Larry OG vs. Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (2nd Scrog)

lordjin

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very nice of you to delete your post jin,dont wanna be to blame for this right?
all of this,cause you want to harvest at day 50?,this is just crazy,i tell ya.

No, the crap I typed still appears in their responses so I'm not free of blame.

I just got rid of mine in preparation for a general cleanup. My thread undergoes that process from time to time.

Yeah, the funny thing? I think I will go longer this time. Ha ha!
 

dirk d

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man whats going on guys??? wtf??? everyone needs to just chill and smoke a bowl. thought you guys used to be friends. didnt cheezy get you the tahoe clones?? focus on the grow and hot women jin. you guys sound like a bunch of 7th graders. i cant believe i just read all that negative energy. does it really matter who's dic* is bigger?? if you must know my di** is the biggest! lol seriously where the hell is tiffany??? enough of this shizt.
 

lordjin

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man whats going on guys??? wtf??? everyone needs to just chill and smoke a bowl. thought you guys used to be friends. didnt cheezy get you the tahoe clones?? focus on the grow and hot women jin. you guys sound like a bunch of 7th graders. i cant believe i just read all that negative energy. does it really matter who's dic* is bigger?? if you must know my di** is the biggest! lol seriously where the hell is tiffany??? enough of this shizt.
Sorry, dude. I have a medical condition. LOL! But I'm starting to feel better now, Dirk.

323cheezy:

But seriously. Now do you understand how fucking crazy I am, Cheeze?

Why did i just do what I did? I'm not sure myself. Is it appropriate for me to apologize to you after all that? i don't think so.

But I'm considering taking them longer this time. Ha ha!

Sorry about all this, everyone (including Cheeze). It's just the way I get sometimes.
 

lordjin

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Mohican

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I have it on 15 minutes on and 15 minutes off during "lights on" and in the dark they get watered once an hour. The roots are hanging in the res so they are always wet!

How tall are your ladies now? That has got to be a ton of bud in there! Great job.

Can I SCROG mine, or should I top it or tomato cage...? It is starting to get big!
 

lordjin

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I have it on 15 minutes on and 15 minutes off during "lights on" and in the dark they get watered once an hour. The roots are hanging in the res so they are always wet!

How tall are your ladies now? That has got to be a ton of bud in there! Great job.

Can I SCROG mine, or should I top it or tomato cage...? It is starting to get big!
Thanks, Mo. The tallest branch is just about 24" off the screen.

Okay, if you have substantial roots making water contact, you can ease back on the lights on cycle. Try going 15 minutes every hour lights on, and in the dark period, give them a 15 min spray every three hours (meaning spraying only once or twice just to re-wet). Spraying becomes much more secondary when the roots are hanging and dipping into the water. You'll increase your spray frequency again when the plant sizes up and starts drinking hard.

For a seed plant, I would say do a combination of main head top and side branch training under a compact screen. Have you seen Scottyballs work?

Oh, and give it a gentle breeze that makes the leaves quiver ever so slightly.
 

Mohican

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Wow LJ - So you have a 24 inch thick brick of buds! That is outstanding. I will change the watering times as suggested.

I just checked out Scottys grow and that is amazing. It made me wonder about a couple things: When should I switch to 12/12 and is that when I start weaving the screen - during flower stretch?

Cheers,
Mo
 

lordjin

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Wow LJ - So you have a 24 inch thick brick of buds! That is outstanding. I will change the watering times as suggested.

I just checked out Scottys grow and that is amazing. It made me wonder about a couple things: When should I switch to 12/12 and is that when I start weaving the screen - during flower stretch?

Cheers,
Mo
It's a combination of grower preference and strain behavior I would say. I train the viney clones very early and weave throughout veg as documented in my quiet, event-free journal. I do some follow up training in early flower, but not much. I think seed plants, however, need to be approached differently. I wish I could give you first-hand experience with topping a seed plant under a screen, but what you see is what you get with me I'm afraid. That's why I pointed you to Scottyballs. In addition to having one of the funniest names, he's one of the most creative growers here imo. I wish I could do better than, "Just follow what Scotty does." But that's pretty much all I have. :D

Edit:
But since it would be wrong of me to try to squirm the easy way out, let's continue to look at your plant's progression here, and I'll advise you as best as I can. Seeing how the actual thing is sizing up will give me a much better idea. And I'm sure one or more among the other guys here have Fuck-I-Missed experience... unless they all ran for cover.
 

Mohican

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LJ - I never would have tried this if had not seen your grow journal. I have only ever grown outdoor before this. It was your killer journal that entertained me and taught me. Now I am doing it and it is working pretty well considering I decapitated the poor seedling. At this point it is all gravy. If all the stress this poor plant has been through does not cause it to go male on me I will be very surprised!

That Scotty grow was full of great info and he usually grows Sativas from seed so I think I can follow his method pretty closely. He did not top his plant, he just trains the main stem on the screen.

I would like to take a clone from this plant and try it outside until December and get the monster Sativa buds. I just need to find a way to get rid of the bugs!

Thanks for all of the great advice! Oh, I reset the timer to the new pattern. It is a desert plant after all!

Cheers,
Mo
 

lordjin

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LJ - I never would have tried this if had not seen your grow journal. I have only ever grown outdoor before this. It was your killer journal that entertained me and taught me. Now I am doing it and it is working pretty well considering I decapitated the poor seedling. At this point it is all gravy. If all the stress this poor plant has been through does not cause it to go male on me I will be very surprised!

That Scotty grow was full of great info and he usually grows Sativas from seed so I think I can follow his method pretty closely. He did not top his plant, he just trains the main stem on the screen.

I would like to take a clone from this plant and try it outside until December and get the monster Sativa buds. I just need to find a way to get rid of the bugs!

Thanks for all of the great advice! Oh, I reset the timer to the new pattern. It is a desert plant after all!

Cheers,
Mo
Y'know, I could get used to this new, quiet journal.
 

Green eggs and Pam

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LJ - I never would have tried this if had not seen your grow journal. I have only ever grown outdoor before this. It was your killer journal that entertained me and taught me. Now I am doing it and it is working pretty well considering I decapitated the poor seedling. At this point it is all gravy. If all the stress this poor plant has been through does not cause it to go male on me I will be very surprised!

That Scotty grow was full of great info and he usually grows Sativas from seed so I think I can follow his method pretty closely. He did not top his plant, he just trains the main stem on the screen.

I would like to take a clone from this plant and try it outside until December and get the monster Sativa buds. I just need to find a way to get rid of the bugs!

Thanks for all of the great advice! Oh, I reset the timer to the new pattern. It is a desert plant after all!

Cheers,
Mo
Mo, this is my first grow, but I am growing several varieties, both sativa hybrids (from bagseed) and indicas hybrids (from clones). I can say with certainty that each and every one of them has shown a beneficial reaction to topping. It makes these plants grow even more than before, especially out the nodes. I did some FIMing as well, with limited success. It had the effect of promoting node growth, but none of my FIM'd plants grew two main colas like they did once I topped them. Some varieties love being pinched, topped, LST'd; you can also tell which plants don't like what as well. I am vegging some clones now and trying different things on them. Every time I look at a pic of your plant, I think 'Top her!" :^) Not that I'm saying you gotta top her, of course. Just some food for thought.
 

lordjin

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Mo, this is my first grow, but I am growing several varieties, both sativa hybrids (from bagseed) and indicas hybrids (from clones). I can say with certainty that each and every one of them has shown a beneficial reaction to topping. It makes these plants grow even more than before, especially out the nodes. I did some FIMing as well, with limited success. It had the effect of promoting node growth, but none of my FIM'd plants grew two main colas like they did once I topped them. Some varieties love being pinched, topped, LST'd; you can also tell which plants don't like what as well. I am vegging some clones now and trying different things on them. Every time I look at a pic of your plant, I think 'Top her!" :^) Not that I'm saying you gotta top her, of course. Just some food for thought.
Good lookin' out. See? I didn't know all that. I don't top or fim at all.
 

Green eggs and Pam

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Y'know, I could get used to this new, quiet journal.
Since the topic of when to harvest has been brought up, can we talk about when to harvest? I just picked up a 40x microscope and looked at my trichs tonight. On my OG girls and master bubba girls, I am seeing some cloudy-ish trichs and some clear trichs. Jin, you had said you were thinking about 50 days. Is this based on your previous experience with your grows or are you looking at the trichs? I am trying to determine if I need to flush or change over to just ph-adjusted water from now on. Based on everything I am reading, I have to wait til I have half amber and half cloudy trichs to harvest.

Tomorrow is 42 days, and I'm growing soil-less, so even though I'm farther along than you, you are ahead of me, is that right?
 

Green eggs and Pam

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Good lookin' out. See? I didn't know all that. I don't top or fim at all.
On the OGs I'm growing, I do top the main plant to get her to branch out and I've been bending down all of her branches, which produces even more branches. They seem to really dig it. I might top them more if I can get them into a scrog set-up.
 

lordjin

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Since the topic of when to harvest has been brought up, can we talk about when to harvest? I just picked up a 40x microscope and looked at my trichs tonight. On my OG girls and master bubba girls, I am seeing some cloudy-ish trichs and some clear trichs. Jin, you had said you were thinking about 50 days. Is this based on your previous experience with your grows or are you looking at the trichs? I am trying to determine if I need to flush or change over to just ph-adjusted water from now on. Based on everything I am reading, I have to wait til I have half amber and half cloudy trichs to harvest.

Tomorrow is 42 days, and I'm growing soil-less, so even though I'm farther along than you, you are ahead of me, is that right?
Last time I killed power at 56 days I think? This might be kinda' touchy since it's the very thing that started the firestorm of negative rage, but I'll say again that I'm going to evaluate things at the 50 day mark. I hope I didn't give the impression that I was gonna cut at day 50. Even I'm not that stupid... Lol. No, but seriously, I'm gonna let them really sag for a few more days this time. Last time I was just sick of fighting the PM, so I chopped out of PM fuck you anger. No such problem this time. I can let them go for a while. If I had to guess... I'll def try for beyond day 60 this time if the leaves can take it.

I don't normally use the microscope to determine ripeness. I can just tell when my plants have stopped growing and have started dying by their appearance.

On the OGs I'm growing, I do top the main plant to get her to branch out and I've been bending down all of her branches, which produces even more branches. They seem to really dig it. I might top them more if I can get them into a scrog set-up.
I can see that. I haven't done the surgical stimulation through cutting per se, but I have seen stimulated budding through emergency pinching and bending and whatnot.
 

Mohican

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Hi Green - welcome to LJ's journal where everybody is welcome! I know wat you mean. My last grow was outdoors and it was the first time I ever grew without topping. This scrog thing is really excitingbecause you stimulate so many more bud sites. I just do not know how much longer to wait. I want to keep this grow small and managable. A lthougj I would like to take clone and see what this baby will do outside for a whole season!

Cheers,Mo
 
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