Why is greenhouse seeds so crap

[Rezin]

I'm on my 4th grow and have had a very high germination rate in the past.
I am growing kannibias dr Jekyll(5-5 germination) serious jack herrer (5-5 germination) and greenhouse SLH (2-5 germination. Out of the 2 that germinated one of the plants is the biggest in
my room but the other one is barely hanging on. All 10 of the other plants are doing very good. How is it possible a company as big as greenhouse has such crappy genetics. I will never be buying greenhouse again.

 

[TheChosenOne]

i had great germination rates with my GHS super lemon haze, but 2 plants out of 3 hermied, and even the 3rd one had deformed leaves such as some having only 3 leafs and some were 5 leaf, and even just 2 leafs, it was weird so ill not be buying their genetics again.

 

[Vindicated]

I like GHSC seeds. I think the genetics are great. If you follow them on Strain Hunters you can also learn a lot about how they get their seeds. Usually from native farmers in Africa, Spain, and India and a few breeders through out the the UK. They also use machines to sort the seeds which I thought was pretty cool. Remember, growing out a dozen seeds doesn't really tell you much. I've got bad batches from Cali Connection, DinaFem, Nirvana, and a dozen other breeders, but never did I thought to blame the breeders. Its just seeds and sometimes you get bad ones. Sucks? Yes. But better get used to it. This is gardening after all.

If you want consistent results every time better start learning how to cook meth.

 

[Tony Sativa]

Other than the hawaiian snow I have not been happy with what I got from them in the past. Didn't like about 5 other strain and they won't get anymore cash from me. All seemed to be knock off's or watered down strains of the originals. Never had any germ problems and plants looked okay when growing but the taste and punch wasn't even close to other breeders like Mr Nice,TGA,DNA,Bog,Mosca and Ace seeds. Way more hype than quality and anyone can buy some cup trophy's with the right marketing team,

 

[zildgin]

I have ordered from lots of seeds companys GHS is just as good as any out there. Just because you had a bad experiance with a few beans doesnt mean anything. I have had 8 out of ten seeds fail from a top ten breeder b4. Buy a pack of tomato seeds and see how many duds you get. Greenhouse is no diff. I have had some dank from them and some crap. Just like every other seed company I have orderd from.

 

[BigeoffTidwell]

They suck because they dont care about you they care about your money all there good genetics left when shanti an neville did. They would rather spend their money on coloring seedd than getting better genetics

 

[racerboy71]

They suck because they dont care about you they care about your money all there good genetics left when shanti an neville did. They would rather spend their money on coloring seedd than getting better genetics

lol, i like this answer.. but the real answer is pretty much that the king of cannabis, mr arjan, isn't a breeder, never was, never will be... greenhouse really made their name back in the 90s when they had ace breeder shanti, also part owner of the co at the time, breeding all of their gear..
things went south, and shanti left and sold arjan his part of the co, and then took his mother stock and went over to mr nice seeds with neville shoenbaucher or w/e his last name is..
mr nice now has all of the genetics for the cannabis cup winning strains such as white widow, now called black wiow, and a few others that gave greenhouse the name they have...
arjan is more of a salesman, and a damn good one at that, but far far from the breeder who tries to sound like he is..
they are more concerned with dropping near gear every other month then quality.. it can take years to create and stabilize one strain, yet ghsc manage to drop more new gear then pretty much any other co. out there.. that right there should send up big red flags.. it takes time to create quality cannabis strains..
look at say simon and serious seeds.. they have maybe 5 or 6 strains out.. but they are all top notch, quality that has been worked and stabilized very well.. they are more concerned over putting out a few very good strains instead of tons of bunk.

yah, greenhouse may have won the cc a few times in the last few years, but don't think that amounts to a hill of beans about the quality of their product.. they may have had on distinct pheno of super lemon haze that was super bomb.. the thing is, you might have to crack 100 beans to find that one pheno, and the rest of them are no where near as good.. that's not such a great image imo.

there are much better breeders and seed co.s out there.. many of them are small time, but again, they concern themselves with a couple of strains that are straight up fire, work those lines to create stable hybrids, then release them to the public..

 

[BigeoffTidwell]

lol, i like this answer.. but the real answer is pretty much that the king of cannabis, mr arjan, isn't a breeder, never was, never will be... greenhouse really made their name back in the 90s when they had ace breeder shanti, also part owner of the co at the time, breeding all of their gear..
things went south, and shanti left and sold arjan his part of the co, and then took his mother stock and went over to mr nice seeds with neville shoenbaucher or w/e his last name is..
mr nice now has all of the genetics for the cannabis cup winning strains such as white widow, now called black wiow, and a few others that gave greenhouse the name they have...
arjan is more of a salesman, and a damn good one at that, but far far from the breeder who tries to sound like he is..
they are more concerned with dropping near gear every other month then quality.. it can take years to create and stabilize one strain, yet ghsc manage to drop more new gear then pretty much any other co. out there.. that right there should send up big red flags.. it takes time to create quality cannabis strains..
look at say simon and serious seeds.. they have maybe 5 or 6 strains out.. but they are all top notch, quality that has been worked and stabilized very well.. they are more concerned over putting out a few very good strains instead of tons of bunk.

yah, greenhouse may have won the cc a few times in the last few years, but don't think that amounts to a hill of beans about the quality of their product.. they may have had on distinct pheno of super lemon haze that was super bomb.. the thing is, you might have to crack 100 beans to find that one pheno, and the rest of them are no where near as good.. that's not such a great image imo.

there are much better breeders and seed co.s out there.. many of them are small time, but again, they concern themselves with a couple of strains that are straight up fire, work those lines to create stable hybrids, then release them to the public..

Couldnt have said it better, if your a arjan jock rider spend your money on iffu seeds. Theres plenty of other real breeders who have the same strains but much more potent. Thats just my opinion.

 

[nattybongo]

All the n00bs get hooked on GHSC bcos there everywhere. You watch a few videos on youtube about them looking for strains in another country, there grow videos (which you should take with a pinch a salt since some plants in the videos are from cuttings). So there's alot of shit plasterd in your face and I guess it's easy for n00bs to choose them because the have a multi-coloured sparkle fem seed-line.
I fell for it and my kalashnikova went hermie, but i'm not realy going to hate the company from what was realy 50/50 my fault + shit genetics. I just now know that from research you can find alot of stuff about breeders. I didn't have a clue and i'm guessing n00bs won't know about Shantibaba and the past. The more you read on here the GHSC is 50/50. People hate them and it works for others. Fair play. I just think that there is better breeders out there with amazing product that i'm happy to use my money & time on.

 

[Mrs. Rare Dankness]

Smart Man.

They suck because they dont care about you they care about your money all there good genetics left when shanti an neville did. They would rather spend their money on coloring seedd than getting better genetics

 

[Ravenchild]

I keep readin real breeders if they haven't retired who are they tga with shit ratios
Cali conn males poppin out of female or dna/reserv herms to like every other expensive
Top so called breeders and its a money thing not everyone no matter how great genetics are
Why buy a towel from dillards when u can get one from walmart might not the softest but gets the job done
And for this reason ghs/walmart will always be around plus hate all u want but a lot of the market is movin
To fem seeds as a lot of people don't hav space to time to pick and pull

 

[Roobarb]

I've only tried GH seeds once, Jack Herer
Won't be buying again. I expected a sativa leaning
hybrid. What I got was definitely more indica with
broad leaves. The end product was ok......only ok
Would be interested to know which breeder does
the best JH. Sorry to go off topic

 

[cdub5]

In my experience, greenhouse seeds are prolly a 5.5/10. Im growing their kings kush and exodus cheese right now. One out of the five kings kush was a full blown hermie, and one more of the five never cracked. The other three are fantastic plants though and now since I dont have to sift through hermies and dead beans anymore, I will have my favorite pheno from each of these strains for a while. I wouldnt choose to go through the trouble of buying from GHS again though, I learned my lesson. All in all wasnt a complete waste by anymeans though.

 

[bluntmassa1]

sensi seeds was the original breeder for jack herrer I almost got it from green house cause its a lot cheaper
but sensi has the true jack herrer so I think its probally better and its not even the same genetics as green house
its like they made their own cross and stole the name for marketing

 

[cdub5]

I've only tried GH seeds once, Jack Herer
Won't be buying again. I expected a sativa leaning
hybrid. What I got was definitely more indica with
broad leaves. The end product was ok......only ok
Would be interested to know which breeder does
the best JH. Sorry to go off topic

sensi seeds i beleive?

 

[JCashman]

lol, i like this answer.. but the real answer is pretty much that the king of cannabis, mr arjan, isn't a breeder, never was, never will be... greenhouse really made their name back in the 90s when they had ace breeder shanti, also part owner of the co at the time, breeding all of their gear..
things went south, and shanti left and sold arjan his part of the co, and then took his mother stock and went over to mr nice seeds with neville shoenbaucher or w/e his last name is..
mr nice now has all of the genetics for the cannabis cup winning strains such as white widow, now called black wiow, and a few others that gave greenhouse the name they have...
arjan is more of a salesman, and a damn good one at that, but far far from the breeder who tries to sound like he is..
they are more concerned with dropping near gear every other month then quality.. it can take years to create and stabilize one strain, yet ghsc manage to drop more new gear then pretty much any other co. out there.. that right there should send up big red flags.. it takes time to create quality cannabis strains..
look at say simon and serious seeds.. they have maybe 5 or 6 strains out.. but they are all top notch, quality that has been worked and stabilized very well.. they are more concerned over putting out a few very good strains instead of tons of bunk.

yah, greenhouse may have won the cc a few times in the last few years, but don't think that amounts to a hill of beans about the quality of their product.. they may have had on distinct pheno of super lemon haze that was super bomb.. the thing is, you might have to crack 100 beans to find that one pheno, and the rest of them are no where near as good.. that's not such a great image imo.

there are much better breeders and seed co.s out there.. many of them are small time, but again, they concern themselves with a couple of strains that are straight up fire, work those lines to create stable hybrids, then release them to the public..

/applaud
well said sir, couldnt have said it better myself. although i feel i should mention that if you need a bobble-head, a grinder, or an ashtray, then GHSC is for you

 

[JCashman]

I keep readin real breeders if they haven't retired who are they tga with shit ratios
Cali conn males poppin out of female or dna/reserv herms to like every other expensive
Top so called breeders and its a money thing not everyone no matter how great genetics are
Why buy a towel from dillards when u can get one from walmart might not the softest but gets the job done
And for this reason ghs/walmart will always be around plus hate all u want but a lot of the market is movin
To fem seeds as a lot of people don't hav space to time to pick and pull

try Bodhi, try Gage Green. they are both awesome

i personally havent tried Rare Dankness yet, but i've recently heard great things about their genetics

 

[racerboy71]

I keep readin real breeders if they haven't retired who are they tga with shit ratios
Cali conn males poppin out of female or dna/reserv herms to like every other expensive
Top so called breeders and its a money thing not everyone no matter how great genetics are
Why buy a towel from dillards when u can get one from walmart might not the softest but gets the job done
And for this reason ghs/walmart will always be around plus hate all u want but a lot of the market is movin
To fem seeds as a lot of people don't hav space to time to pick and pull

i'm not a big fan of subcool nor his work personally, but if you want some straight up fire that's legit, check out some people like gage green, bodhi, sure fire, kos, cannaventure, karma genetics, top shelf seeds, outlaw genetics... i could go on and on really..

 

[BigeoffTidwell]

sensi seeds was the original breeder for jack herrer I almost got it from green house cause its a lot cheaper
but sensi has the true jack herrer so I think its probally better and its not even the same genetics as green house
its like they made their own cross and stole the name for marketing

Because thats what king arjam does uses his marketing tactics to persuade people to buy things that may have name, but are watered.down versions of the original. All the good mothers of ghs like ww an ssh left with shanti. Now their waterd down offspring remains with ghs, im not an expert here but i think id rather spend my money with a breeder and not a marketer.

 

[racerboy71]

Because thats what king arjam does uses his marketing tactics to persuade people to buy things that may have name, but are watered.down versions of the original. All the good mothers of ghs like ww an ssh left with shanti. Now their waterd down offspring remains with ghs, im not an expert here but i think id rather spend my money with a breeder and not a marketer.

and not only that, some of them are popular strains by name only.. look at what they are calling bubba kush.. that shit is not even close to being a bubba kush.. fucking bubble gum x kush?? that's so not even close to what the real bubba kush is, it's fucked up..
it's a sin when newb's see the name and have heard of bubba kush or jack herer or white widow and think they are getting the real things when they buy it from greenhouse..
i will say however it's not only greenhouse that does this anymore.. how many co.s put out a strain called white widow?? and how many of them do you really think have the same parent plants that shanti made the og ww with?? not a one would be my guess, yet they all have strains called the same name.. rather confusing if you don't know what's the dillio.