Chronic Pain

ozzrokk

ozzrokk

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You want him to back off? When you spew your hatred for patients and caregivers and then want to prove you are one and that will make everything ok? Wow.
 
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bob harris

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ozzrokk said:
You want him to back off? When you spew your hatred for patients and caregivers and then want to prove you are one and that will make everything ok? Wow.
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I've never spewed hatred for patients or caregivers. Nor am I trying to prove that I can make everything OK.

You spew hatred..not me....you spew it towards society in general.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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bob harris said:
Good point capt...I'm off...Ill just put it on a calender with today's date..Hows that?

But before I go..are you going to answer that one simple question if I do this for you?

You keep avoiding that...
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What about you growing swag? I never said you grow swag, so there is nothing for me to answer. You want me to say it? Fine, you grow swag. In fact I don't think you grow anything at all. You don't even need to go to the store. Take a marker, write on a piece of paper, "bob harris" and take a pic of it with your buds.
 
ozzrokk

ozzrokk

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63% of the voters approved medical marijuana. They did not vote for a cannibis carnival. Find an open dispensary, sit outside and watch the traffic. What you'll see is a steady flow of young, healthy appearing people. Then they'll come out giggling like school girls, and fire up right in the car. That sure looks like people gettin high, not "medicating". Ya don't see people coming out of the pharmacy giggling like school girls, and ya don't see them tearing open the bottle and sharing with their friends in the parking lot either.

Ask the "care giver" what strain is good for MS..or Parkinson's...he won't have a clue. Shouldn't he be able to answer questions like a pharmacist?



The "crack down" is a direct response to the flaunting and irresponsible behavior that most "patients" and "care givers" display.

I would guess that 70% of the "patients" with cards couldn't get a real Doctor to find anything wrong with them that remotely qualifies as legitimate.
Pain is the most used condition. But it's supposed to be chronic pain..from a major condition. Not a hang nail 10 years ago...just won't heal doc..

And hey, that's good and fine,. But couldn't people show a little discretion and humility? So long as the yahoos out there act like it's been leagalized, which it hasn't, the State will continue to tighten things up.
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These were your words bob.
 
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bob harris

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
What about you growing swag? I never said you grow swag, so there is nothing for me to answer. You want me to say it? Fine, you grow swag. In fact I don't think you grow anything at all. You don't even need to go to the store. Take a marker, write on a piece of paper, "bob harris" and take a pic of it with your buds.
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No..about the room being a pretty decent set-up...Will you think I do have a grow room if I do as you ask..or just scream 'photo shop" or something.

Thats all I ask Capt'n

Just say" Bob, sorry to accuse you of being a cop, I can see now that your room is real, you must be a grower, and yes, it looks as though you have the proper equipment to grow to some potentially fine cannabis."

Can you do that one simple thing?
 
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bob harris

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
I already said it didn't look bad except for the shitty outlet. They still look like pics from a raid.

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That outlet has all the low draw crap on it..co2 valve (not the monitor, just the valve) my fan, and an ac unit that rarely has to kick in

Ok after dinner I'll post your pic..just to see if you will man up...and apologize for calling me a cop, and a liar. If you don't...well everyone will see what a little girl you are.
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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As a medical patient with Chronic pain i would have a very hard time working in that room. It looks a mess...but i have no doubt that good pot could be grown in it.
And, if your parkinsons is anything like my fathers, I dont know how you could do it.
 
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bob harris

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Dr Gruber said:
As a medical patient with Chronic pain i would have a very hard time working in that room. It looks a mess...but i have no doubt that good pot could be grown in it.
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Thank you..it is tight quarters..but in reality, once in flower, all the "work" I have to do is water...and that doesn't take much space. When I do have to stake a plant or trim..I take the plants out to the veg room, wgere there is more space.
 
gladstoned

gladstoned

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bob harris said:
Me? I'm a med user...not a pot smoker...not that I haven't been a pot smoker in the past. But you see, how cannabis works in me is different now. When I was healthy..it got me high...With PD..it just gets me back to myself.
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Bob, that is pure bs. This is the shit you get mad at Timmahh about. lol.
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
and because bob is an expert in Lyme Disease, here is a vid of a guy that has it. This is NOT my friend. just a youtube video. My buddy is FAR worse than this guy. far far worse. One would think my buddy suffers from MS instead of Lymes.

So bob. Go fuck yourself and your ignorant ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z10U4bMYmVc&feature=related
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The guy in Michigan was infected with Lyme's disease in the womb..it went undetected for 14 years..the undetected Lymes disease did a ton of damage...although I'm sure that your friend is a differnt guy..that only you know about..and can't be disclosed for privacy reasons.

Lyme's is a horrible disease. Bacterial in nature. Difficult to 'cure". But cannabis can't help lyme's disease. Only offer relief from the syptoms caused by the bacterial infection.

Does your undisclosed friend take antibiotics? Other traditional meds?..or have you convinced him that cannabis alone shall set him free?

I cant qualify for Parkinson's disease. I qualify for the symptoms that Parkinson's has caused. Muscle spasms, seizures and cachexia.

A patient can't qualify for Lyme's Disease....unless he develops something that qualifies him through other symptoms.

Same with cancer. Cancer can be diagnosed, and if caught early, sometimes surgically removed. Once you are cancer free..why do you need cannabis?

My Sister had ovarian cancer 15 tears ago..underwent surgery, never came back..never caused any symptoms, pain, nothing after the surgery and recovery. So she's eligible for a card?

It's really simple to understand...why can't you get it?
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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Good for your sister.

Me on the other hand, have lost both of my sisters to savage types of aggressive cancers. One died on my birthday in 2000, Breast cancer, Diagnosed with a tumor less than 1/2 mm in size. With in 4 months it has moved to her lymph nodes and other breast. 3 month later it was in her liver kidneys and lungs. 3 month more, brain, blood, bone and spinal fluid. 5 month later we burried her, 3 days after my 36th Bday.

My other sister......
Died Dec 23, 2005, 4 days prior to her only sons 5th birthday (he was born Dec 27th) My sister Debbie was diagnosed with an aggressive form of pancratic cancer. Much like my only other sister, she died within 18 months of being diagnosed. At 2 months after diagnosis, they went in for exploratory. It was already too late. A set of fingers had grown out of the tumor in her pancreas. The finger entwined themselves not only with the nerve bundle that runs by the Pancreas, but also through and around the vain that goes from the lungs and feeds blood to the lower part of your entire body. One finger had also wrapped off her lower intestine. They took out what little they could by the lower intestine so she could still eat normally. but with in 4 more months, the finger came back and fully encircled her small intestine, and over the next year, We got to watch her starve to death.

So forgive me if I dont shed a tear for your sisters ovarian cancer. She lived through what is known as a very curable cancer, and has been over the last decade or two. Yes Some forms are aggressive, and generally end up with a full hysterectomy, while not being a great thing, at least they have a pretty normal life, unless they are in child bearing years.


again you speaking circles bob. you say your an expert in Lymes desease, but yet you have NO fucking clue on how it effects those afflicted with it.

I am not privy to my Buddys Dr/Pt info. that as you noted is private. But what i will tell you, is his dr, the one that diagnosed his Lyme Disease 12 yrs ago. Had his paperwork ready the minute the state was accepting applications, and he has since reduced the majority of the prescriptions he was writing as they were killing my buddy.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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oh, and 13 days after my sister Debbie died, my brother died of a combination of sleep apnea and prescription medicine causing an accidental overdose.... He died on Janurary 5, 2006, 2.5 hrs AFTER his daughters 16th birthday.

if anyone has questions death certificates are public records. I will be happy (well sad actually) but i will point you in the appropriate direction to prove my comments. but bob, not you. You have a sister, go hug her before shes gone.
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
oh, and 13 days after my sister Debbie died, my brother died of a combination of sleep apnea and prescription medicine causing an accidental overdose.... He died on Janurary 5, 2006, 2.5 hrs AFTER his daughters 16th birthday.

if anyone has questions death certificates are public records. I will be happy (well sad actually) but i will point you in the appropriate direction to prove my comments. but bob, not you. You have a sister, go hug her before shes gone.
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My sister lives with my mom..1 condo building away. See them both often. Sister moved in with mom to help her. She just turned 90. Mom has had heart surgery (took that thing out of her, rebuilt it like a carburetor, and put it back in)..pace maker too..she one tough old Bird.

You've had a lot of personal tragedy in your life...My condolences..truly
 
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