Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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Danielsgb
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Yep, I have learned from you. I'm glad I answered like you did. I did chuckle when I realized you just answered too.
Cramming 8 into a 3'x17" and also topping with a 3' ceiling is not a good idea to IMHO. Fitting 3 in that footprint is pushing it.
Hi all and most important UB.
Great thread I am upto page 220 nearly half way so I am sorry if this is a pain if I am repeating stuff again. I am now going ask my first question here.
I am growing new clones from my own mothers (sativa and indica) and I have seen it mentioned here how to get the plants back to growing the 2 matching nodes with 24 hr lighting. This is correct ?
So my main question is if this takes a few node's up to achive, am I correct to do this just take off a couple of the lower ones (these will change to roots) and transplant the plant futher down the pot and this will work or will the plant still think that its growing from a higher node e.g 5/6 ?
I thank you for you help and any advice.
ps. I am still reading the thread to the finish
Great thread I am upto page 220 nearly half way so I am sorry if this is a pain if I am repeating stuff again. I am now going ask my first question here.
I am growing new clones from my own mothers (sativa and indica) and I have seen it mentioned here how to get the plants back to growing the 2 matching nodes with 24 hr lighting. This is correct ?
So my main question is if this takes a few node's up to achive, am I correct to do this just take off a couple of the lower ones (these will change to roots) and transplant the plant futher down the pot and this will work or will the plant still think that its growing from a higher node e.g 5/6 ?
I thank you for you help and any advice.
ps. I am still reading the thread to the finish
baseball8008
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baseball8008
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If my grow is a failure, I will let you know for sure, as it seems you would be delighted.
If it is successful, I will let you know too.
Nice attitude old man!
Uncle Ben
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You wanted my opinion and now you're not happy with some facts? Any one thinking about starting a seed with a 12/12 photoperiod doesn't know what they are doing.
Look people, I'm gonna say this again. DO NOT come in here with basic cultural questions, I just don't have the time nor patience to deal with noobs that have never grown a plant before, as reflected by your lack of plant anatomy, growth processes, etc., speculation regarding the "what ifs". Also, if you haven't read the first page, then don't waste my/our time.
There, you've been schooled regarding my boundaries.
UB
bowlfullofbliss
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baseball8008
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Fair enough and honestly you aren´t schooling anyone dude! I have done extensive farming in the agricultural business and I learned that through generations, Marijuana will not be a challenge for me.
Try growing 70 acres of cassava and pineapple for a living, that´s school and I was schooled at home.
Good Luck.
BB.
baseball8008
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I am not even going to bother on commenting on your remark.meanie................
Poor nubes......no one loves them.
Cheers!
BB.
Man I cant believe my luck.
I thought I would risk asking my question and hope to not piss you or anyone else on this site. But i cant believe I got caught in the middle of that cheers Baseball.
Dude if you dont listen to people like UB why come to this site, Plus go read one of the growing books cause man you are never going to make it to the end. This will save you alot of time and money. I not trying to be smart with you Baseball just saying you will be thanking yourself for doing it.
Peace Bro
I thought I would risk asking my question and hope to not piss you or anyone else on this site. But i cant believe I got caught in the middle of that cheers Baseball.
Dude if you dont listen to people like UB why come to this site, Plus go read one of the growing books cause man you are never going to make it to the end. This will save you alot of time and money. I not trying to be smart with you Baseball just saying you will be thanking yourself for doing it.
Peace Bro
baseball8008
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QUOTE=rmc31;7122173]Man I cant believe my luck.
I thought I would risk asking my question and hope to not piss you or anyone else on this site. But i cant believe I got caught in the middle of that cheers Baseball.
Dude if you dont listen to people like UB why come to this site, Plus go read one of the growing books cause man you are never going to make it to the end. This will save you alot of time and money. I not trying to be smart with you Baseball just saying you will be thanking yourself for doing it.
Peace Bro[/QUOTE]
HI RM,
If I came here for help was because I thought people like UB will be able to help and not be smart with me, to use your own words, I do not appreciate that but now that I know UB boundaries I know he is not willing to help new growers, fine with me. I can only blame myself.
I have done extensive research over the past 8 months (definitely not as much as one can achieve in 40 years of growing), read multiple books on line and off line, including Ryan Riley´s Growing Elite Marijuana but the subject of topping for 4 colas has only been covered by UB so I thought he would be the right person for guidance, again, my mistake, everyone here in RIU has been extremely helpful and has helped me a lot throughout my first grow never thought UB would take that stance towards my inquiries.
I am sure that topping for 4 colas and selective trimming to eliminate side branching I can produce 8 healthy plants (SOG) in my cabinet and just focus on those 4 colas per plant, 32 colas in total, even if they are not fat ones I am sure I can maximize yield that way. I have very good genetics, Sensi Big Bud, Casey Jones by head seeds and Heavy Duty Frutty by TH seeds, all heavy yielders.
I am on the 4th week of flowering of my first grow (I really felt insulted by UB when he assumed I had never grown a plant in my life, thinking that if it is not done his way, then it would be a failure) and even though my plants are not the best looking plants I am sure I will make it to the end of my first grow as buds are forming nicely, but I know for a fact I have made a few mistakes and most likely will continue to make mistakes, just not the same ones again. I also did a lot of experimenting which affected the overall health of my plants.
I am sure my second one will be even better and will definitely be using UB technique to top for 4 colas, not sure yet if I will veg the plants or not or how long I will be vegging. The number of plants and space has been well researched as well as the advance techniques I will be using on my next grow to maximize yield. Like I said, I will continue to make mistakes, just not the same ones again.
In any case, In the future I will be very cautious about who to ask help to in order to avoid all this, I am too old for this shit and I am too nice with people to be treated with disrespect or to be patronized by people who has never grown the amount of stuff I have grown in my life.
Cheers and thanks for your advice!
BB.
I thought I would risk asking my question and hope to not piss you or anyone else on this site. But i cant believe I got caught in the middle of that cheers Baseball.
Dude if you dont listen to people like UB why come to this site, Plus go read one of the growing books cause man you are never going to make it to the end. This will save you alot of time and money. I not trying to be smart with you Baseball just saying you will be thanking yourself for doing it.
Peace Bro[/QUOTE]
HI RM,
If I came here for help was because I thought people like UB will be able to help and not be smart with me, to use your own words, I do not appreciate that but now that I know UB boundaries I know he is not willing to help new growers, fine with me. I can only blame myself.
I have done extensive research over the past 8 months (definitely not as much as one can achieve in 40 years of growing), read multiple books on line and off line, including Ryan Riley´s Growing Elite Marijuana but the subject of topping for 4 colas has only been covered by UB so I thought he would be the right person for guidance, again, my mistake, everyone here in RIU has been extremely helpful and has helped me a lot throughout my first grow never thought UB would take that stance towards my inquiries.
I am sure that topping for 4 colas and selective trimming to eliminate side branching I can produce 8 healthy plants (SOG) in my cabinet and just focus on those 4 colas per plant, 32 colas in total, even if they are not fat ones I am sure I can maximize yield that way. I have very good genetics, Sensi Big Bud, Casey Jones by head seeds and Heavy Duty Frutty by TH seeds, all heavy yielders.
I am on the 4th week of flowering of my first grow (I really felt insulted by UB when he assumed I had never grown a plant in my life, thinking that if it is not done his way, then it would be a failure) and even though my plants are not the best looking plants I am sure I will make it to the end of my first grow as buds are forming nicely, but I know for a fact I have made a few mistakes and most likely will continue to make mistakes, just not the same ones again. I also did a lot of experimenting which affected the overall health of my plants.
I am sure my second one will be even better and will definitely be using UB technique to top for 4 colas, not sure yet if I will veg the plants or not or how long I will be vegging. The number of plants and space has been well researched as well as the advance techniques I will be using on my next grow to maximize yield. Like I said, I will continue to make mistakes, just not the same ones again.
In any case, In the future I will be very cautious about who to ask help to in order to avoid all this, I am too old for this shit and I am too nice with people to be treated with disrespect or to be patronized by people who has never grown the amount of stuff I have grown in my life.
Cheers and thanks for your advice!
BB.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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UB how are u man? hope all is well..
when u use ur high in N slow release food...how do u feed?(just put in soil or put in water) and how much do u add(5ml)etc??
i am going to run this next run for super healthy green foilage along with dyna grow as u and homebrewer suggested
i was wondering how much dyna grow u would feed to? and what product from DG do u use?
thanks so much UB ive followed almost ALL of ur posts !!
Uncle Ben
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Everything is geared on the total nutritional value of the soil. In general, I use 1 tsp per 1 gallon pot of a slow release 18-4-9 mixed in the top inch of soil. You need to develop your own program.
UB
Thedillestpickle
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I didnt think UB was being mean... just setting you straight on some basics of how to grow a cannabis plant. But please do update us on the progress, I can imagine your method would work in its own way by creating very short plants allowing you to keep the lights very close. I would use flourecents for your technique as it will be even lighting and you can get them right on top of the plants, and I definatey wouldnt go without some veg time as a plant in 12/12 will not veg for very long and little growth will occur between the time you top and the time that flowering begins.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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thanks ben
come on uncle ben i have my own program of course im not going to flower u nutrient for nutrient which ones do u buy from dg ?
poind3xter
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I just wanted to make a post in the 420th page of a thread on RIU. Rock on people!
Thedillestpickle
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210 pages by my 20 post per page count... Half way there! haha
I applaud your ability to keep up with this thread UB, truly you have patience.
Kush Sour I believe what is generally recommended as far as DG goes is the Bloom Foliar and the Protekt.
You don't need grow if you use foliar in the right ratio you'll get good NPK values. and the Protekt is a silica product, not sure if it has anything else in it, but you could always buy another lines silica product as long as it contains potassium silicate its the same thing
buy some magnesium sulfate(epsom salt), and a calcium additive and you should be totally set as far as your base nutes go. Additives are another thing... but from rigorous reading here on RIU and other sites I am beginning to conclude that additives arent needed.... amazing results can be had with the right ratio of nutrients and a dialed growing environment(from what I'm seeing anyways)
I'm pretty stoked to start using the DG bloom now that I'm in 12/12, I have this tingly feeling that good things are about to happen
I applaud your ability to keep up with this thread UB, truly you have patience.
Kush Sour I believe what is generally recommended as far as DG goes is the Bloom Foliar and the Protekt.
You don't need grow if you use foliar in the right ratio you'll get good NPK values. and the Protekt is a silica product, not sure if it has anything else in it, but you could always buy another lines silica product as long as it contains potassium silicate its the same thing
buy some magnesium sulfate(epsom salt), and a calcium additive and you should be totally set as far as your base nutes go. Additives are another thing... but from rigorous reading here on RIU and other sites I am beginning to conclude that additives arent needed.... amazing results can be had with the right ratio of nutrients and a dialed growing environment(from what I'm seeing anyways)
I'm pretty stoked to start using the DG bloom now that I'm in 12/12, I have this tingly feeling that good things are about to happen
boneheadbob
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You have exposed yourself as a know it all newbie who is too immature to process constructive criticism. I did not really grasp the issue untill I was about 22. Some people grow old and never get it.
Never allow your feelings to cloud your judgement and do not let people rent space in your head.
Uncle Ben
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I only have Foliage Pro.
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