Dick Cheney gets a heart transplant.

[GreatwhiteNorth]

Sounds like the consistence here of the younger crowd is let the old geezers drop.
Did I get that wrong?

cheyney is what 80?...too damn old to take a health heart from someone younger who needs it...if cheyney was broke he would have zero chance at that organ

that, at his age, he not only got placed on a transplant list but actually received the organ when millions with his exact same condition don't even get a sniff at being placed on the transplant list.

its cause he was one of the top in the gov. hes bout to die anyways why give him a heart? why not give someone younger a chance to live longer. if i was that old i would wanna die. i would be happy if i had the chance to die before i have to wear diapers and be taken care of.

why do you hope cheney survives the operation ? frankly i think he has lived far to long already.

Dick Cheney getting a heart transplant is like Adolf Hitler getting an antidote.

Not because Dick is as evil as Adolf, but because they both lived enough life to give the transplant/antidote to a younger person first.

I was thinking more like Fair-ism. It's only fair. Give the younger people a chance first...........

Although there are many factors that we probably don't know about that go into choosing a recipient, personally, I think it should have gone to a younger person.

this is about Cheney, not elderly people. I'd give a heart to a 110 year old without qualms.
Cheney is different. But this is just my opinion based on hatred of him.

 

[Total Head]

Sounds like the consistence here of the younger crowd is let the old geezers drop.
Did I get that wrong?

for the record i am 29 and i think older people should be totally eligible. for the sake of disclosure i should point out that my mother gave birth to me at the age of 39, so my perception of the "older crowd" isn't what a lot of people's is. i've grown up with people in their 50s 60s and 70s who could never be considered "old". my mother is 68 years old and still puts in a 40 hour work week in an emergency room. she doesn't look or act a day over 48 and she's in excellent shape. about 75% of my family lives well into their 90s.

she's spent her whole life "doing everything right", paying her dues, staying fit and healthy to even make it to that age. the notion that she should be told that she's ineligible for a transplant when she quite likely has a few decades left completely disgusts me. what's the point of all this advancement in modern medicine if people have a predetermined shelf life within society?

"we CAN make you live longer, you just don't deserve it because this younger person is worth more. thank you for your service to society, but your usefulness to us has expired. goodbye." why don't we just make a law that any person who lives to the age of 65 is taken out back and shot? medical crisis solved. jeez, people.

 

[ANC]

Even if old people may still be eligible, I think affirmative action should take place with preference to any younger organ receiver.

And I'm not heartless, my dad died wating for a heart, and I myself will probably need a new one some time in the future... I allready have one stent implanted in it.

Death is worse for the people who stay behind than the person it happens to.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

for the record i am 29 and i think older people should be totally eligible. for the sake of disclosure i should point out that my mother gave birth to me at the age of 39, so my perception of the "older crowd" isn't what a lot of people's is. i've grown up with people in their 50s 60s and 70s who could never be considered "old". my mother is 68 years old and still puts in a 40 hour work week in an emergency room. she doesn't look or act a day over 48 and she's in excellent shape. about 75% of my family lives well into their 90s.

she's spent her whole life "doing everything right", paying her dues, staying fit and healthy to even make it to that age. the notion that she should be told that she's ineligible for a transplant when she quite likely has a few decades left completely disgusts me. what's the point of all this advancement in modern medicine if people have a predetermined shelf life within society?

"we CAN make you live longer, you just don't deserve it because this younger person is worth more. thank you for your service to society, but your usefulness to us has expired. goodbye." why don't we just make a law that any person who lives to the age of 65 is taken out back and shot? medical crisis solved. jeez, people.

I was not hacking on you - I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some of the younger crowd that believes in the "Shelf life" mode of health care.
Do you suppose the posters that advocated for dismissing ones medical requirements due to exceeding some random age limit have grandparents ?
Still - - - ?

 

[Blaze Master]

Sounds like the consistence here of the younger crowd is let the old geezers drop.
Did I get that wrong?

hey i don't think cheney should die because he's old, i think he should die because he is evil.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

why do you hope cheney survives the operation ? frankly i think he has lived far to long already.

That's not what you said earlier.

 

[Blaze Master]

That's not what you said earlier.

yeah he has lived too long because he is an evil douche bag. if he died many years ago the world would probably be a better place. now if i were to say hitler lived too long would you assume i didn't like old people or that i didn't like hitler.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

I'll not put words in your mouth, nor will I assume to know what you mean.

You said it - you own it.

 

[elduece]

yeah he has lived too long because he is an evil douche bag. if he died many years ago the world would probably be a better place. now if i were to say hitler lived too long would you assume i didn't like old people or that i didn't like hitler.

Unless you have served in the military, he's a bigger, smarter and stronger person than you can hope ever achieve in your pathetic lifetime.

 

[Blaze Master]

I'll not put words in your mouth, nor will I assume to know what you mean.

You said it - you own it.

you are assuming you know what i meant. you are twisting my words to fit your agenda.

 

[Blaze Master]

Unless you have served in the military, he's a bigger, smarter and stronger person than you can hope ever achieve in your pathetic lifetime.

lol thats pretty funny he is neither of those things. the fact that you defending a war criminal tells me how much of a retarded loser you truly are.

 

[Winter Woman]

you are assuming you know what i meant. you are twisting my words to fit your agenda.

He didn't twist anything.

 

[Winter Woman]

Carne, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I hope that you stay healthy for a long time.

 

[Blaze Master]

He didn't twist anything.

he obviously did. just because i think one evil old man should die doesn't mean i want all old people to die.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

you are assuming you know what i meant. you are twisting my words to fit your agenda.

I have no agenda, therefore it would be futile for me to spin anything.
Again, man up and own your words.

 

[Blaze Master]

I have no agenda, therefore it would be futile for me to spin anything.
Again, man up and own your words.

you obviously do have an agenda fool. thats why you also included YaKs quote when he was clearly saying the same thing as me. senility is a bitch old man.

 

[Carne Seca]

Carne, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I hope that you stay healthy for a long time.

Thanks WW. He's in the early to mid stages so he has his good days and bad ones. Mom being terminal is really screwing with him. Plus his sister (my aunt) died last month on top of my brother dying in May. It's been pretty rough on the old geezer. I love that old man.

 

[Winter Woman]

Thanks WW. He's in the early to mid stages so he has his good days and bad ones. Mom being terminal is really screwing with him. Plus his sister (my aunt) died last month on top of my brother dying in May. It's been pretty rough on the old geezer. I love that old man.

Sounds like you've been put threw the wringer. Enjoy them while you have them.

I can't imagine losing a sibling. Your in my prayers.

 

[neosapien]

Of course the majority of older people have earned and deserve the right to medical care. If my father needed a heart, he deserves and I would want him to get that heart. Dick Cheney has earned nothing. As Blaze Master said he is an evil evil man. It has nothing to do with ageism. It has to do with him being a mass-murderer and someone else being more worthy. Be it older or younger.

 

[meechz 024]

If only a heart transplant actually was spiritual. The breakthrough in science it would be.
Though, a heart is just a piece of meat that pumps blood afterall.