Please Help, Beginning of 3rd Weed Veg

JASON79

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I will be flushing montanachadly, they will have about 30 - 40l's put through each pot but don't unjustify Jason on that he is still a good grower.
30 - 40l's put through each pot sounds good
i use 15ltr pots and start the flush with 15ltrs per pot and 4-5 day's later put another 15ltrs though and that works for me
 

Matchbox

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So does the clear water not need to be PHed? Please check out my new forum! :)
not really for a flush.. and I'll tell you why lol because PH only affects nutrient uptake i.e certain PH for certain elements, seeing as your not feeding and so long as your water isn't at the extremes of acidic or alkaline so between 5.8 and 7.2 it wont be too acidic or alkaline to damage the roots and well as I said there are no nutrients to uptake so it doesn't matter as much. My tap water comes out at 7 - 7.2 and works fine for a flush doing no harm to the plants what so ever, and my last smoke has burnt into a nice white ash which (aparantly) means its flushed well lol :)
 

Elliesdaddy

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Oh also i don't want to flush for longer than i have to, any indications of when i should start flushing rather than starting to flush at the beginning of week7 and end up having to flush for 3 weeks?
 

JASON79

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hey ellies daddy i posted about flushing last week i think that you should do it with 3 x the amt of water your pot can hold. After i posted this some guy comes in and tells you its overkill this guy jason79 or something dont listen to him flush is crucial you could go to anyone with big time reps and someone that knows what there doing there gonna tell you the same thing i did. jason i dont know how his smoke taste but if you want that coneseur quality you gotta flush. it also when you flush moves oxygen to the roots something they need. I had someone tell me that i didnt need to flush cause i was using small pots and it wouldnt make a difference. well it did make a diff they smoke tasted like shit and this was with a proper cure. the smoke also burned with a crackle and the ashes all black and oily thats how you can tell an unflushed product you want your ashes to turn white and all burn up not that black sooty shit like jason probably has i cant stand people giving bunk advice it puts me in a bad mood. especially with someone thats new to the growing.
I had someone tell me that i didnt need to flush cause i was using small pots and it wouldnt make a difference. well it did make a diff they smoke tasted like shit and this was with a proper cure

that was bad advice you were given and if somebody told me that i would probably feel the same way,
when i flush, i have all way used 2x the water to soil
so first flush i would use the same amount of water to soil and 4-5 day's later i use ph water 2-3 time
over the last couple of years i have had lots of mates ask if i could get any weed, maybe sell total of 2 oz's a grow, pay electric and help towards bulbs and any upgrades
and gives me a good feed back on what overs think
they all say its good. and all way want more
but i mainly do this for my self, do not want to be smoking wet weed with glass in at 10 pound a gram so i keep all but 2 oz's




and alway said its from a mate
 

JASON79

Active Member
not really for a flush.. and I'll tell you why lol because PH only affects nutrient uptake i.e certain PH for certain elements, seeing as your not feeding and so long as your water isn't at the extremes of acidic or alkaline so between 5.8 and 7.2 it wont be too acidic or alkaline to damage the roots and well as I said there are no nutrients to uptake so it doesn't matter as much. My tap water comes out at 7 - 7.2 and works fine for a flush doing no harm to the plants what so ever, and my last smoke has burnt into a nice white ash which (aparantly) means its flushed well lol :)
yes you are right,there no nutrients uptake, but this is the time my buds fill out and i have all way thought that a large amount of ice cold tap water disturbing the roots , chlorinate in the water and ph off, could this stress the plants and slow down the buds filling out and the final yield?
ok may be this is right way to flush but not for me
 

JASON79

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Oh also i don't want to flush for longer than i have to, any indications of when i should start flushing rather than starting to flush at the beginning of week7 and end up having to flush for 3 weeks?
when you see some of the hairs turning brown on the buds and check the trichomes with pocket scope, if half the trichomes has turned cloudy its good to start flushing that plant
 

Elliesdaddy

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Okay mate, anyone know any guides on the ranks on rollitup? been on this one for ages! i think i skipped a few when i made the threads about the new court guidelines but i cannot seem to get off this one although i have only been +repped a few times but it would be nice to get off this rank too something higher
 

Matchbox

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yes you are right,there no nutrients uptake, but this is the time my buds fill out and i have all way thought that a large amount of ice cold tap water disturbing the roots , chlorinate in the water and ph off, could this stress the plants and slow down the buds filling out and the final yield?
ok may be this is right way to flush but not for me
well my tap water doesn't come out ice cold through the hosepipe on a sunny day (when we actually get one lol) and in the shower head I can make it luke warm, plant's don't absorb chlorine or any of the shit the water boards put in and 90% of the time the chemicals they add are in liquid form and not salt based sooooo don't build up too much (which is why limescale takes a while to form over a good few months)

Okay mate, anyone know any guides on the ranks on rollitup? been on this one for ages! i think i skipped a few when i made the threads about the new court guidelines but i cannot seem to get off this one although i have only been +repped a few times but it would be nice to get off this rank too something higher
you'll just have to deal with it lol it's based on +rep and just takes time to accumulate by being helpful and hope for some rep if your useful... and you can only rep once you've repped a bunch of other people and every few days I think, so you can't create an account to spam it. And in all honesty what does it matter what rank you are, so long as I'm helping others and or being helped and they say thanks I'm happy.
 

JASON79

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well my tap water doesn't come out ice cold through the hosepipe on a sunny day (when we actually get one lol) and in the shower head I can make it luke warm, plant's don't absorb chlorine or any of the shit the water boards put in and 90% of the time the chemicals they add are in liquid form and not salt based sooooo don't build up too much (which is why limescale takes a while to form over a good few months)
you'll just have to deal with it lol it's based on +rep and just takes time to accumulate by being helpful and hope for some rep if your useful... and you can only rep once you've repped a bunch of other people and every few days I think, so you can't create an account to spam it. And in all honesty what does it matter what rank you are, so long as I'm helping others and or being helped and they say thanks I'm happy.

my tap water is 7.5
and the bathroom is 2 floors down
i live in well built up area and so
i can not let the smell get out the grow room
 

Elliesdaddy

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https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/522789-buddhas-tree-pk-9-18-a.html Could you guys check out this thread please i'd like to get it some more views

Just tried taking pictures and it's not worth it, i'll try my best to get a decent camera i promise! :(

They are looking amazing, the pure AK is the best thc pouring out of the buds onto the sugar leaf, the buds on the pure AK are smaller it's a lankier less leafier plant but obviously the most potent and it's buds are starting to look like buds, it has a node coming from right at the bottle of the plant practically touching the coco and it reaches up to almost the head of the plant and another node which is nearly as big as that one, this plant has alot more heads than the others.

The other two are practically identical, with nice heads on them but the buds look less developed but there not too far behind,

Room stats:
Humidity:
Lights on: 40 - 42%
Lights off: 45 - 52%
Temperature
Lights on: 26 - 29degrees
Lights off: 18 - 22degrees (depending on weather the window is open and the weather)

Should i cut off leaves if they are above the tops of nodes blocking the light to the buds? I want to cause the minimal amount of stress possible
But i will stress if it's going to help :)
 

JASON79

Active Member
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/522789-buddhas-tree-pk-9-18-a.html Could you guys check out this thread please i'd like to get it some more views

Just tried taking pictures and it's not worth it, i'll try my best to get a decent camera i promise! :(

They are looking amazing, the pure AK is the best thc pouring out of the buds onto the sugar leaf, the buds on the pure AK are smaller it's a lankier less leafier plant but obviously the most potent and it's buds are starting to look like buds, it has a node coming from right at the bottle of the plant practically touching the coco and it reaches up to almost the head of the plant and another node which is nearly as big as that one, this plant has alot more heads than the others.

The other two are practically identical, with nice heads on them but the buds look less developed but there not too far behind,

Room stats:
Humidity:
Lights on: 40 - 42%
Lights off: 45 - 52%
Temperature
Lights on: 26 - 29degrees
Lights off: 18 - 22degrees (depending on weather the window is open and the weather)

Should i cut off leaves if they are above the tops of nodes blocking the light to the buds? I want to cause the minimal amount of stress possible
But i will stress if it's going to help :)
if you have a lot of yellow leaves i would remove them in one go
any green leaves covering the buds try to move them if you can or cut half the leave off as this will not stress the plant as much as cutting the leave off
try to leave all green leaves on that you can as this is the plants food when you flush.
week 7-8 you will see a lot of leaves turn yellow
 

Matchbox

Well-Known Member
Should i cut off leaves if they are above the tops of nodes blocking the light to the buds? I want to cause the minimal amount of stress possible
But i will stress if it's going to help :)
Buds don't need light, it's the leaves that need light that feed the buds :) yes go through and take off any manky leaves but if there's any green ones 'blocking' light just leave them or re-position them. Leaves are semi transparent so, though you can't see it, the light energy still goes through them to the leaves below and with your, 600w? you'll get enough penetration to be able to not disturb anything.

and the rest of that stuff jason just said XD

healthy fan leaves are key to good buds whenever possible do not remove them unless they are dying or wilting etc.
 

Elliesdaddy

Active Member
Okay lad's, got a good friend coming to stay either tomorrow or thursday and have a smoke, pictures will be available even if they will only be in 2mp, he might have a camera though well see
 

Elliesdaddy

Active Member
I have room to use gardening string to move nodes further out, this will create a wider collection of light and cover less of the bud mass and also help lower leaves to also get light but tops of colas all apart from the main cola will be further away from the light? which way do you all believe would be better for these last 3 odd weeks?

If to use string to bush out the plant, What to attach to strings to use as a counterweight to hold branches down a bit but not too far to the point where they will be risking snapping/stressing the branches?
 
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