trayvan martin

Samwell Seed Well

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when you rent an apartment you have common areas . . .no one owns them . .. . and Zimmermans home was not any where near the shooting to dictate the castle doctrine
 

Canna Sylvan

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like the 911 dispatcher said, there ain't no property worth killing someone over.
Not true. No property is worth dying over. What if it's the only pictures of your dead child, your life's work research, a novel you worked on for decades, all your personal artwork you made, your only Olympic gold medal, etc. A thief has no idea what he's really stealing. If a person isn't willing to die over what is stolen, don't steal it. You're stealing time from someone. Don't be shocked you get all your time on Earth stolen in return.
 

Stillbuzzin

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What makes any of you think any part of this is fair. The 17 year old kid will never be back. Zimmerman will have to live with what happened no matter what any of you think. Its truly a sad sad event.
 

Corso312

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i am pleased .... i knew all along this retard zimmerman would be charged..the conviction will be harder to get ..
 

Harrekin

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2nd Degree Murder isnt gonna happen, talk about pushing it back till after Nov cos they know they havnt a chance of a conviction.
 

mccumcumber

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Not true. No property is worth dying over. What if it's the only pictures of your dead child, your life's work research, a novel you worked on for decades, all your personal artwork you made, your only Olympic gold medal, etc. A thief has no idea what he's really stealing. If a person isn't willing to die over what is stolen, don't steal it. You're stealing time from someone. Don't be shocked you get all your time on Earth stolen in return.
I would never kill someone over my life's research in math or all my artwork (only options that apply to me). I doubt people would kill over a photo or a novel they've been writing either. I don't really care for material possessions all too much. You could learn a thing or two from Buddhist monks who destroy their artwork immediately after finishing it. Don't let your life be consumed by material value and you'll be a much happier person.
 

afrawfraw

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If your worried about intruders, use booby traps. Jail time is considerably less. I remember a story about 15 years ago about a guy who booby trapped his cabin with shotguns because of multiple break ins and vandalisms. Of course, the thieves returned, and were splashed all over the wall when the owner showed up a few days later. SENTENCE? 6 months + probation, and a strong talking to by the judge. :clap:
 

southern homegrower

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also, there was no public outcry for stand your ground laws. it is another example of lobbying by special interests. there was no epidemic of cases that stand your ground laws would have remedied.

in fact, many people have taken stand your ground laws as a license to kill, even when they are clearly not fearing for their life. for example, this guy is in his home and sees his neighbor's house getting robbed.

911 tells him several times to just stay inside his house, that there ain't no property worth killing someone over. this guy gets his shotgun, waits until the robbers leave his neighbor's house, and then runs outside and guns them down. his words are "hello! you're dead!"

[video=youtube;J-63eOPywSw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-63eOPywSw[/video]

he walked. he was never in fear for his life, he was using the law as a license to kill.

i have no problem with stand your ground laws with respect to the castle doctrine part. but if it ain't your castle, you do not get to serve as judge, jury, and executioner.

in my state, i do not have stand your ground laws. if someone comes and robs my greenhouse this fall, i have to let them unless they threaten my life, and i am OK with that. like the 911 dispatcher said, there ain't no property worth killing someone over.
If you make your living and pay your bills off your greenhouse is that not threatening your life
 

londonfog

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If you are breaking in my house I will shoot to end you. If you are breaking in my business then you might catch a break, but I suggest you don't move until the police come ( same with any of my vehicles ).
 
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