daveroller
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Will you have a section where I can bitch about Minnesota's cold weather and lack of a MMJ law?
Larry OG vs. Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (2nd Scrog)
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lordjin
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Yes. Absolutely.Will you have a section where I can bitch about Minnesota's cold weather and lack of a MMJ law?
inhaleindica
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People sometimes have too much pride to admit that the mites were their own fault. Even if it came from PO which I doubt it. They should be able to kill them off if they took the precaution, no matter what. They could be from the car or pets or even from your own shirt. People walk in and out of the place all day everyday.
daveroller
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There's one thing that's GOOD about cold Minnesota winters. No bugs are alive outside for a big portion of the year. Maybe I shouldn't bitch too much...
(The HIGH temp tomorrow will be -1° Fahrenheit, and it will be windy. Fuck if I'm going outside.)
Jin and Cheezy (and everyone) - I can say something to the effect of PO and bugs and such...because I have broad mites on the clones I got from PO. BUT!!! I DO NOT BLAME PO, I BLAME MYSELF!
Make no mistake, PO did admit they had a broad mite problem at the same time I got clones, and so the clones probably came with broad mites, I unfortunately took no preventative measures to make my plants clean before it got bad. Basically I've never had mites before so I wasn't really expecting it (dumb me)-
SO I blame myself because in hindsight I should have just sprayed them all down with something during veg to just avoid the problem completely, but I didn't (I'm sort of an amateur) and so I'm dealing with it now during flower and it sucks.
But again, I STILL LOVE PO because the genetics are so obviously better than anything I've grown. Although the yield is going to blow because of the broad mites, the quality of the bud is still a step above other dispensary clones in terms of trichome development. AND Jin you'll be happy to hear that for some reason the tahoe seems to be unaffected, and only the other two strains in my room have been hit with the broad mites. The tahoe looks soooo darn pretty, fat calyxes and such, so really not so bad after all!
All in all I take it to be a good lesson...I'll still get enough bud to make this grow worth while but I'll know next to time to just spray in veg, prevention is KEY-
Make no mistake, PO did admit they had a broad mite problem at the same time I got clones, and so the clones probably came with broad mites, I unfortunately took no preventative measures to make my plants clean before it got bad. Basically I've never had mites before so I wasn't really expecting it (dumb me)-
SO I blame myself because in hindsight I should have just sprayed them all down with something during veg to just avoid the problem completely, but I didn't (I'm sort of an amateur) and so I'm dealing with it now during flower and it sucks.
But again, I STILL LOVE PO because the genetics are so obviously better than anything I've grown. Although the yield is going to blow because of the broad mites, the quality of the bud is still a step above other dispensary clones in terms of trichome development. AND Jin you'll be happy to hear that for some reason the tahoe seems to be unaffected, and only the other two strains in my room have been hit with the broad mites. The tahoe looks soooo darn pretty, fat calyxes and such, so really not so bad after all!
All in all I take it to be a good lesson...I'll still get enough bud to make this grow worth while but I'll know next to time to just spray in veg, prevention is KEY-
lordjin
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inhaleindica
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Lol well said! Basically the only thing you would have to worry about would be PM and any cold related problems which could easily be fixed with a heater heh.
lordjin
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What are the early signs of broad mites? I've never experienced an insect problem in all my grows and I don't want to start. I've already got a mind to start proactive serenade treatments, but I haven't sprayed yet. What should I look out for?
Oh, rep for that comment.
inhaleindica
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Exactly, prevention is the key. I have had good results using Mighty Wash during the flowering stage with no ill effects. I had to battle with spider mites 2 weeks ago and they seem to be gone now what is left are the eggs which should be dead soon enough. Mighty wash did the job for me but I wouldn't reccomend using them no more then 2 weeks before harvest. I have heard and read some good reviews about azamax that could be used a day before harvest which I am afraid to do that ha.
A buddy of mine brought my White Rhino clones back and they came with spider mites rawr, but at least I got it in control. I hate those fuckers!
jojo2002
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Dont know about broad mites but spider mites are a little hecktic, but they leave small bleach like dots on leaves where they suck the nutes out of the leaves neem is an OK but preventive measures is the best treatment treat and expect your clones prior to bringing them into your grow area. I used Doktor Doom worked great but most importantly mites breed in high heat low humidity so as long as your temps and humidity is good breeding should be kept to a minimal. Than after your harvest bleach and water grow area and regrow.. btw jin i was wondering why you decided to do (2) 6" net pots vs (4) 3-4" net pots your still under the limit by law and you would veg less to fill up your scrog screen...
Well I didn't notice the broad mites until flower, and it basically makes the pistils start to die as soon as they pop out of the calyx. It's pretty sad looking, here's a pic of the white urkle at day 23 flower.
At least a couple people on a different site immediately identified it as broad mites just from the pic of the white urkle flower (a couple people said TMV but that was quickly shot down as being untrue/impossible)
edit: I should mention that I did verify the broad mites by seeing the eggs with my microscope, 30x and just barely able to see them, and after a long time looking at leaves for eggs I eventually saw a little guy run across the view of my microscope
Now I'm at day 39 flower and they still sort of look like that...I also have larry x bubba from PO which seems to also have the broad mites because they have basically never had any fresh pistils coming out of the flowers but are still growing trichomes (kind of confusing to me). The flowers are also extremely tiny, almost no growth in size after week 2 or so (I think another sign of broad mites). Here's a pic of the larry x bubba at day 29 flower, and despite the size it looks frosty enough for my standards (I might just make tons of BHO) so I'm not too angry overall-
And the tahoe seems fine for some reason!
At day 39 the flowers almost look like miniature versions of your last grow (keyword: almost), so I'm very excited!!!
At least a couple people on a different site immediately identified it as broad mites just from the pic of the white urkle flower (a couple people said TMV but that was quickly shot down as being untrue/impossible)
edit: I should mention that I did verify the broad mites by seeing the eggs with my microscope, 30x and just barely able to see them, and after a long time looking at leaves for eggs I eventually saw a little guy run across the view of my microscope
Now I'm at day 39 flower and they still sort of look like that...I also have larry x bubba from PO which seems to also have the broad mites because they have basically never had any fresh pistils coming out of the flowers but are still growing trichomes (kind of confusing to me). The flowers are also extremely tiny, almost no growth in size after week 2 or so (I think another sign of broad mites). Here's a pic of the larry x bubba at day 29 flower, and despite the size it looks frosty enough for my standards (I might just make tons of BHO) so I'm not too angry overall-
And the tahoe seems fine for some reason!
At day 39 the flowers almost look like miniature versions of your last grow (keyword: almost), so I'm very excited!!!
I forgot to mention any way to get rid of this, because I talked to the PO staff and got some info:
I can't remember if you already sprayed/dipped your clones, and if so just disregard the rest of this - I'm not trying to tell you what to do since you are LORDjin: but the PO staff made it seem like there were a number of products you can use in veg preventatively to be sure you don't have these (or any) critters. I didn't realize I had them until flower so I'm kind of screwed, I'm using Mighty wash and crossing my fingers.
But based on what they and others said, it's really easy to take care of in veg with stuff like neem-based products (or other oil-based sprays) and it gives you a nice protective layer. They also mentioned hotshot no pest strips if you want to really kill them dead, but I grow in my bedroom closet so I was worried about killing myself also. They were also talking about products like avid and forbid, but I think that's only if you know you have them because that stuff is serious and expensive-
Anyways I'm not saying you have them, I'm not sure how to tell during veg (other than with a good microscope and seeing the bumpy eggs), but I don't think spraying neem hurts anything during veg (please someone correct me if this is wrong)
I can't remember if you already sprayed/dipped your clones, and if so just disregard the rest of this - I'm not trying to tell you what to do since you are LORDjin: but the PO staff made it seem like there were a number of products you can use in veg preventatively to be sure you don't have these (or any) critters. I didn't realize I had them until flower so I'm kind of screwed, I'm using Mighty wash and crossing my fingers.
But based on what they and others said, it's really easy to take care of in veg with stuff like neem-based products (or other oil-based sprays) and it gives you a nice protective layer. They also mentioned hotshot no pest strips if you want to really kill them dead, but I grow in my bedroom closet so I was worried about killing myself also. They were also talking about products like avid and forbid, but I think that's only if you know you have them because that stuff is serious and expensive-
Anyways I'm not saying you have them, I'm not sure how to tell during veg (other than with a good microscope and seeing the bumpy eggs), but I don't think spraying neem hurts anything during veg (please someone correct me if this is wrong)
lordjin
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No, no... Please tell me what to do. I've never had bugs, so I'm a complete noob at signs and symptoms. I was very pleased with the performance of Serenade last time in my war with PM, and it's an all around pest control remedy that kills microbial nasties and critters of all types. So I'll give it a light spritz at some point before flowering.
Great stuff btw. Won't let me rep you again.
Edit:
I think little bugs have a tough time of it in my cab because the environment is so harsh. I can barely stand to stick my head in there for more than a few minutes, can you imagine a tiny bug? Even if a little fly or something gets in my cab, he doesn't last very long with all that bright and wind. It is NOT the same as being outside in the sun in your backyard. Bugs just dry right up and die. Very low humidity in there. Little spider mites can't handle my harsh, desert-like conditions, either. And it's all because I'm trying to mimick the conditions of the Afghan mountains... only I'm doing at sea level. Hence OG (Ocean Grown) Kush vs. Afghan or Hindu Kush. TA DA! More fine weed trivia!
lordjin
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This is Rainbow! Side project of Ritchie Blackmore and Roger Glover, guitarist and bassist for Deep Purple. Looks like they hired some kind of pervert to be their lead-singer, tho. Rock trivia too? How'd all this shit get in my head?
Now to the plants. They're pumping it out, huh?
And look at this bitch.
Dude, Larry's roots are powering on.
This is Rainbow! Side project of Ritchie Blackmore and Roger Glover, guitarist and bassist for Deep Purple. Looks like they hired some kind of pervert to be their lead-singer, tho. Rock trivia too? How'd all this shit get in my head?
Now to the plants. They're pumping it out, huh?
And look at this bitch.
Dude, Larry's roots are powering on.
billcollector99
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Beautiful healthy roots man.
I am subbed now.
Cant wait to see that screen full
How long till you flip the switch? Sorry if you already said in a prev. post.
I am subbed now.
Cant wait to see that screen full
How long till you flip the switch? Sorry if you already said in a prev. post.
billcollector99
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Jin are you in cali?
lordjin
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I'm not sure. That's the fun of each new grow! We decide as we go!Beautiful healthy roots man.
I am subbed now.
Cant wait to see that screen full
How long till you flip the switch? Sorry if you already said in a prev. post.
Yessir. Los Angeleez, California.
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