There are alot of people that bounce back from depression happier than they have been their entire lives. Because they faced the truth that they knew they were ignoring before and conquered it. They once believed the cup was full, they realized the cup was actually half empty, but they decided they liked it half full..

Eh I'm high IDK and IDC .

 

[Hepheastus420]

How do you multi-quote?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

What I've noticed in my short 18 years of life is that people that become depressed usually become depressed because they stopped being so ignorant. Most "happy" people are ignorant as fuck IMO.. There are alot of people that bounce back from depression happier than they have been their entire lives. Because they faced the truth that they knew they were ignoring before and conquered it. They once believed the cup was full, they realized the cup was actually half empty, but they decided they liked it half full..

Eh I'm high IDK and IDC .

I used to be depressed in my teenage years. Then I thought "Why the fuck am I thinking like this? What gets accomplished by thinking of this cry baby bullshit all the time?". Jim is absolutely right when saying thought is the cause of all suffering, happy thoughts, happy life.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I used to be depressed in my teenage years. Then I thought "Why the fuck am I thinking like this? What gets accomplished by thinking of this cry baby bullshit all the time?". Jim is absolutely right when saying thought is the cause of all suffering, happy thoughts, happy life.

Do emotions control thoughts or do thoughts control emotions? Excuse me if that's a stupid question, but I just never thought of it. Like before a fight you are filled with emotions and you can't really think logically (emotions over thoughts).. but If you think about the world's flaws, you become sad (thoughts controlling emotions).

I believe that during teen years, people are introduced into the real world which is fucked up. Over time though, you either become ignorant or you face the music. You said "why the fuck am I thinking this? What gets accomplished by thinking of this cry baby bullshit all the time" which means instead of actually thinking of the world in the negative way that it truly is, you pretty much said I just won't think about it.. which is ignorant.
Thinking does make you depressed, no not really, the truth makes you depressed. You can ignore it though.. hell I wish I was ignorant and still believed in religion.. well kinda.

And don't mix ignorant with stupidity.. many people get mad when you call them ignorant lol.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I find myself feeling really bad after pointing out the flaws in peoples' beliefs. I mean it will only take away their ignorance and send them spiraling into depression. Well unless they're mentally strong enough to handle the truth and still smile.. many people aren't that way though.

That's where my sig comes in, no matter how much you think or what you believe.. as long as you're happy, nothing else really matters.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

You have become wise beyond your years Hep, i don't think i have ever been more proud of anyone i have not officially been acquanted with. You are very strong, very couragous, and very wise my young friend. Don't ever give up the search, and don't ever stop trying to become a better part of yourself in every situation that presents itself to you in life. If you can do this, happiness will fallow you wherever you may go.

 

[Hepheastus420]

You have become wise beyond your years Hep, i don't think i have ever been more proud of anyone i have not officially been acquanted with. You are very strong, very couragous, and very wise my young friend. Don't ever give up the search, and don't ever stop trying to become a better part of yourself in every situation that presents itself to you in life. If you can do this, happiness will fallow you wherever you may go.

Thanks strife!!

Maybe so, but courage, strength, and wisdom (lol the tri-force...ahh just a zelda joke ) comes with a toll.
It's pretty weird.. Knowledge IS power, but you need a good amount of power to overcome the toll depression takes from you. Once you start your journey of wisdom, there really is no turning back. If you stop halfway, you will fail in life.. well not FAIL.. but you defininetely won't be a chirpy bird. It's like losing my religion. If I just gained the wisdom of there being no god (yeah yeah there's a possibility for everything.. not aimed at you strife) and just decided life is pointless without further gaining knowledge of the wonders of life, I probably wouldn't have any year old vodka sitting in my room anymore.. you know.. since I would have gone on a depressing alcohol binge.

It kinda hurt earlier when chief said that skeptics have sad lives (oh wait.. I'm not supposed to let him know he hurt my feelings).. It's not 100% true, but I do believe all skeptics go through depression since it's hard to take in life the way it truly is. So in a way, yeah skeptics usually tend to deal with more negative thoughts than most people, but we also have the ability and power to overcome anything.