trayvan martin

londonfog said:
agree, but don't agree with any form of claiming self-defense when you are the one approaching.. No approach and everyone is alive and well..Zimmerman in the car. Told not to follow..Zimmerman next to dead body..self-defense my ass
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That is what i'm trying to say, if zimmerman had been in his car or walking down the street or in his yard and this guy approached him and started hitting him or even seriously threatening him in a hostile manner then I say shoot him, If zimmerman is getting his ass beat then he is within his rights to shoot in self defense- But since zimmerman followed this guy and was harassing him then even if he ends up getting his ass beat he has no right to shoot him as it is no longer self defense because he was the persuer or agressor- he had no right to be following and definitly no right to stalk and murder him- regardless of weather he created a situation he wasn't ready for and was getting his ass beat
 
cannabineer said:
Perhaps I am naïf, but "in court" is what matters. And I think that may come to pass as the FBI sort through the evidence. I WILL wager Zim was told "stay in town, mkay?" cn
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see court is just a thing.. i mean real justice court is for n scammin ppl out of money(jk) n shyt. i believe n karma
 
mccumcumber said:
I think this thread is growing faster than the hottest girls of RIU (or whatever the name of it was)... Shit like this happens every fucking day. I don't see why there's such a huge debate about the morality of it.

For those of you who haven't grown up in a ghetto, here are your options:

A) Put your hood up, do not wear any of the surrounding gangs' colors, don't talk to anyone you don't know, don't go out at night. Get a job or 3 so you can move out. You still might get shot. Deal with it.
B) Put your hood up, pretend that you're a little hood rat until you actually get into some shit. While you're pretending to apart of a bigger gang you get protection in your area. You still might get shot, but at least the chances are lowered. You're stuck in that area for life. Deal with it.

Trayvan fell into option B. The problem isn't as much Zimmerman as it is the shitty environment. Zimmerman saw a hooded figure and thought the dude was a hood rat. Apparently he decided to go vigilante on the dude's ass... not the sharpest tool in the shed, but hey, he wants to be a badass! AMERICA! Trayvan, living up to his reputation fought back. Both parties were being stupid, that's not the question. It seems like Trayvan beat Zimmerman down, and Zimmerman decided "not in my neighborhood buddy," and shot Trayvan. Now, what if Trayvan grew up in the rich area of town? Do you think any of this would have happened, probably not. It's not racism, or gun control laws, it's the consequences and the perceptions that are given to those who grow up in the ghetto that are wrong.

Edit: If I had to chose between options of Trayvan or Zimmerman being wrong, then it is undoubtedly Zimmerman.
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Maybe the ghetto need more people like zimmerman.People who are willing to volunteer their time to help change things in the community.Why should you have to be be scared to go out at night and scared to talk to people in your community?If people had the guts to report criminal activity than maybe something would be done about it.I don't think zimmerman looked at trayvon like a "hood rat".Im sure he is used to seeing black teens in the neighborhood.I seen somewhere that this neighborhood was 51% black.
 
cliffey501 said:
Maybe the ghetto need more people like zimmerman.People who are willing to volunteer their time to help change things in the community.Why should you have to be be scared to go out at night and scared to talk to people in your community?If people had the guts to report criminal activity than maybe something would be done about it.I don't think zimmerman looked at trayvon like a "hood rat".Im sure he is used to seeing black teens in the neighborhood.I seen somewhere that this neighborhood was 51% black.
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More people who get there ass whooped and pull out a gun. Sure we need those, Killin kids n shyt.
 
Black doesn't make a neighborhood ghetto. Crime and murders make it ghetto. There are just some ghettos that blacks happen to live in. There are ghettos that Asians live in, Whites live in, and Latinos live in too.

You really want some vigilante justice in the ghetto? That would just result in shit tons of bloodshed.
 
cliffey501 said:
Maybe the ghetto need more people like zimmerman.People who are willing to volunteer their time to help change things in the community.Why should you have to be be scared to go out at night and scared to talk to people in your community?If people had the guts to report criminal activity than maybe something would be done about it.I don't think zimmerman looked at trayvon like a "hood rat".Im sure he is used to seeing black teens in the neighborhood.I seen somewhere that this neighborhood was 51% black.
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and anywhere 51% black aint ghetto unless it's latino's. My hood is 100%black only white u find is some coke.
 
cliffey501 said:
Maybe the ghetto need more people like zimmerman.People who are willing to volunteer their time to help change things in the community.Why should you have to be be scared to go out at night and scared to talk to people in your community?If people had the guts to report criminal activity than maybe something would be done about it.I don't think zimmerman looked at trayvon like a "hood rat".Im sure he is used to seeing black teens in the neighborhood.I seen somewhere that this neighborhood was 51% black.
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excuse me Canadian ...again what crime was Zimmerman reporting. What criminal activity did he see Trayvan do ???
 
mccumcumber said:
Black doesn't make a neighborhood ghetto. Crime and murders make it ghetto. There are just some ghettos that blacks happen to live in. There are ghettos that Asians live in, Whites live in, and Latinos live in too.

You really want some vigilante justice in the ghetto? That would just result in shit tons of bloodshed.
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an all black N'Hood is definitely ghetto, promise.
 
TrynaGroSumShyt said:
More people who get there ass whooped and pull out a gun. Sure we need those, Killin kids n shyt.
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Thats not what im saying at all.Im from a small town I've never been to a "ghetto" in my life.What Im saying is if you walk past drug dealers,pimps,witness murders, and whatever else and don't do anything then who's to blame? Is the system failing you? If your not a part of the solution your a part of the problem.
 
Harrekin said:
Comparing Zimmerman to the likes of Nazi War criminals...and I'm the one smearing people?!
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he didn't compare zimmerman to a nazi war criminal, he mentioned that argentina is known to give refuge to nazi war criminals.

unlike you, who came out of the gates with "no limit nigga" this, and thug with a bad attitude that.
 
beardo said:
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dont even look like no george w.
 
cliffey501 said:
Thats not what im saying at all.Im from a small town I've never been to a "ghetto" in my life.What Im saying is if you walk past drug dealers,pimps,witness murders, and whatever else and don't do anything then who's to blame? Is the system failing you? If your not a part of the solution your a part of the problem.
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Do us all a favor and don't talk about what you don't know
 
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