affirmative action's end?

[UncleBuck]

"No quotas" in action:

"One notable example is a case argued a few years back in the Supreme Court concerning admissions to the University of Michigan. The school had a policy of rating potential applicants on a point system. Being a minority student earned you more than twice as many points as achieving a perfect SAT score. Three white students sued citing this as raced-based discrimination. School officials said that diversity is desirable and affirmative action is the only way to achieve true diversity. Another notable case in 2009 involved firefighters whose captain's exams were thrown out after it was determined not enough minorities passed. Several other cases involving affirmative action have followed similar arguments."

that's why quotas are illegal, baby einstein.

or, as you might say, affirmative action = quotas.

LOL!

 

[desert dude]

that's why quotas are illegal, baby einstein.

or, as you might say, affirmative action = quotas.

LOL!

And yet, these cases had to go all the way to the US Supreme Court to be struck down.

Maybe you can explain how "goals" and "quotas" are different. If a university doesn't meet its "goal", do they just shrug their shoulders and say, "oh well, we tried".

 

[UncleBuck]

And yet, these cases had to go all the way to the US Supreme Court to be struck down.

Maybe you can explain how "goals" and "quotas" are different. If a university doesn't meet its "goal", do they just shrug their shoulders and say, "oh well, we tried".

a goal is not mandated, a quota is.

my goodness, did you drink a bottle of whiskey in the midday sun? you're normally not this mentally deficient.

 

[desert dude]

Goals that MUST be met sound an awful lot like quotas to me.

"HUD's female and minority hiring goals are encouraged by the EEOC's policies and practices. In particular, EEOC Management Directive 714, promulgated in 1987, requires that executive departments and independent agencies in the federal government produce an "affirmative employment plan for minorities and women" and hold their managers responsible for achieving the plan's objectives.

According to HUD's AEP and related documents, all managers are instructed to "refer to the AEP Plan goals and objectives before initiating [employment] actions." The managers are "held accountable for utilizing every hiring, promotion, reassignment and employee development opportunity for meeting the Department's [race and gender-based] goals." Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

http://www.cir-usa.org/cases/worth_v_martinez.html

 

[RyanTheRhino]

#3 on the list of definitions of "Quota"

3.) The number or percentage of persons of a specified kind permitted to enroll in a college, join a club,immigrate to a country,etc.



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quota​

 

[UncleBuck]

Goals that MUST be met sound an awful lot like quotas to me.

"HUD's female and minority hiring goals are encouraged by the EEOC's policies and practices. In particular, EEOC Management Directive 714, promulgated in 1987, requires that executive departments and independent agencies in the federal government produce an "affirmative employment plan for minorities and women" and hold their managers responsible for achieving the plan's objectives.

According to HUD's AEP and related documents, all managers are instructed to "refer to the AEP Plan goals and objectives before initiating [employment] actions." The managers are "held accountable for utilizing every hiring, promotion, reassignment and employee development opportunity for meeting the Department's [race and gender-based] goals." Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

http://www.cir-usa.org/cases/worth_v_martinez.html

where does it say they must meet the goal? sounds like they must TRY to meet the goals, but nowhere does it say they MUST meet the goal or else.

you were caught in your own misunderstanding, now you're grasping at whatever straws you can. i am drinking coca cola out of a two litter bottle while comforting my dog who just got back from getting his balls chopped off and laughing at you.

 

[desert dude]

where does it say they must meet the goal? sounds like they must TRY to meet the goals, but nowhere does it say they MUST meet the goal or else.

you were caught in your own misunderstanding, now you're grasping at whatever straws you can. i am drinking coca cola out of a two litter bottle while comforting my dog who just got back from getting his balls chopped off and laughing at you.

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Which is why we have policies in place that try to level the playing field. Refusing to hire/promote/give raises based on skin color or ethnicity rather than job performance is illegal. As it should be. Just like the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and how it helps women get equal pay. Regardless of how you feel, there is still plenty of discrimination and bias out there (just look at the political section) and these laws are needed.

Go home, racist.

 

[Carne Seca]

where does it say they must meet the goal? sounds like they must TRY to meet the goals, but nowhere does it say they MUST meet the goal or else.

you were caught in your own misunderstanding, now you're grasping at whatever straws you can. i am drinking coca cola out of a two litter bottle while comforting my dog who just got back from getting his balls chopped off and laughing at you.

So that's how coca-cola reproduces. In litters!

Go home, racist.

Suck dick, homo.

 

[InCognition]

Hey uncle buck,

Until your last post people were disagreeing with one another without being disrespectful. Why do you feel the need to attack a person with opposing views? "stupid" or not.

Rage mode

 

[UncleBuck]

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

yeah, notice how it says "take the necessary actions" to achieve the goal, not to actually achieve the goal. if they take all the necessary actions but don't achieve the goal, it doesn't apply.

affirmative action, how does that work?

LOL!

 

[UncleBuck]

Rage mode

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i'd be in rage mode if i spent about 4 months to produce 3-5 grams of bud.

 

[DelSlow]

i'd be in rage mode if i spent about 4 months to produce 3-5 grams of bud.

Ouch, I felt that one.

 

[desert dude]

where does it say they must meet the goal? sounds like they must TRY to meet the goals, but nowhere does it say they MUST meet the goal or else.

you were caught in your own misunderstanding, now you're grasping at whatever straws you can. i am drinking coca cola out of a two litter bottle while comforting my dog who just got back from getting his balls chopped off and laughing at you.

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

 

[UncleBuck]

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

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Reading, how does it work?

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Reading, how does it work?

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Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

" Any HUD manager who fails "to take the necessary actions to ensure that [these] goals and objectives are achieved" receives an unacceptable rating in his performance appraisal, which may result in reassignment, grade reduction or removal."

Reading, how does it work?

here, let me help you out by posting the same fucking thing again.

do you see how the point is to make sure the right process is followed, and the person would be punished not for failing to meet a goal, but for failing to try to reach the goal by not following the right process?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Suck dick, homo.

Regardless of how you feel, racist laws perpetuate racism. Not only are you racist, but a self-hating bigot too. Racism is racism, even if it's politically correct or is supposed to have good intentions.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Unclebuck has bad ass ctrl-v skills, which quite ironically is how affirmative action works. Too bad he's not black or mexican. He could've got a full ride to MIT doing that.

 

[Bayou bud]

he started a thread about affirmative action and he doesn't even know how it works.

you want me to give him a blowjob instead or something?

i'm not attacking him for having an opposing view, i'm calling him out as what he is. quotas aren't even legal.

Listen man, if you sucking his dick will make you feel better for being a cyber bully to him... Go ahead man. I don't judge bro blow away.

 

[Carne Seca]

Regardless of how you feel, racist laws perpetuate racism. Not only are you racist, but a self-hating bigot too. Racism is racism, even if it's politically correct or is supposed to have good intentions.

The only racism going on is the sludge sloshing around in your head. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[NoDrama]

If affirmative action was designed to limit discrimination then why do we still have discrimination? I don't think AA is working to tell you the truth.