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Ca Deficiency. What is cheap that I can use as calcium?

nubbis1020

Active Member
so not one of your nutrients has Ca in it??? wtf
Yeah...lmao that is what I said when I looked at them closely....a huge fail on buying them...probably my fault mostly for not looking closely at them when I bought it. Going to have to get something else..wait a second. There are these little nutrient packets I have, that came with the aerogarden. They have the following N-P-K: 4-3-6 It has 4% Nitrogen, 3% Phosphate, 6% Potash, 1% calcium, 0.5% Magnesium, and 0.5% sulfur. Organic too.
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
Yeah...lmao that is what I said when I looked at them closely....a huge fail on buying them...probably my fault mostly for not looking closely at them when I bought it. Going to have to get something else..wait a second. There are these little nutrient packets I have, that came with the aerogarden. They have the following N-P-K 4-3-6 It has 4% Nitrogen, 3% Phosphate, 6% Potash, 1% calcium, 0.5% Magnesium, and 0.5% sulfur. Organic too.
bingo there you go Ca for now til you get a nute(bloom preferred) with Ca in it..haha
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yes, but so little calcium. Ideally you want 100 to 200 ppm Ca ion in your veg nute solution, or an even amount with N. cn
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
bingo there you go Ca ..haha
So you think I should start adding these? Should I stop with the Fox Farm Big bloom? Or combine both? lol...sorry about all the questions man. Just trying to get a good opinion on this. I just changed my water today too and used only the Fox Farm Big Bloom nutes. Which doesn't help I guess seeing as how there is no calcium and that is what I need. So should I change my water in reservoir yet again tomorrow and well add the other nutes that actually have calcium.
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
So you think I should start adding these? Should I stop with the Fox Farm Big bloom? Or combine both? lol...sorry about all the questions man. Just trying to get a good opinion on this. I just changed my water today too and used only the Fox Farm Big Bloom nutes. Which doesn't help I guess seeing as how there is no calcium and that is what I need. So should I change my water in reservoir yet again tomorrow and well add the other nutes that actually have calcium.
supplement the packs with the bloom...eliminate the grow formula
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
Yes, but so little calcium. Ideally you want 100 to 200 ppm Ca ion in your veg nute solution, or an even amount with N. cn
That is true...but it's better than nothing? I don't have anything with calcium other than that until I can buy some Cal mag. Which could be a week at tops. I'm broke as fuck at the moment. So I hope you can understand my situation.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That is true...but it's better than nothing? I don't have anything with calcium other than that until I can buy some Cal mag. Which could be a week at tops. I'm broke as fuck at the moment. So I hope you can understand my situation.
I do. Unfortunately I cannot recommend a cheap, generally-available household product that will give you calcium ion without all sorts of weed toxins along for the ride. cn
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
I do. Unfortunately I cannot recommend a cheap, generally-available household product that will give you calcium ion without all sorts of weed toxins along for the ride. cn
Lucky you then. I'm just going to use the other nutes with the small amount of calcium. I know it's a little, but I see it being better than depriving my plant of calcium all together. Just until I can get cal mag. I agree with the part you say about a household product having other toxins in it. Someone was talking about using tums in another thread. I scrolled down and saw a bunch of people saying there are other toxins in it. I went into the bathroom and looked at the bottle and sure enough there was calcium in it, along with other shit. I quickly tossed that idea out the window haha.
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
Solution to fixing a Calcium deficiency
To fix a calcium deficiency you can treat by foliar feeding with one teaspoon of dolomite lime or Garden lime per quart of water, Or Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have Calcium in them will fix a Calcium deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!)

Garden Gypsum, which is medium absorption. Limestone, which is medium absorption, Rock Phosphate and Animal wastes which are both medium/slow absorption.
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
supplement the packs with the bloom...eliminate the grow formula
That first part confuses me...sorry...stoned...lmao. Did you mean substitute? If so would you mean substitute the bloom for the packs? Or I can put it like this? Eliminate the grow big from the equation, along with the big bloom, and use the packs?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Actually Tums is the least bad thing I can imagine. the big problem is solubility, and the fact that it is a pH-up. If you use, oh, citric acid as your pH-down, Tums would be a very nice interim fix.
But you'll have to calculate Ca content per tab and do the conversion for an appropriate dose. How's your freshman chem?

Not sure I get the "lucky you then" comment. I am truly trying to help within your conditions. cn
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
Solution to fixing a Calcium deficiency
To fix a calcium deficiency you can treat by foliar feeding with one teaspoon of dolomite lime or Garden lime per quart of water, Or Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have Calcium in them will fix a Calcium deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!)

Garden Gypsum, which is medium absorption. Limestone, which is medium absorption, Rock Phosphate and Animal wastes which are both medium/slow absorption.
Animal waste eh? Hmmm I have a cat litter box? hahahhahahahahhahaa...oh god...
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
That first part confuses me...sorry...stoned...lmao. Did you mean substitute? If so would you mean substitute the bloom for the packs? Or I can put it like this? Eliminate the grow big from the equation, along with the big bloom, and use the packs?
add packs of nutes with bloom nutrient. don't use the grow for flowering... get a better bloom nutrient that has Ca in it.
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
Actually Tums is the least bad thing i can imagine. the big problem is solubility, and the fact that it is a pH-up. If you use, oh, citric acid as your pH-down, tums would be a very nice interim fix.

Not sure I get the "lucky you then" comment. I am truly trying to help within your conditions. cn
I mis-read :facepalm:
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
Actually Tums is the least bad thing I can imagine. the big problem is solubility, and the fact that it is a pH-up. If you use, oh, citric acid as your pH-down, Tums would be a very nice interim fix.
But you'll have to calculate Ca content per tab and do the conversion for an appropriate dose. How's your freshman chem?

Not sure I get the "lucky you then" comment. I am truly trying to help within your conditions. cn
My chem...is on a level of horrible to decent...somewhere in between. Never really fully understood chem. Not my best subject. Anyway. A serving size for tums is 2 tablets. Which would be 800mg/80% calcium. One tablet would be cutting it the serving in half to 400mg/40% (basic math) Should I go lower? Or is 400mg/40% good?
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
I agree with the part you say about a household product having other toxins in it. Someone was talking about using tums in another thread. I scrolled down and saw a bunch of people saying there are other toxins in it. I went into the bathroom and looked at the bottle and sure enough there was calcium in it, along with other shit. I quickly tossed that idea out the window haha.
his dilemma got worse from giving it ....people pills ;)
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
haha...hmm I keep looking at the back of the tums bottle and it actually is looking like not such a bad idea. The only two active ingredients in it are calcium and less than 1% magnesium. My dilemma got worse after adding epsom salt. More magnesium and less calcium just made the overall situation worse.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
My chem...is on a level of horrible to decent...somewhere in between. Never really fully understood chem. Not my best subject. Anyway. A serving size for tums is 2 tablets. Which would be 800mg/80% calcium. One tablet would be cutting it the serving in half to 400mg/40% (basic math) Should I go lower? Or is 400mg/40% good?
Actually, the active is calcium carbonate, which is 40% by weight Ca. So 800 mg CaCO3 yields 320 mg Ca. That's about right for one gallon of res.

I like the gypsum idea ... if you have some around. And I recommend AGAINST litterbox Poonutes. ;) cn
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
Actually, the active is calcium carbonate, which is 40% by weight Ca. So 800 mg CaCO3 yields 320 mg Ca. That's about right for one gallon of res.

I like the gypsum idea ... if you have some around. And I recommend AGAINST litterbox Poonutes. ;) cn
Yeah. I don't think I could go through with putting cat poop in my solution...I have heard of cat piss bud, but never cat shit bud. Gypsum...is that in drywall...? wtf
 
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