Experienced Electrician! Here to Answer Any and All Growroom Electrical Questions

phillipchristian

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it says .8 amps right on the sticker. 92 watts was not just a guess, that is correct.



soil
Actually you are wrong Wyteboi. That picture is a picture of the fan like Thedillestpickle said. That sticker is only for the rating of the fan. There isn't a dehumidifier in the world that only runs on .8amps or 92watts. You may have gotten the calculation close but if you had any knowledge of real electrical you would have known your answer was wrong in a heartbeat.

Judging from the size of it I would think you are safe assuming it's 1000 watts.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
Yep indeed! "Volts times Amps equal Watts", s-o-o-o-o 115 (volts) X .8 (amps)= 92 (watts).
This is a thread for people who are looking for help from liscensed electricians or people who actually know what they are talking about. If you guys don't know for sure then don't go telling people crap just so you can act like you know it all. You're gonna burn someone's house down.
 

mrmadcow

Well-Known Member
lol the fan burns 92 watts alone! The compressor no doubt uses alot more than the fan.
If I can't get an answer/educated guess, I will just have to assume that it burns 1500watts and play it safe running on its own breaker. I wouldn't even know where to begin to guess
you are correct that it will draw more. UL requires a label on every electric devise showing its current draw. if the tag is gone from the back of the unit, you might be able to find a tag on the compressor. add it to the draw from the fan to get your total.I would guess from the size of it, you will be about 10 amps.


This is a thread for people who are looking for help from liscensed electricians or people who actually know what they are talking about. If you guys don't know for sure then don't go telling people crap just so you can act like you know it all. You're gonna burn someone's house down.
while you are correct this time, Wyteboi is a regular around here & often helps out people.just read a few pages of this thread.it was a simple mistake. no need to be a dick about it. :finger: :finger:
 

mrmadcow

Well-Known Member
Any input you have would be great i dont have anyone to run it by besides reading it out of a book or online,THANKS BROTHER,FW
bricktown hasn't been here for a while but others have filled in for him.
it sounds like you have the 110 stuff down.I would run a dedicated 110,20 amp line for the t5s.
for the 220 lines,romex will work fine.12 gauge(12/3) will work for a 20 amp circuit but you will need 10/3 romex(10 gauge 3 conductor +ground) for up to a 30 amp circuit. it wont hurt to run 10/3 for all the 220 circuits to save buying 25 feet of 12/3 and 150 of 10/3. just dont run smaller than 10 gauge for any circuits over 20 amps
as for the lights on a flip/flop circuit, are you running 4 1k ballasts that flip from 1 light to the other or 8 ballasts that have 4 powered and flip to the other 4? reason I ask is that if you are running 4 ballasts, most manufacturers recomend an hr a day cool off time for the ballast. running them 24/7 will shorten their life.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
you are correct that it will draw more. UL requires a label on every electric devise showing its current draw. if the tag is gone from the back of the unit, you might be able to find a tag on the compressor. add it to the draw from the fan to get your total.I would guess from the size of it, you will be about 10 amps.



while you are correct this time, Wyteboi is a regular around here & often helps out people.just read a few pages of this thread.it was a simple mistake. no need to be a dick about it. :finger: :finger:
I think we all appreciate the help that so many people give on this forum. I have used it many times for advice and I've also given out plenty of advice. The problem is MrMadCow that we aren't talking about what ballasts to use or how to veg your plants. This is a thread about electricity. If you don't know what you are talking about you can burn someone's house down or worse get someone killed. If you aren't experienced enough in the matter to realize no dehumidifier runs on 92watts then you shouldn't be giving advice like Wyteboi did on the subject let alone coming back and trying to claim you are correct when someone else has already proven that you are wrong. I am an electrician and this stuff is dangerous. It doesn't matter how many times you have helped people on this forum or how long you've been around; someone could have gotten hurt with Wyteboi's advice and that's not cool. The fact of the matter is that anyone with a basic knowledge of electricity could have spotted that from a mile away which leads me to believe that Wyteboi doesn't have a basic knowledge and shouldn't be commenting or acting like he knows what he's talking about.
 

mrmadcow

Well-Known Member
I will stand by my statement, telling someone to use a penny for a fuse or just swapping to a bigger breaker is dangerous & could cause a fire & would deserve your response.I have chewed out people for stupid shit like that but in this case,the worst that could happen is a popped circuit breaker so I still think you are being a DICK! now why dont you piss off before you drive away a valued member of this community.
Bricktop now lurks & doesn't particpate often because he got tired of dealing w/ dicks, are you trying to do the same to another valued member? try a little civility,people won't respect you otherwise.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
I will stand by my statement, telling someone to use a penny for a fuse or just swapping to a bigger breaker is dangerous & could cause a fire & would deserve your response.I have chewed out people for stupid shit like that but in this case,the worst that could happen is a popped circuit breaker so I still think you are being a DICK! now why dont you piss off before you drive away a valued member of this community.
Bricktop now lurks & doesn't particpate often because he got tired of dealing w/ dicks, are you trying to do the same to another valued member? try a little civility,people won't respect you otherwise.

Why don't you go away assclown. It would have been one thing to claim to know something but then to come back after you are proven wrong and still claim that you are right is pure stupidity. No one really cares what you think about the moral issue or my edicate. People are looking for solid advice and an open discussion with informed persons. Of which you are neither. If I piss of someone who is giving out wrong information then so what. Plus; if you knew shit about electricity you would know that the worst thing that could happen with that advice is not a blown fuse or tripped breaker. They could have used an undersized cable which would overheat and then start a fire. So, if you don't like the way I word my threads and responses or you just don't like me no one really cares. Go ask some of the people that I have helped or taken the time to actually talk to on the phone for a few hours and walk them through installations. Just cause you have nothing better to do then trove this forum trying to pick fights with people on the web doesn't mean I give 2 shits what you think. Go buy yourself a clue pal.
 

ZoeO

Member
Wow... nice set up you've made...
I'm an amateur in this and have some questions 4 u :
Can I use a cheap light-dimmer for an air-extractor (320/800m3/hr) to reduce noise?
Can I use a 600w Hps with a 400w starter?

Thanks for your advice
Zoe from Paris
 

roidrage152

Active Member
The dimmers actually do work for fans, but they are only reccomended for the fast start kind. If you have the slow start kind it actually will reduce the life of the fan. For about 20 bucks you can get a rotor speed controller and that works on fans as well, but same issue with reduced fan life for the slow start kinds. I do personally actually use one sometimes though. If you are worried about noise, a carbon filter on one end and duct on the other quiets even my loudest cheapest fans.

In regard to using a 600w bulb on a 400w starter, its definitely not reccomended. It might work, but I doubt you would get any better light out of the bigger bulb.
 

wyteboi

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Actually you are wrong Wyteboi. That picture is a picture of the fan like Thedillestpickle said. That sticker is only for the rating of the fan. There isn't a dehumidifier in the world that only runs on .8amps or 92watts. You may have gotten the calculation close but if you had any knowledge of real electrical you would have known your answer was wrong in a heartbeat.
ok your right fuck . are you serious? i will admit to reading the sticker right an not putting 2 an 2 together. i should have paid more attention to the post before agreeing on the 90 watts.

i will firmly admit to under reading , something i never do.
my mistake has nothing to do with my knowledge. i am an electrician , i am not licensed and if your from the states you know why. it was a simple mistake an the second you called me out i seen what i did wrong. no big deal.

This is a thread for people who are looking for help from liscensed electricians or people who actually know what they are talking about. If you guys don't know for sure then don't go telling people crap just so you can act like you know it all. You're gonna burn someone's house down.
then this guy simply states volts x amps = watts , an he dont know what hes talkin bout either ? if you cant agree with that statement , you are not qualified to be in my thread.
an if you cant handle a mistake by a bunch of potheads then your are not in the right place. this is rollitup , queen of kids like yourself.

If your not man enough to just say hey soil you made a mistake then why are you here? i wouldnt have argued facts , i would have said thank you for pointin out my fuck up. now your just goin on the list of rollitup babies. oh an dont call me names no more either. thats un called for.






soil
 

wyteboi

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Why don't you go away assclown. It would have been one thing to claim to know something but then to come back after you are proven wrong and still claim that you are right is pure stupidity. No one really cares what you think about the moral issue or my edicate. People are looking for solid advice and an open discussion with informed persons. Of which you are neither. If I piss of someone who is giving out wrong information then so what. Plus; if you knew shit about electricity you would know that the worst thing that could happen with that advice is not a blown fuse or tripped breaker. They could have used an undersized cable which would overheat and then start a fire. So, if you don't like the way I word my threads and responses or you just don't like me no one really cares. Go ask some of the people that I have helped or taken the time to actually talk to on the phone for a few hours and walk them through installations. Just cause you have nothing better to do then trove this forum trying to pick fights with people on the web doesn't mean I give 2 shits what you think. Go buy yourself a clue pal.
look you piece of shit, you called out the mistake. what is all the name callin an hate for ? read the fuckin thread , i never tried to say you was wrong , no one did. cow even went as far as to say you were right? when im wrong im wrong , i wont argue with that. and i didnt.

you found a mistake in a post I made , but then you went on to call 2 other people names because of it. then you claim none of us has any knowledge because I made a simple mistake. thats plain childish. an you know it.

if you get that upset because someone made a mistake you got issues none of us can help you with.


if you want to help then help an keep your mouth out of it.




soil
 

phillipchristian

New Member
look you piece of shit, you called out the mistake. what is all the name callin an hate for ? read the fuckin thread , i never tried to say you was wrong , no one did. cow even went as far as to say you were right? when im wrong im wrong , i wont argue with that. and i didnt.

you found a mistake in a post I made , but then you went on to call 2 other people names because of it. then you claim none of us has any knowledge because I made a simple mistake. thats plain childish. an you know it.

if you get that upset because someone made a mistake you got issues none of us can help you with.


if you want to help then help an keep your mouth out of it.




soil
First off Wyteboi, when did I call you a name? Show me where in that first post I called you a name. And the only reason I started with MadCow was cause he started to with me for absolutely no reason. That's why the two posts are seperate. The first one you quoted (my first post on the thread) was simply stating that you were wrong. The only reason that I said that about "knowing about electricity" was because after that guy stated you were wrong and that it ws a picture of the fan you came right back and told him that you were right.

Now show me 2 people I have called names? I called MadCow an ass clown cause he's off rambling about how I need to go away. You wanna get in the middle of my argument with him go right ahead. What are you, his mother?

Yes I am from the U.S. No I don't understand how you can be an electrician but not be certified.

No I didn't get upset when I posted those first 2 comments. I was just stating that you were wrong in the first one and then stating something general that was not directed at you in the second one. Maybe you should go read them again.

I'm not getting in a pissing contest with you two guys over a fucking online forum designed to help people. You guys are idiots. Go start shit with someone who cares.
 

alphawolf.hack

New Member
yo ma let it go wyteboi has been here for years and knows his shit about electric. just let it go. if i was to trust anyone's electrical advice it would be his and this is where i would come to get.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
yo ma let it go wyteboi has been here for years and knows his shit about electric. just let it go. if i was to trust anyone's electrical advice it would be his and this is where i would come to get.
Doesn't matter if you've been here for 10 years or for 1. An idiot is an idiot.

Good thing it wasn't you that asked about the dehu then...would have wired your room wrong and maybe fried your unit.
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
yo ma let it go wyteboi has been here for years and knows his shit about electric. just let it go. if i was to trust anyone's electrical advice it would be his and this is where i would come to get.
again ... just let it go.

everyone makes mistakes including you.

you asked me , how could i be an electrician without a license, you said nothing about being certified. i am the same kind of electrician as you are , one without a masters license.

i am here to help , i made a mistake , and i am still gonna be here to help. WE have successfully hooked up many rooms/devices on this thread. no one has been hurt ..... if a mistake is made then hopefully the next man would catch it , just like you did. i am positive cow would not have let him run speaker wire to a humidifier.

no matter if i made a mistake , i still know my shit and will continue to help. if you wanna play games like this we can start another thread an run my knowledge against yours, but this aint the place for it.





soil
 

phillipchristian

New Member
again ... just let it go.

everyone makes mistakes including you.

you asked me , how could i be an electrician without a license, you said nothing about being certified. i am the same kind of electrician as you are , one without a masters license.

i am here to help , i made a mistake , and i am still gonna be here to help. WE have successfully hooked up many rooms/devices on this thread. no one has been hurt ..... if a mistake is made then hopefully the next man would catch it , just like you did. i am positive cow would not have let him run speaker wire to a humidifier.

no matter if i made a mistake , i still know my shit and will continue to help. if you wanna play games like this we can start another thread an run my knowledge against yours, but this aint the place for it.





soil
Fair enough. I was never trying to start anything with you. Just didn't understand why Cow felt like he needed to get involved and then tell me to go away after all I did was correct a simple mistake you made. He's the one who jumped all over me first.
 
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