Winter Woman
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Mickey Mantle's transplant really, really, pissed me off. That one certainly was inappropriate.
Dick Cheney gets a heart transplant.
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Winter Woman
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They told my husband that he'll need a heart, but they won't put him on the list since he still has a beer every night.
They told him he'd have to stop beer and stay clean (no beer whatsoever) for at least a year. I bet the VP had his toddies.
They told him he'd have to stop beer and stay clean (no beer whatsoever) for at least a year. I bet the VP had his toddies.
Winter Woman
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there are a host of reasons he got that heart. First would be tissue type, he had to match.
Second, the person that died had to be semi-close. Close enough to be flown to the facility that Cheney was registered with and still be viable. If the donor was in CA, it won't have happened.
I know you can shop around for a center that does transplants and each center has a different list of people needing organs. I'm sure he shopped around and found a hospital that had a shorter list and that did enough transplants that he'd get to the top of the list for his tissue type. If you are wealthy enough you can afford to move or rent in the zone that's close enough to get you to the hospital in time for a transplant.
Second, the person that died had to be semi-close. Close enough to be flown to the facility that Cheney was registered with and still be viable. If the donor was in CA, it won't have happened.
I know you can shop around for a center that does transplants and each center has a different list of people needing organs. I'm sure he shopped around and found a hospital that had a shorter list and that did enough transplants that he'd get to the top of the list for his tissue type. If you are wealthy enough you can afford to move or rent in the zone that's close enough to get you to the hospital in time for a transplant.
ANC
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When your life depends on it, lie.
P.S. I have also had a heart attack and I also have a beer each night, just one though. Apparently it is good for keeping bad cholesterol down.
Winter Woman
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This is what scares me about Obamacare:
All records will be electronic and will be shared from doctor to doctor to hospitals to clinics. If a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist that wants to put a note that is not about a real situation, or about your usage, or attitude; you will have no recourse, it will be there FOREVER no matter what it is about. Remember in medical records you can't delete you can only add a corrected version. Now a new doctor, nurse, etc., will have made a predetermined judgement about you.
I would never tell my husband's GP about his mmj, while his heart doctor told him is was good for him. This in the future will be problems for those that manipulate the system to acquire a mmj license.
I see a whole host of problems in the system.
All records will be electronic and will be shared from doctor to doctor to hospitals to clinics. If a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist that wants to put a note that is not about a real situation, or about your usage, or attitude; you will have no recourse, it will be there FOREVER no matter what it is about. Remember in medical records you can't delete you can only add a corrected version. Now a new doctor, nurse, etc., will have made a predetermined judgement about you.
I would never tell my husband's GP about his mmj, while his heart doctor told him is was good for him. This in the future will be problems for those that manipulate the system to acquire a mmj license.
I see a whole host of problems in the system.
neosapien
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I think all records have been electronic for some time now. I know my general practitioner went electronic when they moved buildings 6 years ago. I think it was inevitable no matter who took office. Those companies want to save money, cutting out paper costs is something almost every business around the world wants and is trying to do.
Carne Seca
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Whatever else he is or what his ideology might be, he is a human being. He wants to live. Like any other human being. I'm glad he found a match and I hope he survives the operation. He'll be busy recovering and won't be dabbling in politics for awhile. Win/Win.
Winter Woman
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My hubby's gp isn't electronic yet. Neither is his mmj doctor. But, that will all change soon.
So many so quick to judge & condemn.
I'm with you Carne - I hope he makes it.
sonar
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I know things like honor and serving one's country don't really count for much these days but as former Vice President of the United State he should have declined the heart so a citizen could have it instead. Has nothing to do with party or ideology. It's sort of like the captain going down with the ship. Just one of those unwritten rules that few men live by these days.
Blaze Master
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osama was a human being too and i bet you didn't hope he would survive. now explain the difference.
Winter Woman
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At least the Italian captains don't go down with the ship.
Total Head
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these millions of other americans...refresh my memory. what were the reasons they weren't "considered" for the transplant? you forgot to mention that part.
Johnnyorganic
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He didn't forget.
That statement was a complete ass-pull based on speculation that Cheney was given preferential treatment.
Twenty months on a transplant waiting list is evidence enough he was not given preferential treatment.
So don't hold your breath waiting for any actual evidence backing up the statement you quoted.
FootballFirst
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that's a lot of vitriol right there.
Carne Seca
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Explain WHAT difference?
cannabineer
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Maybe the diff that Cheney is a nominally upstanding (never got caught, so passed his political finals) citizen of the USA, while Osama was an international criminal with a highly portable, transferable (and magazine-fed) health plan. cn
Blaze Master
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why do you hope cheney survives the operation ? frankly i think he has lived far to long already.
Winter Woman
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You are all getting too upset. Obamacare is going to make those selections for you. Do you think they will let older folks even be on the list? No cancer treatments for anyone over the age of 76. No real fixes for painful conditions when you're older, just tell grandma to take another Vicodin not have knee surgery. Oh wait, you can't take those pain pills because they are watching how many you take.
And you can't take mmj either.
And you can't take mmj either.