Opium Poppies

kochab

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And what does salvia do? What are the effects?
salvia leaf gives you an uppity buzz kinda like coke to me...makes your body feel all light and shit....weird buzz to the head.

salvia extract will make better trips than acid when smoked and its a lot more tense to some people.
the extract is a lot more expensive....the salvia leaf I got in atl, ga headshop called starship (way neat place for a headshop) and it was $30 for a half ounce.
 

dannyking

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dont they sell many legal high's over in america. I live in Ireland and some of the stuff we buy in the headshops is CRAZY charleeze - they are actually made in ireland, Exotics - Whoa now your getting yourself into trouble with those. all sorts. Riddled with BZP of course. Anybody who wants to find out about legal highs should check out Ibogaine, kratom, lophophora williamsii, ayahuasca, salvia divinorum, trichocereus you can buy kratom, salvia, fly agaric by the kilo, coca plants and seeds, check it out!
 

doobie_brother

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ehh its not too strict if u grow it gets confiscated possible fine and an unlikely court summons its quite available usually u get low quality hash u can get some good stuf too though but its expensive 3.5 grams of bud is 50 euro.
 

adidas

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how is opium compared to morphine? i was getting just small doses of morphine in the hospital and I LOVED it.. will opium be a similar high? or would it be more intense?
 

adidas

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something funny happened today on a 35mile training ride i was riding home and caught a glanse of something familiar in a flower garden facing the street papaver.s of some kind. in a flower arangement in front of someones house litterally the same day i was discussing this on a forum that is just too funny to me. anyways so i hopped off my bike and pulled a screw that was in my back pack and proceded to scrape the pods(quckly obviously) i scraped a few and white milk like substance came out. this was on a public street so i grabbed a few and took them home and scraped again but i think they lost vascular pressure so i squeezed them and got a little to come out of maybe 20 closed pods of various sizes. i should have scrapped all while on the stem anyways i got at least what looks like 1 or 2 good hits clearly many would need to be grown to produce any respectable amount of opium i think this is why laws are vaugely enforced. anyways i took pics of the pods and small amount of opium i scraped i will post if anyone wants to see. i could also take a pic of the actual growing plants so everyone knows what to look for anyways this is hilarious to me because of timing:peace:

post the pics :mrgreen::peace:
 

Barrelhse

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if you look at pics from afghanistan and other places when freshly scraped it is like milk. it dries to dark brown black. the tiny bit i got ended up dark brown(i only dried it for a l;ittle while). i got barely anything off maybe 25 medium to small heads but i screwed it up some so ill make poppy straw tea when they dry. i did get 2 hits off of it in a pipe on top of some super skunk and did notice a mild relaxing buzz but more would be needed to really enjoy it i will go back in a few weeeks and take a look again and see how much they have grown and maybe take a pic there in a garden mixed with other floral arrangements, i wish you could extract just opiates from the tea because it tastes awful there has got to be a better way:spew:
I've made strong tea and cooked it down, filtered it, and let it evaporate in a glass dish. It made some tar, but it didn't seem especially potent. I'm thinking of slitting my pods a couple of times over a day or two,and leaving them for 2-3 days to ooze. When the latex is dry cut the pods and soak in water to dissolve the O, and evaporate that. I only have a couple of dozen plants this tear so I want to accumulate the whole harvest before using any. (My Whites have all shed their petals, Danish Flag are still in "cabbage" stage.) When I try testing here and there I never really have enough for a decent buzz, and then it's gone!
 

MetalSmelter

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Read over this thread awhile ago, and decided i'd try to grow a few. Never tried opium before, and read it takes 90 days to mature to harvest.....But i rarely and i mean rarely do any type of opiates, last i did was a half of a perc 10, and i was feeling great! so i figure i'll eventually try opium, if not once in my life, so what better way than to produce it myself, and reap the benefits of my own doings...

Found some mccormock poppy seeds in the spices section at walyworl and looked them up online.

McCormick Food Service Product Detail - Poppy Seeds

And it says its the somniferum strain.........something like $1.50 for what looks like 500 or some odd number......is it just that easy to find somniferum seeds, plant them, 90 days, harvest get goop, load pipe and smoke?

Any readings that you all know that i could look on, briefly read over the guide in erowid.

Also can they be grown under CFLs? I'll also add that upon opening them they were a blue color, ever very small, are these blue persians?
 
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bicycle racer

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i think the reason it is easy to get seeds is that you would have to grow fields of poppies to get alot of opium. but once you scrape the pods and the juice dries that is raw opium it can be refined further but i dont know how. i smoked it raw and it worked fine i just scraped off the dried goo with a knife. poppy pod tea also works well very well if made right but is fowl to drink. i will eventually try to grow some for fun i started some once before but moved it grows slowly and is delicate the leaves break easily they are very brittle and the roots are flimsy and have a weak hold in the soil this was indoors under hps so probably bad conditions i think they would do better under sunlight check out sundriedpoppies.com :peace:
 

adidas

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i will post some pics..i started a few just out of curiosity. they are about 2 weeks and they are sprouted
 
I currently have 37 plants hope to keep 10 fems, rid the males and give any remaining fem to a friend or something.. i can't bring myself to kill off any fems.
anyway, i have also started to grow some poppies out back, they are relativly easy to grow and are done in about 90 days. iwill be devoting a few for raw smoking opium and some to make opium hash when he plants are done. if anyone has any info or tips on making opium hash let me know. i'm sure i can figure a recipe by doing some expiremeting and gettin really high to see what combo works best.


Try taking the opium while its still liquid from the plant and Mixing Keif with it till it thickens up then let it dry out or maybe since Opium dissalves in water i can make Bubble hash with opium infused water lol
 

Big P

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!POPPY POD Extract Charges thrownout in COURT!!! NOT Guilty NOT Guilty lol lollol ha!
HAHA.


Heres the story.

A man, a real man I used to know used to make poppy pod extract by the butt load. He shared it with his friends, but was worried to no end. until his fears did come true. One of his homies gets popped with more than a few, grams of hardened poppy Pod goo

the grape vine let him know without hesitation, that his homey was under interrigation.


so without further adue, the man tossed away his stash of poppy goo, just incase they broke my poor homie's will, incase he told them where to find the maker of poppy pills.


as I should have known my homie told them no, so they charged him with some bullshit too, possetion of Herion with intent to distribute!!!!


but when it came time to test, the lab coat couldnt guess, what this goo could be, is it heroin or tea, is it opium or mixed, or is it just all three!!!!


when the day of court began, the judge threw up his hands, they threw the charges out!!!!!! not guilty the judge yelled out load. the coppers were so pissed they reduced the charges to: "Possesion of cannibus!!!"

but the lawer told them no, my client had no grow, had no weed or even roach. he said "what are we even here for???"


My homie is ok not guilty is what they say. I guess the coppers cannot see, that its just some poppy tea, evaportated, & dried. the war on drugs has lost another TRIAL!!!!!! lololololl hAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




this is a true story. Stay thirsty my Friends
 

badmojo420

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Opium to me is a totally different thing. Smoking a bowl of opium will make me just wanna lay there for a long ass time and not do anything. The best way i can really describe it is like the worst couch lock in the world from weed, while still giving me enough mental clarity to where I can still function if I choose to.
heroin on the other hand, takes over your every thought, and is the fuel behind half of your actions. Meaning once you are hooked on it, thats all you wanna do. And once you have run out, youll be doing just about anything you can for money so you can acquire more.
While I was on heroin I couldent really sit still. Like EVER....no matter how bad i needed or wanted to.

I know a lot of old reformed smack addicts that a bowl of opium would drive them screaming back to put heroin up their nose or in their arms but for some reason with me it takes the urge to do heroin away. I can sit there and be as mellow as the day i was born, and it never makes me crave any more opiates.
For some reason I still get withdrawals and i have stopped using heroin 4 years ago. I dont know if i will ever stop.....some days I wake up and out of nowhere I think "damn i could use some shit" it dosent even necessarily have to be a bad day. I generally try to ignore it but sometimes its just too damn bad. On one of those bad feeling days if i sit back and smoke a bowl of opium, or even just enough for it to get in my system, I stop feeling that way.
all in all I suppose Ive replaced the addiction with a means to deal with the way my body deals with not having heroin


hope this helps you understand it a bit more.
Opium is not the evil drug that heroin is for some reason. Maybe its just because its been left alone the way god intended/created it to be. It hasnt been reformed 3-4 times from different substances to get to that evil point.

codeine on the other hand does give me problems when i take too much of it, and it seems that all these faggot doctors out there nowa days wanna give that shit out like candy
umm isnt that the exact same thing heroin does to you? ive seen ex junkies clean for 5 years take one rip of opium and they are back out banging dope. opium is serious shit and just as addictive as heroin or oxycontin is, saying otherwise is just well... retarded. thats like being a drunk that only drinks wine and thinks he/she is not an alcoholic because they arent drinking hard alcohol.

read up about what opium did to china, india, afphanistan, pakistan, iraq.... opium is worse than heroin because so many people think smoking opium a couple times a week is NON ADDICTIVE. stay away from opium if you value your well being and sanity cuz youll lose all of it just as quick as doing heroin and most people are addicted without even knowing it...
 

badmojo420

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!POPPY POD Extract Charges thrownout in COURT!!! NOT Guilty NOT Guilty lol lollol ha!
HAHA.


Heres the story.

A man, a real man I used to know used to make poppy pod extract by the butt load. He shared it with his friends, but was worried to no end. until his fears did come true. One of his homies gets popped with more than a few, grams of hardened poppy Pod goo

the grape vine let him know without hesitation, that his homey was under interrigation.


so without further adue, the man tossed away his stash of poppy goo, just incase they broke my poor homie's will, incase he told them where to find the maker of poppy pills.


as I should have known my homie told them no, so they charged him with some bullshit too, possetion of Herion with intent to distribute!!!!


but when it came time to test, the lab coat couldnt guess, what this goo could be, is it heroin or tea, is it opium or mixed, or is it just all three!!!!


when the day of court began, the judge threw up his hands, they threw the charges out!!!!!! not guilty the judge yelled out load. the coppers were so pissed they reduced the charges to: "Possesion of cannibus!!!"

but the lawer told them no, my client had no grow, had no weed or even roach. he said "what are we even here for???"


My homie is ok not guilty is what they say. I guess the coppers cannot see, that its just some poppy tea, evaportated, & dried. the war on drugs has lost another TRIAL!!!!!! lololololl hAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




this is a true story. Stay thirsty my Friends


doubt this is true, (at least if it happened in the US) opium tests positive for opiates just like any other opiate. anytime an authority finds a dark pressed residue (be it opium, heroin, or hash) first thing they think is OPIATE.

ive been busted with a small hand pipe that i smoked opium out of, less than a gram, tested positive for opiates, charged with possession of heroin, plea bargained down to paraphernalia charge. if the judge threw your friends case out how can the police lower the charge to possession of marijuana? your story if full of holes friend.... Lab techs dont need to "guess" what a substance is, they have machines that can tell you exactly what is in what they are testing, how pure it is, etc....
 

RyanTheRhino

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Hey Kochab I have a pretty damn good idea of what you went through. Unfortunatly I am currently addicted to opiates ( Oxyconton is my opiate of choice). At first I just took it to calm me down because I used to have real bad Social Anxiety and it really helped. But one night i was ride home and it hit me that I was an addict. You never see it coming before its to late to stop using. Opiate addiction is like being in a cage, it keeps you from doing the things you love and most of all traveling (which I love) unless you have enough to last. And the worst thing is the withdrawls. Its like having the worst flu in the world, your entire body hurts and you're never comfortable ever until you can get a fix. I have found a natural plant extract that is 100% legal and works wonderfull for any opiate withdrawls and its called Kratom. The strong extracts come in a powder form which you mix in a liquid of your choice and drink it. It feels like true opiate pills and allows me to function rather normally without opiates. As well as giving me that nice calm feeling. So anyone thinking of trying opium or opiates beware of the dangers of addiction. I'm just trying to give others the proper warning about the killer withdrawl symtoms of addiction. So try to keep your use to a minimum and youll be fine. Just dont let it take over youre life like I did. Peace to all and Happy token

Then you get headaches so bad that your say hey lets take a painkiller. You assume the painkiller got rid of your headache but really you just fed your withdraw. It can be hard to tell when you addicted
 

Big P

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doubt this is true, (at least if it happened in the US) opium tests positive for opiates just like any other opiate. anytime an authority finds a dark pressed residue (be it opium, heroin, or hash) first thing they think is OPIATE.

ive been busted with a small hand pipe that i smoked opium out of, less than a gram, tested positive for opiates, charged with possession of heroin, plea bargained down to paraphernalia charge. if the judge threw your friends case out how can the police lower the charge to possession of marijuana? your story if full of holes friend.... Lab techs dont need to "guess" what a substance is, they have machines that can tell you exactly what is in what they are testing, how pure it is, etc....
truth is stranger than fiction my friend. Im not one to come on here and lie I have an extensive record on this website for years with huge rep. if you did not plea bargin and got a lawyer your charges may have been dismissed too but what he got caught with was not opium but poppy pod tea extract which is different.


he was caught with an extract. made by grinding many many pods to dust and cooking them at under boiling temps for 2 hours then the mix was strained and restrained and put in large dishes to evaportate, then the process was done again with the once rinsed poppy pod grinds. the second batch was mixed with the first batch. a space heater is used to speed up evaporation and dry it out before the the mix begins to spoil wich takes a few days.

trust me ive had it spoiled before and the resulting extract littery smells like feces. it will stink up your whole kitchen if you allow it to spoil before it dries. but even then we were so addicted to it that we ate it anyways. we endearingly called it doodoo lol it was nasty but the method was perfected so we didnt have to eat "doodoo" anymore and it was learned how to heat it enough to dry it before spoiling but still not too hot to destroy the morphine in it.

the result is hard crumbly poppy tea extract that is not really smokable its not pure enough. but u swallow it or desolve it in hot water and drink and its just like drinking opium tea. this a fact. I could post up the mug shot but obviously I cant reveal any info like that. it was in the UNited states. happend this year. good luck.


the extract he had was a bit weaker than my taste would like, thats why it was given away to him. it would take me about 16 grams of it to get supa high with my high tolerence but my buddy only needed 3 grams to get blasted off it.

its weird but they recuded the charge to simple possesion. Why would I make that up? anyway, in the end what is, is and what isnt isnt. lol yes im podded up right now. time to go drink the rest of it before the feds come :D
 

badmojo420

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truth is stranger than fiction my friend. Im not one to come on here and lie I have an extensive record on this website for years with huge rep. if you did not plea bargin and got a lawyer your charges may have been dismissed too but what he got caught with was not opium but poppy pod tea extract which is different.


he was caught with an extract. made by grinding many many pods to dust and cooking them at under boiling temps for 2 hours then the mix was strained and restrained and put in large dishes to evaportate, then the process was done again with the once rinsed poppy pod grinds. the second batch was mixed with the first batch. a space heater is used to speed up evaporation and dry it out before the the mix begins to spoil wich takes a few days.

trust me ive had it spoiled before and the resulting extract littery smells like feces. it will stink up your whole kitchen if you allow it to spoil before it dries. but even then we were so addicted to it that we ate it anyways. we endearingly called it doodoo lol it was nasty but the method was perfected so we didnt have to eat "doodoo" anymore and it was learned how to heat it enough to dry it before spoiling but still not too hot to destroy the morphine in it.

the result is hard crumbly poppy tea extract that is not really smokable its not pure enough. but u swallow it or desolve it in hot water and drink and its just like drinking opium tea. this a fact. I could post up the mug shot but obviously I cant reveal any info like that. it was in the UNited states. happend this year. good luck.


the extract he had was a bit weaker than my taste would like, thats why it was given away to him. it would take me about 16 grams of it to get supa high with my high tolerence but my buddy only needed 3 grams to get blasted off it.

its weird but they recuded the charge to simple possesion. Why would I make that up? anyway, in the end what is, is and what isnt isnt. lol yes im podded up right now. time to go drink the rest of it before the feds come :D

im not particularly calling you a liar, your story just has holes. if the judge threw the case out then you friend cant be charged again for that same thing be it a heavier or smaller charge. what you explain, to me sounds like tar opium that you let dry out too much... because ive smoked opium extract using a similar method you describe (minus the drying, its sticky and oily like warm full melt hash). Also, I had a lawyer because I was looking at 2+ years mandatory because of priors years earlier. My lawyer advised me to request a jury trial in the circuit court which I did. The judge took one look at whatever he was looking at and plea bargained me down to simple possession of paraphernalia and sent me on my way with unsupervised probation..

Whatever it was that your friend had (tea extract tar redrock whatever) was an opiate and would have tested positive for it, so either one of two things happened, your friend distorted the truth to you, or a lab tech stole the evidence for themselves (have had that happen to me before too). The thing about these lab tests is they dont have a threshold dose required to show a positive result like a urine test does. urine tests threshold at around 2,000ng/mL for opiates where as a lab test might pick up trace amounts as small as 10ng/mL.

Like I said, not trying to call you out as a liar, not my intention... just interested in this because what you say goes against all of my court experience.

Peace
 
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