Millionaire ron paul flies first class on your tax dollars

deprave

New Member
done that. found no stories of grandmas in full compliance getting busted since the holder memo.

you are also forgetting how burden of proof works. he who makes the claim has the burden of providing evidence.
You suck at google....HUNDREDS of Marijuana raids have took place since the memo....

http://stopthedrugwar.org/trenches/2011/mar/29/28_raids_24_hours_tell_attorney


28 raids in 24 hours.That's the unfortunate reality for medical marijuana patients in Montana and California.Federal agents shutdown 26 dispensaries across Montana and 2 in the medical marijuana sanctuary city of West Hollywood, California this month in their latest attack on patients and legitimate businesses.
The DEA isn't even supposed to be conducting these raids in the first place. In 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder issued a memo ordering an end to federal raids of medical marijuana dispensaries. Yet, despite his memo, federal agents have continued these operations sporadically for years, without regard for patients', states' or business' rights.



I hope to god you aren't parading around thinking your immune since the "memo"


Most of the raids are happened in Colorado, Michigan, and Montana....California less so..but the IRS started working with them and thats a big part of it..also FEDS directed local authorities in many cases...Did you really not know all this?

and further...

What about the people in the non-medical marijuana states who are getting 30years to Life for small amounts of marijuana. You seem to be only concerned for yourself on this.

 

Sure Shot

Well-Known Member
i've asked for citation of this claim before and been blanked.
"DEA agents began clearing out the Medizen dispensary even before it opened for business Monday. Agents also raided Central Valley Caregivers Co-operative in Stockton about the same time.

A Medizen employee told News10 that his his manager and landlord were never notified by letter or by the federal government. The business was forced to shut down without warning."
News 10
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
yeah, i don't see any grandmas and i don't see anyting establishing that they were all in full compliance with state law.

that's the distinction, that's all the holder memo protects against. you have to be in full compliance with state law.

i am still happy to consider evidence if you actually have any.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So, Ron Paul is just a rich millionaire sucking on the tax tit, huh?
Well, let's compare the Dr. who gave free medical treatment to any and all of his patients on Medicare or Medicaid;
To, the "Silver Spooner" Willard M. Romney, that is worth a quarter billion, and pays 15% income tax on MILLIONS of dollars annually.
[youtube]Q2GXJi3j2h0[/youtube]

LOL.

once again, you want to talk about anyone and anything but ronald the millionaire in a thread dedicated to the old gnome.

deflection, thy name is [every ronald worshipper].
 

Sure Shot

Well-Known Member
yeah, i don't see any grandmas and i don't see anyting establishing that they were all in full compliance with state law.

that's the distinction, that's all the holder memo protects against. you have to be in full compliance with state law.

i am still happy to consider evidence if you actually have any.
"It is a city-licensed business, but that hasn't stopped the feds from moving in. Several weeks ago, federal prosecutors in California announced they plan on cracking down on medical marijuana dispensaries. Even though medical marijuana is legal in this state, it's still considered an illegal drug by the federal government. "
News 10
 

Sure Shot

Well-Known Member
LOL.

once again, you want to talk about anyone and anything but ronald the millionaire in a thread dedicated to the old gnome.

deflection, thy name is [every ronald worshipper].
Did you watch the video, or exercise ignorance and deflect with insults?
I'm pretty sure that Ron Paul guy was in there somewhere, compared monetarily to his closest competition.
 

Sure Shot

Well-Known Member
In honor of full disclosure, which I respect and try to achieve.
Here is some more fuel for your Ron Paul is a racist fire.
[youtube]dF9KQsi4Cj8[/youtube]
 

deprave

New Member
SMEAR DE-BUNKED


Ok the truth comes out about this now...even MSNBC RON PAUL HATER EXTRADORINAIRE Laurence O Donnell Defends Ron Paul and debunks this....The fact is Ron Paul actually does purchase the refundable COACH TICKET everytime...NOT 1ST CLASS TICKETS..http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word-with-lawrence-o'donnell/46034360#46034360

His tickets don't actually even cost 1 additional penny and he takes the same option as everyone else, he only gets to upgrade to first class sometimes because of frequent flyer miles. Laurnce says he really wanted to report on Ron Paul for being a hypocrit on this but unfortantely it is just not true and he pointed out that Ron Paul is the only consistent conservative.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
yeah, i don't see any grandmas and i don't see anyting establishing that they were all in full compliance with state law.

that's the distinction, that's all the holder memo protects against. you have to be in full compliance with state law.

i am still happy to consider evidence if you actually have any.
If you're in not in 100% compliance of state law, why isn't the state prosecuting? The state wants some action too. When a dispensary goes out of line, the state is more than happy to bust you.

It's all a big scam. How is Harborside within state or federal law? It's more about who you know, who can pay protection money and the ones they want examples made of. The Federal government is the new mafia. The Federal government has no rights regulating moral code. They get away with it because during WWII the asshole democrats got liberal shits into the Supreme Court who ruled the Feds had the right to prosecute interstate commerce even if for all personal use against a wheat farmer. All this because a gimp and haberdasher didn't give one shit about liberty and freedom. Because we were in a depression and war. That's called taking advantage during duress. It's time we took back the country those two warlords took it away. Those two men are the reason I 100% despise Democrats. I hate Nixon too. The only democrat I tolerate is Carter. He's just too funny. How can you not like a guy who uses an oar to beat the shit out of an alien swamp rabbit who tried to assassinate him?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
SMEAR DE-BUNKED


Ok the truth comes out about this now...even MSNBC RON PAUL HATER EXTRADORINAIRE Laurence O Donnell Defends Ron Paul and debunks this....The fact is Ron Paul actually does purchase the refundable COACH TICKET everytime...NOT 1ST CLASS TICKETS..http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word-with-lawrence-o'donnell/46034360#46034360

His tickets don't actually even cost 1 additional penny and he takes the same option as everyone else, he only gets to upgrade to first class sometimes because of frequent flyer miles. Laurnce says he really wanted to report on Ron Paul for being a hypocrit on this but unfortantely it is just not true and he pointed out that Ron Paul is the only consistent conservative.
congratulations.

carne and i went over this fact 25 or so posts ago.

late to the party, are we?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
If you're in not in 100% compliance of state law, why isn't the state prosecuting? The state wants some action too. When a dispensary goes out of line, the state is more than happy to bust you.

It's all a big scam. How is Harborside within state or federal law? It's more about who you know, who can pay protection money and the ones they want examples made of. The Federal government is the new mafia. The Federal government has no rights regulating moral code. They get away with it because during WWII the asshole democrats got liberal shits into the Supreme Court who ruled the Feds had the right to prosecute interstate commerce even if for all personal use against a wheat farmer. All this because a gimp and haberdasher didn't give one shit about liberty and freedom. Because we were in a depression and war. That's called taking advantage during duress. It's time we took back the country those two warlords took it away. Those two men are the reason I 100% despise Democrats. I hate Nixon too. The only democrat I tolerate is Carter. He's just too funny. How can you not like a guy who uses an oar to beat the shit out of an alien swamp rabbit who tried to assassinate him?
his brother brewed some, er, unique beer from what i hear as well. a bit before my time though.

your analysis is dead on. they have been busting those not in compliance in a very selective fashion, even here in my state too at the behest of all but one our state AGs. when they report on the bust, they list the agencies involved, and federals make the list. but the main players are at state level.

here in my state, they have only shut down 2 or 3 people who had large dispensary rings that everyone knew were outside of the law. there are a few more that are clearly outside the law, just not so blatantly. i predict they will go down next.

in the end, we will be offered a choice for president between obama and romney. during the course of this thread, many people wanted to compare candidates and i wanted to focus on the candidate themselves. while obama does have a piss poor stance towards re-legalization and scores only slightly better on medical, he is not a great choice. but our alternative, romney, fails miserably in comparison with obama. and unlike obama, there is no chance that we'd see a more lenient stance during the second term when reelection is no longer a worry.

and to deprave, i am still waiting for citation of a literal grandmother in full compliance with the state law being busted by the feds. still waiting.
 

deprave

New Member
and to deprave, i am still waiting for citation of a literal grandmother in full compliance with the state law being busted by the feds. still waiting.
Jesus Christ, Do you not even read about marijuana, pro-choice is more important to you and your a grower...your bass ackward man..


Ok a direct example of a grandma for you since you love for me to be your errand boy but this is the last errand for tonite..


1:00 MINUTE IN GRANDMA RAIDED



[video=youtube;yEuIdI4Ca2Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEuIdI4Ca2Y[/video]

99% They just take your shit and don't press charges. In this case in paritculiar the judge determined that they were within the laws after many months of painful court hearings, protests, and jail time.


Again...There has been HUNDREDS OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA RAIDS SINCE THE HOLDER MEMOS
 

Smirgen

Well-Known Member
SMEAR DE-BUNKED


Ok the truth comes out about this now...even MSNBC RON PAUL HATER EXTRADORINAIRE Laurence O Donnell Defends Ron Paul and debunks this....The fact is Ron Paul actually does purchase the refundable COACH TICKET everytime...NOT 1ST CLASS TICKETS..http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word-with-lawrence-o'donnell/46034360#46034360

His tickets don't actually even cost 1 additional penny and he takes the same option as everyone else, he only gets to upgrade to first class sometimes because of frequent flyer miles. Laurnce says he really wanted to report on Ron Paul for being a hypocrit on this but unfortantely it is just not true and he pointed out that Ron Paul is the only consistent conservative.

 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
oh, that poor bear.

but yes, i fully admit that after the the campaign of ronald the millionaire changed their story by providing more information, i am proven quite wrong.

it's OK, we are all wrong at times. except for ronald the millionaire, of course.
 

deprave

New Member
his brother brewed some, er, unique beer from what i hear as well. a bit before my time though.

your analysis is dead on. they have been busting those not in compliance in a very selective fashion, even here in my state too at the behest of all but one our state AGs. when they report on the bust, they list the agencies involved, and federals make the list. but the main players are at state level.

here in my state, they have only shut down 2 or 3 people who had large dispensary rings that everyone knew were outside of the law. there are a few more that are clearly outside the law, just not so blatantly. i predict they will go down next.

in the end, we will be offered a choice for president between obama and romney. during the course of this thread, many people wanted to compare candidates and i wanted to focus on the candidate themselves. while obama does have a piss poor stance towards re-legalization and scores only slightly better on medical, he is not a great choice. but our alternative, romney, fails miserably in comparison with obama. and unlike obama, there is no chance that we'd see a more lenient stance during the second term when reelection is no longer a worry.

and to deprave, i am still waiting for citation of a literal grandmother in full compliance with the state law being busted by the feds. still waiting.
So on that note...You must admit it is a very real possibility Ron Paul will win the nomination....something could easily happen at this point destroying romney's chances...So in a hypothetical Ron Paul Vs Obama...Who do you support?
 

budlover13

King Tut
oh, that poor bear.

but yes, i fully admit that after the the campaign of ronald the millionaire changed their story by providing more information, i am proven quite wrong.

it's OK, we are all wrong at times. except for ronald the millionaire, of course.
Changed their story by providing more information? BULLSHIT!!!!

Even the original AP article stated that Paul's campaign had provided "all requested information", unlike the other campaigns. Maybe the AP should've requested more information but it was by no means and in no way the fault of Paul's campaign.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
in the end, we will be offered a choice for president between obama and romney.
According to the tv. But it's still anyones nomination to have. Paul is solid and Romney is just a slip up away from losing alot of support. My parents, both Romney supporters for a couple years, have recently turned on him. They are looking at Paul now.

I voted Paul in 08, why would a comment like this make a person change their mind?


And yeah, why can't we ignore mods, I was wondering the same thing because I really wish every 3rd post wasn't yours.
 
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