PAR T5/HPS DWC...FruityChronicJuice*BlueberryGum*BlueCheese* Autohobbit

matthebrute

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hey man hows that auto hobbit doing?

mine is about 8 in tall and starting to pop pistols!! hoping it goes through a little more stretch before it stops growing. i will be posting some pics tonight in my thread ill let ya know when
 

Undercover Cop

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Mine (and MTB's) were freebies from the Attitude. Mine is probably less than 3" tall but has 7-8 nodes! These T5's with a heavy blue spectrum give incredibly tight node distances, very short and stocky. Maybe a little slower growth than you might get from a HID but they're definately more compact and squatty. With an autoflower I dont know if that is necessarily good cuz she's already sportin' pistils also, I wouldnt be suprised if she finished at under 8" total! shit the cactus was under a foot tall from tip to bottom flower (under 14"total!) I wasnt expecting much of a yield from the hobbit, just something fun to play with while the bigger girls are growing and making me a few clones. Suprisingly she's the tallest of the 3 predigree beans, the blue?cheese is about 10days older and the other two are very healthy and squatty with tight nodes, just not growing as fast. We'll see how my new light combo works :)

Im gonna go play with them for abit, then take some pics for ya"ll. I already have a bunch of my new bulbs/ and pics of the blends. Stay tuned!
 

Undercover Cop

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PIC UPDATE FEB 13

Ok so I got alot going on. I got my FloraSuns and AquaticLife Roseate's. I really like the FloraSuns, Im not impressed with the Roseates. The Roseates dont publish their SPD's online, but proclaim 650nm all over, and the spd on their packaging shows a ripple in the 600-700 range but otherwise is relatively useless. To me, compared to other tubes they appear a plain flat white, they may have some 650nm in them but its likely VERY little/light. The FloraSuns look just like the AquaMedic PlantGrow's but for $8 a tube you cant go wrong.

I also moved my t5 panels around in preparation for a 16bulb t5 flower. I moved one 4bulb panel into the veg box and moved the 8bulb over to flower. I found a single bulb fixture at my hydroshop to use on the side for 5 total bulbs in veg. Then for flower I need to buy one more 4bulb panel, then Ill have 8 on top with 4 on each side. In the following pics, I plan to remove the Roseate's and swap in the PlantGrows, Ill prob use the Roseate's on the side with a RedSun, BlueWave and Bloom

Otherwise everything else is going well, just been making more bucket lids and more 5gal buckets to be ready for the swap to flower. The two I have in the flowering box now are in the old bubblejugs until I can get buckets ready. One is acting funky and growing crooked, but the other (although stretched abit from her short time under the 2 red suns) is showing female! So Ill be flowering her and the Hobbit for the next 2 months, then the other 3 start flower while their clones establish and veg :)

Ok pics!
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Flowering main panel (to be supplemented with 4 on either side)... top to bottom= Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun/Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun. Its amazing how different they look on camera, in person the Roseate's appear FLAT WHITE but they appear purplish here. So I wont discount them totally, but wont use them as a primary go-to bulb. Supplemental only.


DSC02433.jpg Veg main panel... (to be supplemented with a single blue Actinic on the side)... top to bottom= FloraSun, BlueWave, ReefWave, FloraSun. Again they look different on camera next to other bulbs. compare the bottom bulb from the flowering panel to the top bulb here, same bulb. they appear more blueish here, they are infact quite pink (other pics show it)

suprisingly the top panel in the pic below is a ReefWave/BlueWave just like the pic above is a BlueWave/ReefWave, but it has 6500k's on the outer two slots vs my new config using FloraSuns. Im sure it has to do with the camera's reception of different colors in the presence of other colors, I just think its funny how much more blue the ReefWave looks next to the FloraSun when it looks so Violet next to the 6500k's
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Here's the babies...
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Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?
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This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em :)

The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now
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Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue :)
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^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,CoralWave,Redsun,FloraSun

Its A Girl!!
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Notice how all the leaves are cupping upward, just soaking up all that light, literally sunbathing!!! They love it! Here's some more to show
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The Hobbit! and I was impressing myself with the macro's on my sony :) look at the node distance!
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mudminer

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Seems the "Hobbits" are living up to their name. Minus the hairy feet of course. (chuckle). Havent studied "autos" much. Are they pretty much all feminized? What light cycle are you guys running on them? Peace and pistils to all from east of the Mississpissi and south of the Mason-Dixon.
 

mudminer

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Hey Uc, any chance of a couple of up close and personals of your indica when you get those colas destalked?
 

matthebrute

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Mine (and MTB's) were freebies from the Attitude. Mine is probably less than 3" tall but has 7-8 nodes! These T5's with a heavy blue spectrum give incredibly tight node distances, very short and stocky. Maybe a little slower growth than you might get from a HID but they're definately more compact and squatty. With an autoflower I dont know if that is necessarily good cuz she's already sportin' pistils also, I wouldnt be suprised if she finished at under 8" total! shit the cactus was under a foot tall from tip to bottom flower (under 14"total!) I wasnt expecting much of a yield from the hobbit, just something fun to play with while the bigger girls are growing and making me a few clones. Suprisingly she's the tallest of the 3 predigree beans, the blue?cheese is about 10days older and the other two are very healthy and squatty with tight nodes, just not growing as fast. We'll see how my new light combo works :)

Im gonna go play with them for abit, then take some pics for ya"ll. I already have a bunch of my new bulbs/ and pics of the blends. Stay tuned!
.y auto hobbit has about 12 nodes, some of them are shitty smaller nodes so they wont yeild crap. about 8 decent nodes, i was contemplating LST on it to get a couple of tops out of the deal but im not sure seems to be growing well without any help from me and i just LST and busted the main stem on one of my bagseed plants :( the top seems to be withering away but im going to leave it be and hope the plant heals itself. the stem broke about 3/4 of the way through so it still has a small amount of meat to get them nutrients through to the top
 

matthebrute

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lights are looking badass man, i think we probally have the same amount of nodes on the hobbit just yours is a bit more bushy and short. i just popped my blueberry gum bean as well so right now we are growing 3 of the same strains (auto hobbit, blue cheese and blueberry gum) cant wait to see the turn outs and the difference given we are both using totally different systems (lights and medium)
 

Undercover Cop

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That sux about snapping the stem, The sativa I just harvested (only 20g cured) shot up 2ft in 2weeks and I tried to bend her over until she snapped, then threw a bunch of nanners so I had to segregate her and she ended up missing out on my TLC, then got harvested at 6weeks. The snapped stem ruined it all lol. I think Im gonna leave my hobbit untouched, Ive read they dont respond well to topping, and I LST only to deal with one that gets away from the rest. Ill be topping the rest of em to get some good sidebranching for clones. I wont clone the blue cheese, except maybe just for practice. But Im not %100 sure of the strain so Ill stick with the pedigree genetics from the tude.
 

matthebrute

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Seems the "Hobbits" are living up to their name. Minus the hairy feet of course. (chuckle). Havent studied "autos" much. Are they pretty much all feminized? What light cycle are you guys running on them? Peace and pistils to all from east of the Mississpissi and south of the Mason-Dixon.
i dont think they are all feminized. feminized autos are good if you want to just grow 1 here and there. if you want to do a mini SoG with autos then you would want regular seeds to breed them so you can have a unlimited supply of auto seeds. would be kinda stupid to pay the money to buy them every 2 months when you can just order a 10 pack of reg seeds and get a lifetime supply by breeding 1 of the females. it sucks to lose the bud but worth it in the long run.
 

matthebrute

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That sux about snapping the stem, The sativa I just harvested (only 20g cured) shot up 2ft in 2weeks and I tried to bend her over until she snapped, then threw a bunch of nanners so I had to segregate her and she ended up missing out on my TLC, then got harvested at 6weeks. The snapped stem ruined it all lol. I think Im gonna leave my hobbit untouched, Ive read they dont respond well to topping, and I LST only to deal with one that gets away from the rest. Ill be topping the rest of em to get some good sidebranching for clones. I wont clone the blue cheese, except maybe just for practice. But Im not 0 sure of the strain so Ill stick with the pedigree genetics from the tude.
i plan on cloning my blue cheese, frisian dew and blueberry gum for my perpetual, figure one of each every 2 weeks should be a nice perpetual grow. not going to kepp a mother plant going to just roll with the punches, i wont have shit for room on my veg cab once the Ultimate ScROG gets setup in the CFL box but that wont be for a while, im going to keep the tent as veg box as long as i can and flower out the bagseeed plants under CFL
 

Undercover Cop

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My Final Flowering Panel :) ahhh rosy perfection :) LED eat your heart out!

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FloraSun, RedSun, CoralWave, PlantGrow, FloraSun, RedSun, CoralWave, PlantGrow (top down)
 

overTHEman

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Yeah, Undercover! congrats on the awesome harvest. :weed:

Rest up and know we're looking forward to the smoke report.

Nice flower panel too.
 

mudminer

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Holy cola codpieces Batman. Youre altogether likely to get a nearly 5 oz. finished harvest out of a 14 in. plant. Thats effing amazing. Im gonna get me a prayer rug so I can lay it on the floor and pray in your general direction 4-6 times daily. Well done dude. No shit.
 

Undercover Cop

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Thanks man! I was wondering what kinda shrinkage you guys think I should normally expect to lose during drying. I think I remember reading that you should get about 1/3 your wet weight after cure... Sound about right? I had 2.2oz of popcorn off that sativa, that finished at .70oz cured. So it sounds about right, but this is the first time growing where I even took harvest weights.

My buddy, (*name withheld to protect the innocent*) helped me trim, and posed for the obligatory Ron Jeremy porno shot lol. Ty!
 

matthebrute

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haha ron jeremy, nugz look great man 1/3 is a estimate and depends on how dense the bud is, them popcorn buds arent dense so they do lose alot of weight but a nice dense bud wont lose as much (at least thats my theory)

have you been by my thread to check out my hobbit? its getting taller by the day. about 11" right now should be about 14-16" by the time it starts to bud and stops stretching. im up to 8 decent nodes (a few other shitty nodes but they wont be worth counting) im hoping to have 10 nodes for budding. i really was contemplating LSTing it before my time runs out but at this stage i dont want to fuck it up too bad. anyways stop by and check out my journal :)
 

mudminer

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Please excuse me for posting off topic but present activities seem to be encouraging me to share. So.... Submitted for your approval. Either an 8 or 16 oz. glass half full of ice. (I prefer the 16 oz.)1 part Cherry Brandy. (I prefer to make my own but store bought is fine.)3-4 parts (allow individual taste to prevail) of fav. OJ.Top off with Ginger Ale.Its my version of a drink called "Bloody Sand". It includes 1 part Scotch and no Ginger Ale. I call this a "Bloody Sunrise".One day Im going to try it with an infusion of about a quarter gram of very nice, citrussy tasting, bubble hash per fluid oz. of Cherry Brandy (7 grams per 750 ml.) Again, sorry for posting off topic but it really is quite the pleasant and "more-ish" tasting beverage. If anyone tries it I hope you enjoy. Im gonna make yet another one.Happy taste buds!
 

mudminer

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Thanks man! I was wondering what kinda shrinkage you guys think I should normally expect to lose during drying. I think I remember reading that you should get about 1/3 your wet weight after cure... Sound about right? I had 2.2oz of popcorn off that sativa, that finished at .70oz cured. So it sounds about right, but this is the first time growing where I even took harvest weights. My buddy, (*name withheld to protect the innocent*) helped me trim, and posed for the obligatory Ron Jeremy porno shot lol. Ty!
Yeah, 2/3 weight loss during dry/cure is just a generalized "something to go by" but its a fairly well accepted one. I personally wouldnt be surprised to see you with 4 1/2 ozs. +. Again.... well done dude. Im jealous.
 

Undercover Cop

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I just spent about 5hrs total writing and editing these 3 posts in the Club T5 thread, if anyone has any questions about the principles behind PAR specific lighting or T5/fluoro spectrums, check these posts out. I would have pasted them here but they're reeeallly long (but very detailed) and have pics I already posted here.

Anyway, T5 and PAR growing for beginners... (was in response to others questions so they're adressing them)


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alphawolf.hack

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what up uc? im about to swap my 250w mh in veg with 6 bulb 2ft t5 fixture its an open area main grow area is 3x3 and then the sub area(3x1) is just for mothers you think this would be a good swap? got any good links to go shopping? (4x3area)
actualy its more like a 3x3 area and i was looking at the 8 bulb fixture too. whats the reach with these lights how far away can i go b4 it becomes infective for compact growth?
 
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