The 12-12 From Seed Thread

[dankerous]

See I sell these things,I am not buying into seed companies retoric,they dont breed autos for your ease of use,like with feminized seeds its about making you have to go back for more seeds,no males = no stable breeding,autos = no clones, and actually cost more to grow 9-11 weeks at 18/6 than 13 weeks at 12/12,so its all about 12/12 really,also autos all yeild bud that is like crap northern lights,I have tried many of these new super autos and they arent much better than the normal ones,onyx/himilayan blue diesel etc, only a few autos are much cop,the chronic ryder can yeild 2.5 oz max,still I could get a clone of chronic and get that anyway so I dont see the point in autos,other than making "you" have less power/control over what you do,its all about making you spend more on seeds,every 8-10 weeks you have to spend £30-50 on seed,its b/s,very clever on the seed breeders side business wise,beyond that nothing more than a fad,

Well, I, for one, am using silly autoflowers because I don't know what the F I'm doing and figure there is less to screw up! However, I'm trying 12/12 also and will likely just use 12/12 if I can grow anything successfully.

Off topic, but why do people opt for the non-digital Volcano? Is there an advantage to it or a disadvantage to the digital? When I actually have something to put in it I'm going to buy one or the other.

 

[dankerous]

Also if you want a good vap,you want the Essential vapp,its a medical bit of equiptment rather than dutch made money machine, once you get a volcano you will be spending silly money on all the spares n b/s that comes with them,get a E-vap and its literally a metal handle with a glass vial works really well,trust me as I say I sell these things,look it up online

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RASTA-ECLIPSE-ESSENTIAL-EV101-VAAAPP-MANY-EXTRAS-/320715456454

 

[roofwayne]

The sativa dom can get 4' tall, I wasn't topping or anything, I end up supercropping a few, because they were growing into light...rw

 

[supchaka]

trust me as I say I sell these things,look it up online

LOL Sorry dude but the general consensus is to not trust someones opinion that has a vested interest in the subject!

 

[roofwayne]

Dank; I guessing you don't like autos.lol ...rw

 

[dankerous]

Im not here to sell,do you see me plugging my own product?,or do you see me giving advice from the point of view of some one that has access to all of the products in the market,and knows what is novelty crap and what is not,I am giving 100% truthful opinion on the matter I am not here to make money,if anything I am here to save people wasting theirs,but you know what,go by a volcano waste £350 minimum on a crappy smoking implement when you could get one just as good for £65,yeah I really am trying to push a hard sale here arent I....god try n do a cat a favor and get treated like some kind of crack dealer,not cool at all

LOL Sorry dude but the general consensus is to not trust someones opinion that has a vested interest in the subject!

 

[supchaka]

Im not here to sell,do you see me plugging my own product?,or do you see me giving advice from the point of view of some one that has access to all of the products in the market,and knows what is novelty crap and what is not,I am giving 100% truthful opinion on the matter I am not here to make money,if anything I am here to save people wasting theirs,but you know what,go by a volcano waste £350 minimum on a crappy smoking implement when you could get one just as good for £65,yeah I really am trying to push a hard sale here arent I....god try n do a cat a favor and get treated like some kind of crack dealer,not cool at all

No need to get butt hurt, I was pointing out the obvious. Saying trust me, I sell these, is not what makes someone believe what you have to say...

 

[roofwayne]

Dank, don't take it personal. There are people who try and sell their stuff on here. I trust your opinion, don't like vapes anyway, rather have the smoke. Of course that,s my opinion. Smoke one brother...rw

 

[fir3dragon]

The sativa dom can get 4' tall, I wasn't topping or anything, I end up supercropping a few, because they were growing into light...rw

thats too tall, i need it to stay about 2 or 3 ft. a gallon or 2 im guessing would work.

 

[roofwayne]

That why Del uses smaller pots. I think his final pot is like a11/2gal one...rw

 

[dankerous]

with pots I start with a 7 x 7 like del then control size until sex is shown,then I put them in their final pot, varies on size dependent on the strain,the chemmy jones I did I got 21gs of a plant in a 1.5 liter yes liter pot,under a 125 cfl,now I would love to see some one do better than that with that light n pot size

my avatar is that plant in question

 

[fir3dragon]

could i possibly keep them in the red 18 oz cups until sex then plant into 2 gal?

 

[dankerous]

Yeah man 18 oz cup is like 10 m tall with a 8 cm bottom at 10 cm top if I am correct with my measurements that is fine for starting them off in

 

[fir3dragon]

Yeah man 18 oz cup is like 10 m tall with a 8 cm bottom at 10 cm top if I am correct with my measurements that is fine for starting them off in

alright sounds good. i got a grow going right now thats not 12/12 they are in 5 gallon buckets and im running out of room.. basically already am out of room lol if i didnt have a cool tube, they would be burnt i think. on the 29th they will be 6 weeks of flowering.

 

[dankerous]

Yeah that is why you will find people like Del and myself start in a small pot,it keeps the plant from going mad,then when you re pot it,with in a few weeks its almost at its full size,then its just about bending it over if you grow like me,or just letting it do its thing as Del likes to do,neither way is right or wrong,its all about what you need to do to get the best out of your situation

alright sounds good. i got a grow going right now thats not 12/12 they are in 5 gallon buckets and im running out of room.. basically already am out of room lol if i didnt have a cool tube, they would be burnt i think. on the 29th they will be 6 weeks of flowering.

 

[fir3dragon]

Yeah that is why you will find people like Del and myself start in a small pot,it keeps the plant from going mad,then when you re pot it,with in a few weeks its almost at its full size,then its just about bending it over if you grow like me,or just letting it do its thing as Del likes to do,neither way is right or wrong,its all about what you need to do to get the best out of your situation

ok thanks man, +rep i like letting it do its own thing. i just water and give it nutes and keep bugs away.

 

[dankerous]

That's cool man,still,its all about seeing what suites you,I don't want you to think I am saying you have to do it that way,there is many right ways of doing the same thing,so just play about and tweak it to your needs/environment,its the only way to really learn in my opinion

 

[fir3dragon]

That's cool man,still,its all about seeing what suites you,I don't want you to think I am saying you have to do it that way,there is many right ways of doing the same thing,so just play about and tweak it to your needs/environment,its the only way to really learn in my opinion

yeah, i let it go cuz its less work for me to do. plus 12/12 from seed will keep me a good supply how many could i do under a 400w? how much could i get per plant?

 

[dankerous]

To be fair both of those questions are strain dependent,and other factors,sea of green?screen of green?,standard grow,abit of LST,,Im thinking 4 nice size plants,though if any one wants to correct me on that that is cool

 

[East Coast Pro]

Dankerous your avatar picture was done under 1 125w CFL? Do you have a picture of your light? Or possibly throw me a link to one like it?