Martin Luther King Day

[Canna Sylvan]

Well that safety net has kept a lot of people close to the bottom for a long time. If it doesnt elevate people then it doesnt work.

What retarded democrats don't get is it's not a saftey net, but a fox trap. You can easily get go in but the only way out is if the trapper gets you out. But the trapper has a high price huh? There are lucky ones who break free but the trap is well made, so few do. Politicians make more money when you're accecpting benefits.

This is why it's fucked. Benefits don't count money spent on the expenses you pay to "free" yourself. Which include taxes paid on earnings, gas, and child care. You might make gross way more than on benefits, but nearly half off benefits. It takes time to rebuild. What you and a I consider no longer a cost becomes one. What if you need new tires, that's $300-$400. When a benefits check is $900, that's a huge chunk. But spread over several years is nearly nothing, how long tires.last. When you are rebuilding, you have build costs the other people don't.

What ends up happening is because your benefits go down drastically with every dollar earned, it's like you're being penalized for getting up off your ass. You work hard, but were better off, for now, not compared to then. You get frustrated you'll never be your old self again. It's no wonder people resort to illegal activities to compensate. It will only be temporary, they tell themselved. When in reality, it's their new life.

The sick part is the well off can then invest in you failing. Like a public stock prison corporation, which makes the investor more money the more poor people resort to crime. The poor statistically do more crime, no matter your color. So the more people the can make poor, the more money those investors make. The US has the highest percent of people in prison because of this. Which is why I don't see marijuana being legal anytime soon. Too many criminal investors would lose money overnight. Isn't thw American dream great!

 

[Dan Kone]

I got that impression by the time I was done typing that last post.

Conversations with racists that try to convince you their not racist always follow the same pattern.

I'm only still reading so I can laugh when someone pulls the "I have a black friend black friend" routine. Surprisingly that hasn't come up yet.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

do you believe it is easier for some to succeed in life than others?

that is the reality i acknowledge.

In my high school there were only three black people. Two of them dropped out and were in gangs. The third was on my wrestling team and was valedictorian. He considered the ganstas losers. He was the first person in his family to graduate. Guess his only choice was to join a gang and make something of himself. My first year the valedictorian was a vietnamese girl. The next two, white boys. About 20% asian, 20% mexican and 60% white. The year before the white boy got a 1600 SAT and full ride to Stanford, but was denied entrance to Harvard Law. Boo hoo huh? I call racism! It's liberals who see it all as race why people become what they are. That black boy is now a successful doctor, who became what he is because he's an uncle tom of white priveledge.

 

[UncleBuck]

In my high school there were only three black people. Two of them dropped out and were in gangs. The third was on my wrestling team and was valedictorian. He considered the ganstas losers. He was the first person in his family to graduate. Guess his only choice was to join a gang and make something of himself. My first year the valedictorian was a vietnamese girl. The next two, white boys. About 20% asian, 20% mexican and 60% white. The year before the white boy got a 1600 SAT and full ride to Stanford, but was denied entrance to Harvard Law. Boo hoo huh? I call racism! It's liberals who see it all as race why people become what they are. That black boy is now a successful doctor, who became what he is because he's an uncle tom of white priveledge.

ironic fail post is ironic.

i never mentioned race in my post. i have said repeatedly through this thread that socioeconomic factors are at play more than anything else.

so funny that you accuse me of seeing nothing but race, yet mention race no less than 10 times in your post.

BTW, i meant to reply to your earlier post, but accidentally edited it instead. not realizing what went wrong, i then deleted my reply before realizing my mistake. as a mod, i have an "edit post" button on every single post, not just my own, and it is close to the "reply" button. i hit the wrong one and fucked it all up. my apologies.

 

[beardo]

How many years ago that Ron Paul helped make Martin Luther King day a holiday?

 

[Dan Kone]

How many years ago that Ron Paul helped make Martin Luther King day a holiday?

lol. 5000000. He voted against making MLK's birthday as a holiday. Here's Ron Paul with his buddy former grand wizard of the KKK, Don Black.



I'm sure those two find MLK as an inspirational figure

 

[Canna Sylvan]

ironic fail post is ironic.

i never mentioned race in my post. i have said repeatedly through this thread that socioeconomic factors are at play more than anything else.

so funny that you accuse me of seeing nothing but race, yet mention race no less than 10 times in your post.

BTW, i meant to reply to your earlier post, but accidentally edited it instead. not realizing what went wrong, i then deleted my reply before realizing my mistake. as a mod, i have an "edit post" button on every single post, not just my own, and it is close to the "reply" button. i hit the wrong one and fucked it all up. my apologies.

Well, then what was the point of the black maps? Where I live it's mostly black. I guess the folk here consider me their hippy homie? I don't ever hear about our place sucks because of socioeconomic reasons. Only thing they complain about is how Obama lied about taking away their weed. The dispensary across the street closed, not cause business sucked.

That was the point of my post. I likes me irony. Another reason was to show I didn't live in tia juana flats area. The competition was fierce. Getting a 1600 SAT means it wasn't a gimmie valedictorian for the black boy I remember so little about 15 years ago, but I remember little of anyone else either. My best friend from high school I haven't talked to in 13 years. It's like high school was a dream.

Those race stats were printed in the school paper I happen to remember.

It's all good, I don't even remember what I wrote, so why be mad as you say.

 

[fdd2blk]

ron paul knows what it's like to be black.

 

[UncleBuck]

Well, then what was the point of the black maps?

i was pointing out the legacy of injustices in this country.

we no longer have mandated segregation, but we are left with a legacy of de facto segregation, and it doesn't change overnight.

i'm not even sure how we change or fix it.

 

[UncleBuck]

ron paul knows what it's like to be black.

judging by your avatar, i would say you know a thing or two about being black.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

i was pointing out the legacy of injustices in this country.

we no longer have mandated segregation, but we are left with a legacy of de facto segregation, and it doesn't change overnight.

i'm not even sure how we change or fix it.

We would have changed and fixed it had Mr. Hopey Changey redistributed like he promised.

 

[Dan Kone]

We would have changed and fixed it had Mr. Hopey Changey redistributed like he promised.

No matter how hard you try to be witty, you will always sound like a moron when you paraphrase Sarah Palin.

 

[UncleBuck]

We would have changed and fixed it had Mr. Hopey Changey redistributed like he promised.

you're a tough nut to crack, i see.

No matter how hard you try to be witty, you will always sound like a moron when you paraphrase Sarah Palin.

i don't know, it was OK. i guess.

 

[GreenGurl]

Those plans are going well and the point is and continues to be that people like me will contribute less to economic activity the more burdens that are placed upon us. I dont need to make 300,000 a year to be happy, I will be more than comfortable making between 40,000 and 60,000 and working 1/3 as much.

Glad you've caught up with the thousands of other upper-middle class folk who are quitting (or cutting back on) the "money making" game. But I must confess I've never once heard a person say they were switching to a more sustainable and wholesome way of life because they wanted to de-fund the government.

I wonder... do you believe in tipping?
[video=youtube;0fJCjet2e3U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJCjet2e3U[/video]

 

[Dan Kone]

Glad you've caught up with the thousands of other upper-middle class folk who are quitting (or cutting back on) the "money making" game. But I must confess I've never once heard a person say they were switching to a more sustainable and wholesome way of life because they wanted to de-fund the government.

My theory is you've got to get paid right now while it's still possible. At the rate economic inequality is increasing at the moment, soon the country will be divided in two. There will be a small group of people doing really well, then everyone else will basically be an indentured servant for practical purposes. That second group doesn't sound like a lot of fun to be in.

I hate to be that cynical, but the middle class is disappearing really quickly. I really don't think it's going to be there in any meaningful way 20 years from now. There will be no modestly comfortable but making it middle class. There will be rich and barely surviving. The world is becoming a cold place.

 

[GreenGurl]

Hey all you people who love to throw the R word around like you understand it without having gone through life as a person of color, or gone through serious racism awareness training, please take a few minutes and watch this. Thank you! <3
[video]http://fora.tv/2010/05/06/Jeremy_Rifkin_The_Empathic_Civilization_Animated[/video]

 

[Dan Kone]

Hey all you people who love to throw the R word around

what's the R word?

 

[sync0s]

Lol wtf racism awareness training???

God what has this world come to..

 

[fdd2blk]

if we just make everything a bad word, maybe everyone will finally just stfu.

 

[Dan Kone]

Lol wtf racism awareness training???

God what has this world come to..

Someone is definitely from Berkley. Just saying...

My racism awareness training was being a white minority in an 80% non-white highschool. We had race wars, white vs latino, white & black vs latino, even white + Mexican vs central American. Pretty sure I learned most of what I needed to know. It taught me racism is arbitrary, retarded, and in the end not even really about race at all but more about power, fear, and leveraging ignorance to achieve other goals.