trayvan martin

[UncleBuck]

If he had turned to return to his truck as he states, he satisfied that condition. I still disagree with the assumption he was the aggressor, following him to ask him his business is far from aggressive, not to mention perfectly legal. I will concede there are many scenarios that would lead to his conviction, but as the sole survivor and the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, his story is going to be hard to overcome. And the prosecution is off to an awful start if they don't have some bombshell evidence we don't know about.

you can personally disagree with the term "aggressor", but in the letter of the law that is exactly what he is. it doesn't necessarily mean he was aggressive, it just means he initiated, which he clearly did by profiling and then following martin, by his own admission on recorded tape.

 

[UncleBuck]

and yes, i believe there is some damning evidence waiting in the wings.

there could be other reasons why serino's initial suggestion for manslaughter was elevated to murder 2 after a more thorough examination of the facts and evidence, but i imagine there is going to be something in the autopsy or elsewhere that is damning.

just want your opinion on how suspicious it is for wolfinger to have left his house late on a sunday to meet with the now resigned police chief in person, only to later step down to "avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest". something rotten in denmark?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

and yes, i believe there is some damning evidence waiting in the wings.

there could be other reasons why serino's initial suggestion for manslaughter was elevated to murder 2 after a more thorough examination of the facts and evidence, but i imagine there is going to be something in the autopsy or elsewhere that is damning.

just want your opinion on how suspicious it is for wolfinger to have left his house late on a sunday to meet with the now resigned police chief in person, only to later step down to "avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest". something rotten in denmark?

I honestly haven't seen much about it. Maybe there was some collusion, I wish I had friends in high places.

 

[UncleBuck]

...progressive scumbags like yourself....

hey, be nice even though he's not.

and a lot of us progressive scumbags have some pretty good weed.

 

[UncleBuck]

I honestly haven't seen much about it. Maybe there was some collusion, I wish I had friends in high places.

fair enough, some people call me a conspiracy theorist for even speculating on the possibility of collusion.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

hey, be nice even though he's not.

and a lot of us progressive scumbags have some pretty good weed.

Yeah, sorry for that. I don't react well to someone telling me to leave my country.

 

[NoDrama]

hey stupid read the bill of rights again it say liberty and justice for all

not harras and profile for all

you fucking tard

you "i can do whatever i want" people are ruining this once great nation . . . . . . . .get out!!! we dont take kindly to your kind around here

FUCKING TARD. OMG that is ironic, you just assigned the source of "liberty and justice for all" to the Bill of rights. That is in the 'pledge of allegiance'. The bill of rights isn't even a Bill, its just the first 10 amendments that the framers wanted to make sure the Government would be duty bound to never infringe on certain rights. It isn't a list of your rights, it is not an assignment of rights and nowhere is it a rule book on what you can or can't do as a person. The bill of rights tells government what it may NOT do.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Listen up shleprock, I've avoided responding to any of your posts because they're so laughable they deconstruct themselves.

I can destroy this entire post with almost NO effort. Show me where, anywhere for that matter that you or I have the right to not be spoken to by fellow human beings. Cmon genius, let's see it. Unless you have direct evidence that Zim did more than speak to Trayvan, you're just making shit up to justify your conclusion.

And by the way, this is MY country and it's progressive scumbags like yourself that wouldn't have been tolerated back when you claim this country was better.

when your intent, combined with previously malicious and violent history, makes you a threat

your a fool . . . . .and will deserve all that your receive in your life . .. . you have little respect for other peoples rights . . .vs your agenda . . . . . .


and yes epic samwell failure . . . . .. . . ! oh no it happened

i was meaning, but way off, to quote " . . .. life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness . . .. . " . . . . . . .and declaration of independence . . . .


lmfao scum like me . . .tax paying . . . .. home owner . .and apart of neigborhood watch and dont shoot people . . . .grower vs . . . kill anything that scares you more than your shadow . . . American the white people like you who only tolerate what you want and have zero regaurd for others

 

[NoDrama]

when your intent, combined with previously malicous and violent history, makes you a threat

your a fool . . . . .and will deserve all that your recieve in your life . .. . you have little respect for other peoples rights . . .vs your agenda . . . . . .


and tes epic samwell failure . . . . .. . . ! oh no it happened

Never convicted, he has a history of being CHARGED with those crimes, But of course he IS a minority and I am sure it was racism all along.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

have some bombshell evidence we don't know about.

I give you exibit A.

If you don't come back with a guilty verdict, I'll come back with exibit B tomorrow.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

well it does give you some insight to his behavior pattens and why he might also be slightly racist . . . . . .all motives. . . dont you think . . . .but definitely not facts just insight into his mindset before choosing to engage this situation .. . . .all imho showing negligence

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I give you exibit A.

If you don't come back with a guilty verdict, I'll come back with exibit B tomorrow.

did i write that . .. . .and jesus . . .a hammer . . . they are in jail right?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

did i write that . .. . .and jesus . . .a hammer . . . they are in jail right?

Yeah, spear chucking was too complicated for those two.

 

[UncleBuck]

I give you exibit A.

If you don't come back with a guilty verdict, I'll come back with exibit B tomorrow.

how long did it take the police to bring them in?

it took them about 45 days to bring in zimmerman.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

how long did it take the police to bring them in?

it took them about 45 days to bring in zimmerman.

come on buck

although slow and dimwitted and somewhat biased the proof of a crime is going to be a up hill battle, reasonable doubt is s bitch and imo most of the time police only charge people if they think it will stick, my ex girl was raped and short story nothing happened because it was hard to prove(she was blacked out drunk but conscious . . . . ), but they have levied charges now . . . .and we can only hope that the truth is proven whatever that may be? i think hes guilty of negligence others dont we will see if it is as clear as we all assume

 

[UncleBuck]

come on buck

although slow and dimwitted and somewhat biased the proof of a crime is going to be a up hill battle, reasonable doubt is s bitch and imo most of the time police only charge people if they think it will stick, my ex girl was raped and short story nothing happened because it was hard to prove(she was blacked out drunk but conscious . . . . ), but they have levied charges now . . . .and we can only hope that the truth is proven whatever that may be? i think hes guilty of negligence others dont we will see if it is as clear as we all assume

i'm content that it has been brought to trial.

whatever happens, happens. but i reserve the right to bitch and moan about it and banter about the evidence among my fellow dipshits on this website.

 

[Carne Seca]

I give you exibit A.

If you don't come back with a guilty verdict, I'll come back with exibit B tomorrow.

Yes, they will be subjected to a trial by jury. Zimmerman, due to a loophole caused by the Stand Your Ground law, literally would have gotten away with murder. Trayvon's parents simply wanted a trial. They didn't care about the outcome. They wanted justice for their son. This was never about race. It's about justice. So continue with the race baiting and race trolling. Keep up the ad hominem attacks on Trayvon and his family. The Martin family will have their day in court. Your bitching and moaning won't change that. Hopefully the backlash from this case will begin repeal proceedings in the states where STG laws have been implemented.

It's a pity it took the death of a child to get the ball rolling.

 

[cliffey501]

if you listen to this one you can still get a understanding of how Zimmerman kept following trayvon

at 1:40 he is getting out his truck

at 1:56 he is told not to following

at 2:00 he said "ok"

so lets say it should take him the same time to return to truck ( about 16 seconds)

the call lasted another 42+ seconds after he was told not to follow, in which he should have made it back to his truck..again good luck defending this shit.. Murder 2 probably not but the jury can always go with the lesser charge of manslaughter.

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That call is edited he was on the phone for like over 2 minutes after he was told not to follow.Trayvon had lots of time to go home but he didn't he doubled back to confront zimmy.

 

[Harrekin]

That call is edited he was on the phone for like over 2 minutes after he was told not to follow.Trayvon had lots of time to go home but he didn't he doubled back to confront zimmy.

Fair point, and he did lose sight of Trayvon at one point, why didn't Trayvon just fuck off home if that's all he was doing?

And why didn't he just keep walking home? Even if Zimmerman approached him, why didn't he just say "I'm going up to my Dads".

This is why it's funny that people here are so sure of what happened, black kid walking home when he's attacked and murdered by a white (actually hes Hispanic) guy with a racist grudge?

Or black kid is walking home, is approached and questioned, feels like he needs to prove something and a fight breaks out resulting in Rim-merman shooting Van-Tray...he shouldnt have shot him at all, or approached him, but in all logic and reality, which is the more likely of the two to have happened in the REAL WORLD?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

your a fool . . . . .and will deserve all that your receive in your life . .. . you have little respect for other peoples rights . .

vs kill anything that scares you more than your shadow . . . American the white people like you who only tolerate what you want and have zero regaurd for others

Well, I retired 8 years ago at the ripe old age of 36 and have two wonderful children and a wife that adores me, so ouch!! And there's quite a few people who would probably argue I don't "deserve" my situation, so either you're right and I'm an awesome person or there really is no such thing as karma.

I've had a concealed carry license in both VA and NC for over 9 years combined and NEVER had to even place my hand on my weapon. Why? Because I've never had cause to do so, just like the overwhelming majority of your fellow citizens that legally carry. But in a Gabby Giffords situation, you're gonna be glad someone like me is there to stop the killing spree quickly and possibly save a young girl.

And how the hell do you come up with me being white?