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ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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ANC said:
I would say that is maybe true of salvia, very similar, totaly assualts you on all senses and makes you believe its real, with DMT you are mostly sober, yet running on a diffirent operatingh system, but you are always aware you are tripping.
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Anything that vastly integrates the use of the serotonin system will always live the conscious somehow intact.

As mentioned, Salvia mechanism is quite unique in comparison to how LSD and Psilocybe Mushrooms work. I would consider Salvia as a sub-branch of the deliriant family. Salvia makes reality non-existent as the others distort or refine reality.
 
ControlledEnviorment

ControlledEnviorment

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ANC its interesting when some one tells me one thing, then another person completely disagrees with it and says another that is 180 degrees different of what the first person believes. Funny how that happens, i however have no experience using a meth pipe or oil burner for vaping dmt, but ive been told that it works the shit. you tell me it doesn't, who is right? but all that aside i just use a regular bowl when i smoke dmt just sprinkle it over some charred herb ,and sprinkle a little on top to add as a buffer. i do believe the GVG is a good way to vape the dmt but it is not a bulb type oil burner/
 
flowamasta

flowamasta

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where is a genuine article on extracting dmt making that crystal?? i am interested read alot about dmt but , sounds like some of u guys got it sussed!
 
ANC

ANC

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We have tested those pipes against the small glass one hitters I have posted before, there is no comparison.
With the bulb you boil the living crap out of the spice before you get anything, by that time it tastes like rat shit, for a start.
The one hitter allows you to pass a stream of hot air that goes straight through the spice directly to your head.
the shotgun pipe was AMAZING. ONE HIT got me so
shpongled that i could hear the metallic insect drone of the energy that
maintains reality, and lights kaleidoscoped instantly into blooms of color that
spiraled into all dimensions. dmt = mushroom crack.

I see now why this
design is unique and powerful; the wider mouthpiece allows a MUCH greater
airflow through the ignition area. I eyeballed a little dmt, probably around
30-40mg, onto about half a bowl of largely kief and kiefy plant matter (stuff
stuck in the filter of my grinder). I am sold on this device big time. This is a
great way to smoke your shit.
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Originally Posted by ANC

So the diffirence between the two pipes being
discussed is convection versus
conduction.

That's it....convection is much
better then conduction for DMT.
It tastes much better and vaporizes much more
quickly, so you can actually get a full dose. I couldn't agree with your
technique more.
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Here is some response from another forum where I advised somebody to drop the bulb and try the shotgun, I even directed him to a place to buy one for a fiver.
 
ControlledEnviorment

ControlledEnviorment

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flowamasta said:
where is a genuine article on extracting dmt making that crystal?? i am interested read alot about dmt but , sounds like some of u guys got it sussed!
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If you read this and dont understand it, dont be a retard and just try it anyways, you can kill yourself with the chemicals used to extract
Here they are all in one place:

How to Extract:

Hi There,

i am a person who knows a little bit about spice.

Whatever you do stay the fuck away from youtube! That's step one.

This is a tek that is based on Noman's DMT for the Masses, which i first read in The Entheogen Review. There are significant revisions from Noman's STB (straight to base) tek, based on my experiences.

Here's the easiest way:

MATERIALS:

Two (2) or more half gallon mason jars
Two (2) or more smaller jars
A freezer
A scale
A gallon of Distilled Water
A bottle of Vinegar (acetic acid)
Food grade lye (NaOH)
Naptha - Ronsonol or VM&P, NEVER Coleman's
#4 or #5 coffee filters
A pyrex dish
Heavy duty (lye rated) gloves)
Goggles
Double cartridge respirator
Long sleeved clothing
Shoes & long socks
One or more fans
An eye dropper or pipette or syringe - some way to pull off a top decanted layer of material

ALSO NEEDED:

Good ventilation
Long handled stainless steel spoon or other stirring tool
All pilot lights turned off
All flames extinguished
All sources of sparks/ignition off/controlled

NOTES: You can make more by simply doing the same procedure, using more jars. It's good to have more jars on hand than you think you will need, just in case one breaks or to cover the unexpected.

If you spill any of the lye/water/mimosa solution, immediately pour vinegar all over it before attempting cleanup.


1.) Put all your safety equipment on, open ventilation, start fans, kill flames/sparks.

2.) Put about 850 mL water in the jar. Add about 125 grams lye (NEVER add water to lye, unless you like blinding explosions), slowly, by stirring (stainless steel tool). It will heat up. Use eye protection! You want the lye to go fully into solution - no visible lye in the water. Let it cool for 10-15 mins.

3.) Put about 100 grams of mimosa hostillis root bark - finely ground up - into the jar and seal tightly. Shake vigorously for 2 minutes. Set aside for 2 hours. Smoke a joint if you so desire. Chill out, but do set a timer and come back to the jar in a couple of hours.

4.) Before your full 2 hours are up, begin warming your naptha. About 20-30 mins before the end of the 2 hours, pour hot water from your tap into a pan. Into this hot water bath, place a container of naptha. The water should not enter the container (contamination) and the container should not be sealed (expanding fumes leading to explosion/fire hazard). Ensure good ventilation near an open window with a fan. No sparks or flames. Warming your naptha is not necessary for success but it will increase your yield. After 10 minutes, dump the water out and replace with fresh hot from the tap. You can even do it a third time but that's it. I am beginning to believe it is actually possible to over-heat naptha. If heating, it's best in the 85-110 F range as far as I can determine.

5.) Measure about 40 mL naptha and add to the jar with the water/lye/mimosa mud. Seal this jar tightly. Slowly, gently and carefully rock/roll (do NOT shake) this jar for at least 4 minutes (or more, like 8 is better if you are super gentle and arthritic like i am). Meditate on intentions.

6.) Wait 10-15 mins and come back. You should see 2 layers.

If you do NOT see the layers: Gradually add more lye, about 20-50 grams at a time and alternate with more water about 25 mL at a time. You want the solution to be black and soupy but not too thick to separate. You CANNOT hurt the DMT by adding more lye - it just makes the DMT more likely to migrate over to the non-polar solvent (naptha).

7.) Decant the top layer into a smaller jar. Sepratory funnels are fun but difficult to use for a solution this thick. Syringes and eye droppers or pipettes seem best for beginners. It is important to remove only the top clear layer and to leave the bottom mud layer (contamination) behind. Do a double decant - suck off the top clear layer quickly into another jar. Now from that separate jar, do a second decantation - being very, very careful to precisely suck off just the clear naptha - leave all dark spots and oily residues behind. Place each dropper/syringe full of second collected decantation into your pyrex dish. Ensure good ventilation and wear your respirator throughout.

8.) Repeat steps 5-7 above AT LEAST 3 times. That is, do at least 4 total non-polar solvent (naptha) pulls to get all the spice out of the root bark. Put all the collected naptha from the second decanting into the pryrex dish.

9.) Now, you want to evaporate approximately 50% of this naptha in the pyrex dish. Best way is to place in front of a window with a fan on it. Seal the room and walk away. Come back in a couple of hours. You should see significantly less volume and the naptha should now be cloudy in appearance. Great news! The naptha is now saturated with your DMT.

10.) Transfer this saturated naptha into a new, clean jar. Seal the jar tightly.

11.) Place sealed jar in the back of your freezer. Freezer should be turned UP - should be cold enough to make your ice cream rock hard. Put the jar near the back where the cold air comes in. Close the freezer and try not to peak for 12-48 hours. Sure, you can wait 8 hours but why not wait 48 to get ALL of the DMT, every last precious and magical molecule, to precipitate.

12.) Pull the jar out of the freezer and place a coffee filter over a container large enough to hold all the naptha. Pour the freezing cold naptha through the coffee filter. There will be some crystalline DMT caught in the filter.

13.) Scrape the contents of the jar out onto a pyrex dish using a knife and/or razor. Use a razor to scrape the coffee filter. Take these wet crystals and dry with a fan on low setting (don't want to lose the material when it's powder!) and watch it. Work it off and on with a razor by spreading and chopping over a period of a few hours. You want ALL of the solvent smell to be gone.

14.) Your final product should be white or off white crystals which chop up to powder. This is the freebase form of N,N, Dimethyltryptamine.

If for any reason it seems unclean or the wrong color, the best solution is to recyrstalize using heptane (Bestine) which can be found in art supply stores. Here's a link to the basic procedure: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...t=399207&f=457

How to Recrystallize

Recrystallization is easy and quick and your yellow (or worse) colored spice will be white/glass/fishscale, just the way we like. Pure freebase. No extra plant alkaloid surprises, no ugly oxidation effects.

MATERIALS:
Heptane (buy under the brand name Bestine from art supply stores - you need it to "dissolve rubber cement bonds."
Double cartridge respirator, goggles & heptane rated gloves - usual safety precautions - no flames, sparks or pilot lights.
2 glasses, preferably that narrow at base, like large shot glasses
#4 or #5 coffee filter
an eye dropper
Pyrex dish
Pan/hot water
Good ventilation
Plastic wrap & twist tie
fridge & freezer


PROCEDURE:

Use heated heptane - usual safety precautions - best to just use hot water from the tap in a pan for the hot water bath. Place a gram or less of spice in a large shot glass. Pour some heptane in the other shot glass and also place it in the hot water bath (Pull them out and change out the water for fresh hot from the tap every 10 minutes). After 30-40 mins. spice might even begin to melt. Slowly add warm heptane from the other glass with eye dropper to the spice glass until all of the spice dissolves (could take upwards of 40 mL) - swirl, be patient and add solvent slowly. Add the solvent 10 mL at a time and swirl, stir thoroughly before adding more. Use minimal necessary amount of solvent. You want all the particulate DMT to go into solution.

You will see oils and crap drop to the bottom of the shot glass. Do a careful decantation right now - leave this visible crap behind and pour the thinner, heptane (with spice infused) layer off into the other glass (the one that held the warm heptane originally). Clean out the glass with the gunk left in the bottom.

Now, cover the glass with the heptane (this is a challenge - you need an air tight seal OR a dedicated freezer for the precipitation - if dedicated freezer you can cover with plastic wrap or something similar and tie off with a twist-tie) and set on counter top to naturally cool to room temperature. Then place in the fridge for an hour or two. Then into the freezer for a couple/few hours. i usually let it sit overnight.

Remove from the freezer and pour the heptane off through a coffee filter. Place the heptane in an open window with a fan to evaporate - it will be gone in no time at all. The coffee filter may have a few crystals in it. Set aside to dry. Now examine the glass. It's highly probable that there is a small plug of slag in the bottom that is not white in color. You do NOT want this. Scrape everything out from the sides and bottom of the glass other than this off-color plug. You want the white crystals. Scrape them out into the pyrex dish, then put a fan on it. Chop, spread, etc. to get rid of the solvent.

How to Extract Jungle Spice

The best way that i know of to extract jungle spice follows. Please note that one can use (and i have done so successfully) Xylene and d-limonene in similar procedures. But, this procedure focuses on the use of Toluene as a non-polar solvent.

A famous paper by a psychonaut named Entropymancer is frequently referenced, but has since become outdated. There has been a lot of speculations as to the content of jungle or so-called full spectrum spice, but an underground chemist has done a successful GC/MS and confirmed it is just N,N DMT and DMT-Oxide or similar. Not real big mystery afterall. But, it is definately in a different form than the freebase.

PLEASE NOTE: If you want to convert jungle or full-spectrum spice to freebase you will need a special tek (i hope to be able to post something on this soon). Simple recrystallization in warm Heptane probably would not work well enough or preserve yield.

MATERIALS:
Your spent mimosa marc (aka mud) - the left over MHRB after you've done the basic N,N DMT extraction.
Toluene
Measuring glass
A couple mason jars
Pyrex Dish
Fan
Good Ventilation
A device to decant such as eye dropper, pipette, syringe
A LOT OF TIME - jungle demands patience for full completion

PROCEDURE:
The Toluene is nasty. Use all your usual safety procedures such as long sleeves, goggles, respirator, gloves, etc, extra fans, extra precautions regarding flames or sparks in the area

Warming the Toluene may increase yield. i usually go ahead and warm it by pouring hot tap water into a pan then placing a small mason jar with Toluene in it. i change out the water for new hot water every 10 mins. and warm for 30-40 mins.

1.) Add 40-60 mL of Toluene to your spent mimosa. Seal and rock gently for 5-10 mins. Be gentle - rock, don't shake. Extra time pulls extra material. Good things are worth waiting and working for . . . .

2.) Let the material in the jar separate. This may take longer than it did for your initial naptha pulls. Check every 15 mins. Should be ready in 45-60 mins at the absolute max.

3.) Once you have 2 layers, decant (suck off) the top layer into another, clean jar.

4.) Repeat Steps 1-3 three more times, collecting all of the Toluene into one jar.

5.) No do a second decantation by carefully pouring the Toluene into your pyrex dish, leaving behind any mud (MHRB), oils, emulsions, etc. Just get the Toluene.

6.) Place this pyrex in a sealed room under a window with a small fan set on High. Stuff a towel under the door. Check every few hours. This will take most of the day. You cannot freeze precipitate with Toluene so you literally must evaporate it all.

7.) You are going to get an evil looking oily or greasy residue that can easily be any of these colors: yellow, orange, red, pink, brown. Keep the fan on this residue for a couple of days, yes DAYS. You can remove it once all the visible liquid has evaporated.

8.) You are going to be completing the evaporation over a period of weeks. After a couple of days you can take the fan away, but you are going to want to cover the pyrex in such a way that evaporation can happen, but dust, animal hairs, small mites, etc. do not get into it. i usually just loosely lay some paper towels on top.

9.) Check every few days or so. What you are looking for is for that greasy residue to change into neat looking wheels of crystals. They will still have the weird color(s) but they should be clearly crystals with an overall shape of a sea anemone. This is a flat kind of smear of crystal (sorry, no pic to attach at this time).

10.) Once the crystals have been achieved and you take a good whiff and smell something weird/interesting but no real solvent - now you can take a razor blade and start scraping up the now-waxy goo. Scrape and chop.

11.) Continue to scrape/chop/dry for another week or two.

You now have Jungle Spice ready to use. This stuff is HEAVY. The body load is heavier than straight freebase IMHO. Positively paralyzing.

Also, i am finding the typical user is easily breaking through on 25 to 35 mgs of jungle, correctly vaped, rather than 40-65 of the freebase.

Finally, yes, you CAN make this into changa. Use the same procedure to make changa, just understand that the jungle will be more stubborn about going into solution, so you need to mix aggressively.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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I'm not sure if you're aware but Rollitup frowns upon posting any TEK's of any magnitude relating to drug synthesis or production. Some members were prosecuted for it in the past. But thanks for the in depth information.
 
ANC

ANC

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yes there are several teks on here for thosee who can use search. I just want to add, avoid all aluminium.
 
kentuckyboy

kentuckyboy

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I'm 31 now, but I guess I was about 22 when I tried DMT. At that time I was really into the Rav scene that popoped up over night here. I was taking x and liquid acid just about every weekend. My buddy had a party at his crib and this guy I knew brought some. I was leary about trying it because I had never heard of it before. A couple other friends smoked it out of a light bulb. I wanted them to be the guinea pigs, not me. Anyways after they did it and lived to talk about I itred it. I just remember feeling like I had a bunch of weight on my chest and concentrating on breathing right. It wasn't something I liked at all. Actually it scared the shit out of me. It kind of reminded me of how special k made me feel. I didn't like it either. I'm not in to any of that shit anymore. I just enjoy smoking bud.
 
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timeismoney1

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Not anymore ndanj:)

I and a few others are in charge of these parts now buckaroo :D the more teks the more better

Just no sourcing or asking wtb. :) but that last part is pretty hard to follow
 
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