wide plants?

[keefbox420]

View attachment 2163294 i dug about 2 feet down and 5 wide i ustd plywood as you see in the pic to make 5 individual sections which are
2ftdeepx2ftlongx4ftwide

i am hoping the 5 ak48s iv planted will grow wide instead of tall since the roots will be able to stretch much wider that deep.
i may scrog them depending on how tall they get

im going to put screen on all sides of the greenhouse to support the nugs when they get big..and grow out the sides

and advice or knowledge of the ak48 strain will be koo

 

[Faldikar]

if you want them bushy rather than tall you will want to start fim'ing while they are small.

 

[obijohn]

Wideness is in part genetic, but you have to train the plants. Fimming or topping is one way, I prefer lst, you can shape and control them as they grow

 

[trichomedome]

Wideness is in part genetic, but you have to train the plants. Fimming or topping is one way, I prefer lst, you can shape and control them as they grow

+1.........

 

[keefbox420]

i have them tied down im going to fim the ones i havent topped to compare yield
in past experiments i have done regarding root growth compared to pot size showed
the way the roots grow directly relates to the way the plant will grow regardless of genetics ...dont get me wrong i know they play a big part but so does root structure

thats why i made the holes the way i did but they are still deep...so i will use the techniques mentioned and see what happens

 

[Matthew Rapley]

i have them tied down im going to fim the ones i havent topped to compare yield
in past experiments i have done regarding root growth compared to pot size showed
the way the roots grow directly relates to the way the plant will grow regardless of genetics ...dont get me wrong i know they play a big part but so does root structure

thats why i made the holes the way i did but they are still deep...so i will use the techniques mentioned and see what happens

Wrong

Based on that logic, how would you expect a plant to grow if the roots were allowed to grow unrestricted horizontally but only a few inches vertically - would the plants grow like a dinner plate?

 

[keefbox420]

Experiment:
2 plants in 20 gal containers
one a vertical pot long and skinny
the other a grow bag folded in half to make in short and wide
2xclones same mother mystery seed
#1 grew like a spear slight side branching but for the most part vertical branching
#2 grew like a y...the main stem branched off into 2 bigger branches with smaller ones shooting off them

they grew just as the pots looked

 

[keefbox420]

i just have never done this in the ground so not to sure if the roots will just grow where they want instead of where i designed them to lol

 

[Matthew Rapley]

Well fuck me, after all your extensive research you must be right - wow, you grew 2 whole plants and arrived at such a conclusion.

 

[keefbox420]

lol you must be a idiot ....yes they would grow like dinner plate lol assuming a few inches is even enough soil to keep light off the roots......i have grown the plant in question about 20 times so i know how it behaves so yes 2 would suffice just fine in this case.....ask around you newbie about roots why the fuck dont people just use 1gpots if root growth means nothing a plant can only grow as big as the roots are to support it taller roots taller plant wider roots wider plant ...i will say it again 2plants in the same size pot but different dimensions cause different root growth/different plant structure

 

[keefbox420]

the whole reason i even was curious about this is i read a article in high times about space limitations...and a way to keep your plants short in limited space is wider pots among other techniques

 

[keefbox420]

Wrong

Based on that logic, how would you expect a plant to grow if the roots were allowed to grow unrestricted horizontally but only a few inches vertically - would the plants grow like a dinner plate?

why even ask if you think you know the answer

 

[Faldikar]

the reason for the wider pots is to give the roots a place to go, so youre not dealing with the height restriction of a taller pot. a plant with a wide pot vs tall pot with same volume will have very similar growth. once the girls start growing they will need to be trained to fit within the space you have availeble.

 

[keefbox420]

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[drive]

nice looking garden

 

[scroglodyte]

like a bonsai pot.........maybe

 

[scroglodyte]

i'd pull up those OSB dividers. they're leaching nasty stuff into your soil.

 

[NnthStTrls]

^ I agree. They're kind of pointless as well.

Also wanted to say that your argument about root structure is wrong. The shape of the root structure does not effect the overall shape of the plant, but it can effect the overall health.

What you need to realize is that ganja roots don't exactly go deep underground. Same goes for trees. I'm sure you've seen a tree that has fallen with the roots coming up. 100 foot tall tree and the roots aren't more than 2 or 3 feet deep. That's because there isn't as much oxygen and there aren't as many nutrients. The natural composting that nature does is only feeding those great organic nutes to a certain depth. After that you've got them both being consumed by plants, bugs, and micro organisms, but you've also got the filtering effect of passing through the soil.

I would venture to guess that the reason the plant in the wider pot grew wider is because it grew healthier by having access to more horizontal root growth while the other didn't bush out as much because it couldn't stretch it's roots the way that would have provided it the best growth. Of course....it could just have been different phenotypes.

Anyways, nice looking setup.

 

[scroglodyte]

constant pruning and training, in veg, keeps them small. turn them in shrubs.

 

[scroglodyte]

the tap root on a tree us usually as deep, as the tree is tall. most.....not all. when a tree blows over, the tap root has snapped, and we don't see it.