My Clone From Leaf Experiment

COD4

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I know for a fact leaves will take root, not sure about any new growth though.

I took some clones not long ago and I did the leaf trimming inside my clone box. I left the trimmings on the floor of the clone box without cleaning them up. The clonebox floor is made of that green rockwool. Anyhow, the fucking clippings ended up taking root and I had to physically rip them up.

Right now I also am trying to clone using a leaf. I have a huge ass indica leaf in my clonebox, I'll let you all know how it goes.
 

COD4

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Did any of you try to put clone gel or powder on the leaf(s) before you try and clone them? Seems I can't get the leafs to take root if I use clone gel. They will take root with water, but won't with water+gel
 

COD4

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Im starting to see why nobody really talks about this cloning method....:mrgreen:

Yea, but what if we can figure out how to do it correctly? You could pull 1000's of clones off of one plant. I have clippings that are no more than a half inch long part of 1 finger of a leaf taking root as we speak. You could dice up an entire plant and make 1000's of pieces like that ;o
 

MsMILFweed

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Did any of you try to put clone gel or powder on the leaf(s) before you try and clone them? Seems I can't get the leafs to take root if I use clone gel. They will take root with water, but won't with water+gel
Hmmmm that's interesting. Maybe we need to experiment with different types of cloning gel? What do you use? I use Rootech (the orange stuff). I don't like Olivia's, that stuff looks like snot!

The technique here is supposed to be cutting the veins behind each leaflet and putting cloning gel on that. The new plant should grow from where you cut and put the gel.
 

COD4

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Hmmmm that's interesting. Maybe we need to experiment with different types of cloning gel? What do you use? I use Rootech (the orange stuff). I don't like Olivia's, that stuff looks like snot!

I don't know what I use, I will have to check. It's in a small white container and it's an orange gel...
 

MsMILFweed

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Here's a link with some info

Artificial Vegetative Propagation

Artificial Vegetative Propagation
--Leaf Cutting



Many plants can be artificially cloned by leaf cuttings; species that work well include African violet (Saintpaulia), Peperomia, bryophyllum (Kalanchoe) and jade plant (Crassula). In this process a leaf (blade + petiole) is removed from the donor plant. The leaf is placed in moist soil or, perhaps, in water and placed in the light.
  1. The leaf blade, as usual, produces IAA (auxin). This auxin is transported basipetally (down the petiole) as usual.
  2. The IAA accumulates in the base of the petiole to the point that a callus tissue (tumor) forms. A callus is a mixture of meristematic cells and parenchyma cells. Since these cells do not have a determined fate, it is possible to influence these cells to differentiate in just about any direction.
  3. The IAA continues to accumulate in the callus. The concentration rises to the point that roots are initiated on the callus.
  4. The roots produce cytokinins (CK). This hormone is transported acropetally (away from the root tip, toward the callus). The cytokinin accumulates in the callus.
  5. As the concentration of cytokinin accumulates in the callus, it stimulates shoot formation. The shoots then can grow up. In the end you have a shoot with roots...a whole plant!
 

Maccabee

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Applying a little kelp extract to the area in which the leaf stem is rooting may help stimulate shoot growth if I'm reading the above correctly, as kelp extract is rich in cytokinin.
 

TetraHyC

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Applying a little kelp extract to the area in which the leaf stem is rooting may help stimulate shoot growth if I'm reading the above correctly, as kelp extract is rich in cytokinin.
Good idea.

No vegging leaves available, I'll try that next time.

I have some bushmaster, that stuff is powerful.

I don't know much about SCRoG, always planted sea of green, but BM will make your plants into shrubs.

I used it too early the first time, had a bunch of bonsai without trying.

If you use it DON'T USE TOO MUCH !
 

Maccabee

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I give high doses of kelp extract intentionally (maybe not quite as radically) in combination with spiral LST to get smaller plants with crazy branching. The end result is tons of growing tops in a short bushy profile, with the stem bent to allow them all to grow more or less upwards. The branching undergrowth that is too small to flower is perfect for taking clones.

But, anyway, I'm eager to experiment with this leaf thing.
 

MsMILFweed

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Good idea.

No vegging leaves available, I'll try that next time.

I have some bushmaster, that stuff is powerful.

I don't know much about SCRoG, always planted sea of green, but BM will make your plants into shrubs.

I used it too early the first time, had a bunch of bonsai without trying.

If you use it DON'T USE TOO MUCH !
Tet, are you using soil? I used some BushMaster on my soil plant last grow (Juicy Fruit) but it just still grew, grew and grew upwards not outwards. I haven't been able to get it to work.
 

TetraHyC

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Tet, are you using soil? I used some BushMaster on my soil plant last grow (Juicy Fruit) but it just still grew, grew and grew upwards not outwards. I haven't been able to get it to work.
Coco and Perlite 50/50. At 50% or more perlite you can water as much as you like.

Treated as hydroponic, feed single pass, 20% run-off

House and Garden, Van De Zwaan

A+B Coco Excellent Base
Roots excelurator very good
Bud XL not big results, but its 1ml to a liter
Top Booster powerful P K
Shooting powder Killer, produces second flowering

I don't think I like the bushmaster, I like to grow corn cob style buds, sea of green."nobody in here but us sardines" I clean off all the lower branches a good four inches.

Man, starting to ramble.:spew:

Thats straight Coco in the little tray.
The brick coco sucks. Chunky
Bagged is very good. Nice and fine
Canna adds trichoderma to their coco.

Time to shut-up.:hump:

I bet different strains react differently to that BM.:peace:
 

Maccabee

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I'm doing something similar, but with 45% higromite, 40% hyrdoton, and 15% light warrior. The plants are happy.
 

MsMILFweed

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Yeah, I've decided I don't like BushMaster either, however, I do plan on trying it with some tomato plants out on the deck. That may be the thing it's good for.
 
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