preppers on here got a question

JohnnyGreenfingers

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LOL! you got me!
I'll see you in hell!

If I think I'll have time to get over the sierra's, the Walker river dranage would be another target.
Or possibly straight up the coast & hit the Russian or eel rivers, they have salmon.

peace
doublejj
Too late, Bucko. My chocolate lab has her nose out the front window pointed NW. I gave her a piece of CO shirt to sniff. Better put on an extra fish for her, she bites. We'll be rolling in roughly 64 hours after shit hits the fan. Hungry.
 

James87

Active Member
idk about the rest of canada, but you can't hunt with -06 in southern ontario. Buckshot or slugs only. You have to go way north (1000 km..?) to break out the hunting rifles. 7.62x51 is more popular than .30-06, which shouldn't be surprising, since the -06 was its immediate predecessor. We also can't hunt "big game" with .22LR, or any other rimfire.

Layering your gear is important, but so is weight. Usually people are in a group, and layering (via group pool) is more important in this case, because if something fails, the group can still function. Having backup emergency gear is lighter than carrying two axes, for example. Having a multiuse tool that acts as a shovel, pickaxe, hammer, axe, etc is ok as emergency backup.. But primarily I'd use my K-Bar and portable saw. You take a 2-3 foot "green/live" branch to use as a baton with the saw, then you fall a dead tree.. cut it up with the saw. Then using your knife, place it on top of a log u just cut and hammer it through with the baton.. hammer until knife is buried, then hammer the swedge, then the hilt, and back and forth until the log splits. Much less energy is expended than swinging (and carrying) an axe.
 

RoninAmok

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Like I said, I live in a city. I can't store enough ammo to defend against a 100,000 hungry hord. I'll have a better chance 200 miles away, where there is lots of fresh water, fish, deer & hogs.
I don't realisticly believe there will be very many people prepaired to bug out because of a solar flare. Where would they be running to or from? Most won't believe they are in trouble until things stop working. While most are starting to gather things together, I'll be long gone by then. 200 miles is a long way on foot. I don't believe I'll have much company where I'll be.

I only need to get thru the first 90 days or so, healthy. I'll survive on the food I brought with me & what I can forage around camp. After that there won't be many people left to fear. Everything left will be mine. I'll get some type of solar refigeration going & we're off!
I have 2 solar panels on my camper that will keep my refigerator cold. If it's working, I'm golden!

I'm very resourceful & have lived for extended periods off the grid before.
I believe the key to my survival is to get away from the population centers. A few hrs notice is all I need.
When you guy's are finished shooting each other & your food runs out, then what? Your stuck in a city full of dead people.
I can feed myself & my family just fine, it's the rest of you that I can't!

peace
doublejj


Ok you have a game plan and are possibly ahead. I'm going to point out something for you , assumptions such as " you guys" can get you into trouble. What makes you think that I'm in a city? Or for that matter anywhere freaking close to one? Do I *really* seem to you like someone who hasn't prepared? Which brings us to your assumption about domestic livestock , me now personally I just might kind of object to someone deciding that my livestock was suddenly "their's".

As regards NoRcal , just about *any* place that you can get a truck and camper in you'll run a chance of running into people , and it will be more so closer to the larger rivers and lakes.

And *if* you have a specifc location in mind have you given thought to prepping a park-n-conceal for your vehicle and a few trail caches on the way to a major cache within a days walk ( for you , everyone is different) of thay spot but **inacessible by vehicle**. And yeah I have several caches within easy walking distance of the house here just in case for some reason I have to grab a bugout pack and split form the house , which is quite unlikely , but best be prepared for.

In addition if you set caches you may well be seen often enough around to not raise eyebrows/suspicions when/if it became necessary to do all this. This is also a good way to preplace some stuff in case you have to leave the urban area in a BIG area and leave some stuff behind that you might need.
 

RoninAmok

Active Member
Drive 200 miles due North of San Francisco, & your at the base of Mt Shasta! No big city for many miles! Upper Sacramento river. You'll see 25 deer on a good day & the river is full of trout. Lots of hogs in the river bottoms. 300 sunny days a year. Come on up & find me!

peace
doublejj


Nah YOU come find *ME* , some of us don't have to drive to see Shasta. Now again , how far you going to get in? Want solitude then hump around to the East side.......want better weather , drop down into the Hat Creek watershed......better game too. But whatever you do stay the heck away from the Lake itself , or the bottom of the McCloud or Pitt arms.......
 

RoninAmok

Active Member
idk about the rest of canada, but you can't hunt with -06 in southern ontario. Buckshot or slugs only. You have to go way north (1000 km..?) to break out the hunting rifles. 7.62x51 is more popular than .30-06, which shouldn't be surprising, since the -06 was its immediate predecessor. We also can't hunt "big game" with .22LR, or any other rimfire.

Layering your gear is important, but so is weight. Usually people are in a group, and layering (via group pool) is more important in this case, because if something fails, the group can still function. Having backup emergency gear is lighter than carrying two axes, for example. Having a multiuse tool that acts as a shovel, pickaxe, hammer, axe, etc is ok as emergency backup.. But primarily I'd use my K-Bar and portable saw. You take a 2-3 foot "green/live" branch to use as a baton with the saw, then you fall a dead tree.. cut it up with the saw. Then using your knife, place it on top of a log u just cut and hammer it through with the baton.. hammer until knife is buried, then hammer the swedge, then the hilt, and back and forth until the log splits. Much less energy is expended than swinging (and carrying) an axe.

And how much will those laws saying " you can't" matter after a societal crash? On the wood , I just use a hatchet /hammer a folding bowsaw and plastic wedges for sorrta the same technique , broken more tha one knife doing things as you described.
 

RoninAmok

Active Member
LOL! you got me!
I'll see you in hell!

If I think I'll have time to get over the sierra's, the Walker river drainage would be another target for me.
Or possibly straight up the coast & hit the Russian or eel rivers, they have salmon.

peace
doublejj

Take a close look at the area way up behind Bass Lake and Shaver Lake , as regard the EEl the part you wnt is within the Yolla Bolly and the Marbles , the coast will be bad but pretty straight north out of Lake County would put you in the best part of the Eel watershed. Take a close look at the Ruth Lake area too.
 

doublejj

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I'm not worried about country locals, we'll make friends. It's those 1000's of unprepared people in the city, that worry me. You & I don't have anythng to fear from each other, we can pool together & survive. You & I will look at each other as resources.
I wouldn't go about taking things & think most stuff will be abandoned.
200 miles is too far for people to walk to get to us. That's the point of going that far. There won't be any ravaging hords, they will be in the cities.

peace
doublejj
 

neosapien

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I'm gonna wait it out in one of my 3rd floor apartments. Chainsaw off the deck so no one can enter without my raining bullets down from the high ground. Then after it's over I'll go manifest destiny everyone's abandoned shit.
 

JohnnyGreenfingers

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I'm gonna wait it out in one of my 3rd floor apartments. Chainsaw off the deck so no one can enter without my raining bullets down from the high ground. Then after it's over I'll go manifest destiny everyone's abandoned shit.
I'll find my way to you. I'll bring chicken tho.

I should also let it be known that when Hazard Gulch becomes the place to be, we're running it just like a club. Hot ones to the front of the line please.
 

neosapien

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I'll find my way to you. I'll bring chicken tho.

I should also let it be known that when Hazard Gulch becomes the place to be, we're running it just like a club. Hot ones to the front of the line please.
Well we can't repopulate the earth with ugly people now can we!!??? "We're the last people on earth, we need to make babies, want to fuck?" " I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last...shit I see what ya did there".
 

JohnnyGreenfingers

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Well we can't repopulate the earth with ugly people now can we!!??? "We're the last people on earth, we need to make babies, want to fuck?" " I wouldn't fuck you if I was the last...shit I see what ya did there".

HA! See you fucking bitch! I am the last person on Earth, now you HAVE to fuck me!!!! #WINNING redefined.
 

DelSlow

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If something serious happened I'd probably just stay at home. I live on an island, where am I going to bug-out to? Plus there's a stream close by, lot's of guppies, YUM.
 

JohnnyGreenfingers

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Man I could tear up some guppies right about now. A big ass guppy sandwich and a bowl of guppies with hot sauce to dip. Damn now I'm hungry.
 

RoninAmok

Active Member
I'm not worried about country locals, we'll make friends. It's those 1000's of unprepared people in the city, that worry me. You & I don't have anythng to fear from each other, we can pool together & survive. You & I will look at each other as resources.
I wouldn't go about taking things & think most stuff will be abandoned.
200 miles is too far for people to walk to get to us. That's the point of going that far. There won't be any ravaging hords, they will be in the cities.

peace
doublejj

In this you're preaching to the choir , and see it's that sort of philosophy that builds a " gulch" style community that literally becomes a symbiotic entity in times of crisis. This will inevitably be KEY to actual survival.


Ya gotta sleep sometime , nice to have someone watching your back. And the old adage somewhat modified , more hands make for lighter work.
 
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