Trying My Hand At Glass Pipe Making

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HashBrick

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Nice progression kitty, i instantly recognized your shop from youtube and TG lol. I'm gonna be running my lynx off a m-15 and holding tank here soon.
 

kindfarms420

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I dont know what a 50# tank is. Oxygen tanks are sold by the cubic foot (160cuft, 265 (K tank), 300 (T tank)). I use two 160cuft tanks. One tank lasts me 4 hours on the torch. You'll have to find them on craigslist or your local oxygen supply company. For Propane, BBQ tanks are fine. $20 at Home Depot. For every propane tank you go through, you'll go through 10 or 15 oxygen tanks first. You use very little propane in comparison to oxygen.

I cant recommend what torch you want to blow big or small pieces, but if you tell me what TYPE of big or small pieces you want to make, that can help a lot. The final product you desire will dictate what equipment you need. I do caution, if your looking to make "bongs", you wont be doing it on a hand torch any time soon, that's lathe territory ($10,000 for a good lathe and UP). The GTT Lynx that I recommended will do anything from pendants to mini bubblers. Its around $400. Its a starter torch, it isnt meant to play with the big boys. However, GTT torches sell USED for the same price as NEW, so you arent losing any $$ by trying the Lynx out and learning the ropes first. Then, you can step up to a GTT Mirage if you like ($1750) which is the torch that I use. I wont ever need a bigger torch. THere's no more heat that I could possibly need.

The kiln is pretty easy to pick out. Pick it out by 110v or 220v and then make sure its the size you want to hold all the shit you'd make in a day. When you do, that's the kiln you want. :) :) I wholeheartedly recommend Paragon kilns, they are the best durability and construction. You can choose AIM kilns instead, for about 25-30% less, with the appropriate quality loss too.

All the tools, glass, and other stuff you need you will need regardless of which torch or kiln you get. I think if your hearts into it it'll run you about $4000 to start.

Happy to help if you have any questions any time, too. Glass isnt hard, it just takes a lot of hours to learn each little technique. When you learn 10 techniques, you've made a pendant. 10 more techniques to learn and you can make a full spoon. etc etc etc.... :) Everything you make builds upon what you will be making next and evrything keeps coming out better every time.



What letter? I sat here five minutes trying to figure out what you mean, I'm way lost........ lol..... Sometimes my brain doesnt work.....

awesome thanks for your time i didn't know the oxygen tanks were measured like that the 50# tank i was thinking of was a 50# for co2 i didn't know if they were in the same kinda tank.. i will eventually want to making all sorts of stuff but im not dumb and i know its gonna take time for me to beable to blow bubblers and bongs so thanks for the info!!
 

researchkitty

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Nice progression kitty, i instantly recognized your shop from youtube and TG lol. I'm gonna be running my lynx off a m-15 and holding tank here soon.

Thanks! Your going to HATE the Lynx on a M-15 and a holding tank. I didnt want to rain Debbie Downer on the parade, but the Lynx needs THREE M-15's to run properly, and even then it'll be at around 80% and only 15psi of oxygen vs the 30psi that the torch likes.......... It'll at least give you some heat to learn, but you'll recognize the severe limitations very soon. The concentrator manufacturers really want you to think you can run it like tanked oxygen, and well, you wont.

(PS I had 3 M-15's and a Red Max, and it sucked)
 

researchkitty

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awesome thanks for your time i didn't know the oxygen tanks were measured like that the 50# tank i was thinking of was a 50# for co2 i didn't know if they were in the same kinda tank.. i will eventually want to making all sorts of stuff but im not dumb and i know its gonna take time for me to beable to blow bubblers and bongs so thanks for the info!!

No, it will take you much longer than that. You dont make bubblers and bongs with the same torch tools or equipment. Its totally different. Thats why I asked what you want to make........ Bongs require a lathe and special torches for them. $15k minimum to get started. Bubblers and hand pipes are done on a torch, thats called lampworking. If you buy the Contemporary Lampworking v1, v2, and v3, it explains a lot of this.

When I started I wanted to make bongs, too. But when was the last time you could hold an entire bong in your hand and spin it in a flame? Never. :) Thats why you need a lathe......
 

HashBrick

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Thanks! Your going to HATE the Lynx on a M-15 and a holding tank. I didnt want to rain Debbie Downer on the parade, but the Lynx needs THREE M-15's to run properly, and even then it'll be at around 80% and only 15psi of oxygen vs the 30psi that the torch likes.......... It'll at least give you some heat to learn, but you'll recognize the severe limitations very soon. The concentrator manufacturers really want you to think you can run it like tanked oxygen, and well, you wont.

(PS I had 3 M-15's and a Red Max, and it sucked)
Yeah that's what i meant when i said i recognized you from youtube and TG, your redmax m-15 setup. But, i figured you'd say something like this since a lot of your last posts on TG were about how you wished you went with a homefill setup instead and all that.
If i was in the position where i had to buy 3 m-15's (little over a G shipped) then the homefill route would be a no brainer, you can get the whole setup refurb'd for 1150 + shipping minus the whip and other little shit. I'm thinking i'll just get a homefill down the road and feed it with my m-15, now that they're only $360 shipped it wouldn't be much of a loss at all considering used 5 lpm machines go for about the same give or take, and i'll get plenty of use out of her before i get the homefill.

Sorry but 3 m-15's to get my lynx to only 80% is fallacy. I've had multiple people who own m-15's themselves and other concentrators tell me that 1 m-15 without a holding tank should get a lynx to 50%, and with a holding tank it should get me up to 80-90% no problem. So, two m-15's would run a lynx at 100% without a holding tank and three would run it perfectly without a holding tank, if not be overkill. Considering i run my torch at about 30% most of the time now besides for when i need real heat as to conserve oxy, i'll probably notice a slight difference but nothing huge. The only big things i've read about it being different than tanked is it reduces the shit out of your colors and it might breathe a little, which i'm hoping my holding tank will eliminate that for the most part.

It doesn't even really matter if the setup can run it at 100%, if you are running that top 10% you're pushing the capacity of the torch and should just look into getting a larger torch.
As far as 30 psi being what the torch likes, you can run it at whatever psi you want lol. GTT calls for 10-15 psi, so 30 psi is double what the manufacturer recommends. I'm not saying that it'll hurt the torch, i know it can easily handle it, but the lynx only needs 14-15 CFH/8-10 lpm to run at 100%.
All this said, i'm going to be running a 15 gallon holding tank minimum so i don't think i'm going to have any trouble getting my lynx to run at 90% with 1 m-15. I'm sure i'll be happy with it though, not having to pay $15 a T tank and luggin them bitches around will make a big difference.
 

researchkitty

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Rollitup was hacked and we lost a month of posts. I'll post some of the pictures back online this afternoon. Looks like we lost about 5 pages worth of posts............... Bad hackers, bad!
 

researchkitty

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That thread is still in toke n talk in some form or another, help me help fd...... And 50 posts sucks for you had so few to begin with! :) Perhaps start a grow journal here?! :)
 

researchkitty

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Spent the last few days moving the glass studio away from its current hot location to a cool location with better air flow. Holy smokes is glass heavy to move so much. The lathe is going on craigslist. :)
 

researchkitty

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...and finally some tutorials

How to coil pot glass
[youtube]HIFJu2E09b4[/youtube]

How to make a glass spoon out of the coil potted glass (two videos)
[youtube]eYOQbRaYXpo[/youtube]

[youtube]dS5aGQu3pRY[/youtube]

How to make an oil dish
[youtube]xBgVmNd_ZxI[/youtube]
 

researchkitty

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They are $9.97 at Wal-Mart, in the crafts section, originally intended to hold thread. Local lathe friends idea, they use it to prep ground joints on and it sits by the lathe so its faster.
 

dankshizzle

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I guess I'm gonna be shopping at wally world in the future then ... Looks like it holds the slides and domes perfect.
 

HashBrick

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Rollitup was hacked and 3 months of posts were lost. I didnt do anything to you. Quit being a dickhead and accusatory.

"not sure why someone would even do that"...... lol :(
Not trying to be a dickhead man, it was just the only thing that made sense to me since you're a mod. I joined less that a month ago.. why didn't my whole thread disappear? My bad though.. least i didn't lose 5 pages, that friggin sucks.
 
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