I want to cry... my babies look horrible plz help... i don't know what is happening

[Sakito]

I need help... i have them under 18-6 light regime and they appear light green with crisping and drying everywhere... they have strong root systems that just keep growing but topside is just sad.... PLZ HELP ME

http://imgur.com/a/ncc0c

I don't know if it is nute burn or what

 

[Sunbiz1]

You should paste this into the hydro section, wish I could help but I'm a soil grower.

 

[alphawolf.hack]

ok what kind of system are you running? what nutes? how many plants in system? do you have a tds/ec meter? what was the ph of the water? what strain? what kind out lighting? looks like a nute problem or maybe not enough oxygen to roots... also looks like it might be hot how is the ventilation set up? and finally what is the water temp?

 

[Sakito]

This is an hydro setup.

I am using technaflora recipe for success and there are 6 plants in the system...

I have no tds/ec meter... the ph is always between 5.5-6

tangerine dream, purple haze and god bud

im using HPS 400 watts

ventilation is setup ok... i have an internal fan for circulation and a big one for extraction. Water temp is around 77F and colder

here are more pics:

http://imgur.com/a/En3Yh

 

[mc260377]

Ouch! First grow? Looks like a serious case of nute burn / lockout

 

[alphawolf.hack]

better. now saving these plants is going to be very difficult process.this is severe nute burn always use 1/3 strength till the plant is ready for more. first you need to empty and clean your system hydrogen peroxide is best. refill with water and elevate pH to about 5.8-6.0 1/5 strength nutes. this will help the plant uptake more N and recover some of its green in order to preform photosynthesis. yellow leaves no photosynthesis. i would also move the light back a little because now is the time to chill and just hope they make a comeback just change your res. at 1/5 nutes for a couple weeks then add a little and slowly work your way back to full strength

 

[Sakito]

Do you think they will give good yields? They have massive clean roots they can develop again right?

I mean, are they really screwed? I'm sad and a bit scared. First grow

 

[Sakito]

Is 400 ppm right or lower? I know the components, but struggle with concentration (obviously)
Edit: sorry 2-post

 

[Justin00]

how old are your nutes?

i only ask because i also use technaflora nutes and after taking about a 4 month break and then starting back up again i fear my sugar daddy had spoiled. i went ahead and used it anyways, being the moron i am, and developed the problem i can only describe as brown slim. it took weeks to treat and deal with and led to similar looking roots, however left untreated formations of slime will rapidly grow to cover most of the roots and any other items in the res including air stones and pumps. for me i was dealing with a newly rooting seeds rather then large plants, fighting light leaks into my res and daily temperature fluctuations associated with the fall weather my illness seemed to advance unnaturally fast .... well anyways i would recommend all the same things to treat it, clean and sterilize the res (i used bleach and boiled my air stones), spray off the roots and remove and dead or rotten material, yeah it will set the plant back but it might save it from dieing, i also added h2oh to the res regularly during the recovery period. my SHL plants are nearly 2 weeks into flower at this point and look wonderful but if you had seen them just after the infection would not believe its the same plant. i took a bit longer in veg dew to the set back but in the end i think it will preform well in flower now.

 

[alphawolf.hack]

you could have an awesome yield but it will take time to get them back in that condition. THEY ARE NOT SCREWD. just have faith and be very careful about what you do

 

[Sakito]

They have yet to go into flowering... How much longer should I expect to keep them in veg before they are ready to bloom?

Again sorry for the bombardment of questions. I just want to save them and feel like a noob because everything I try just worsens them

What bytes should I get? I don't know how old they are. I got them from the hydro store in October 2011

 

[Sakito]

I got my nutes from the hydro store in October 2011... i don't know if they are bad or not.

These ladies have yet to make it to flowering. They have been in veg so far

I was wondering, How long should I expect to extend veg state in order for them to get strong to bloom?

(sorry for the many questions I am a scared first grower)

 

[Bernie420]

They should go about six weeks and or till about 2 1/2 feet tall. It depends on how tall your area is what strain and how tall the plant gets really. You could wait or flower as soon as they start growing again.

 

[alphawolf.hack]

stay in veg for about 4-5 weeks more then flower i recommend growing some bagseed for practice in the mean time. your nutes are probably ok.

 

[tibberous]

Don't worry if you are in veg, veg is when you want there to be problems, and they are way easier to fix than in bloom, and your roots are okay still.

All you need to do is:
- Figure out EXACTLY how many gallons your res holds
- Dump it out
- Go buy a bottle of DG grow
- Add 12ml for each gallon of water
- Get the PH to 5.5 - 6 (try not to overshoot to where you have to use both up and down)
- Redo this every week or two

Also, it's a little weird your not using metal halide for veg.

Couple weeks they'll be better. Also, I don't think it's burn, I think it's lockout / deficiency -- the plants should be less of a lime green and more of a hunter:

 

[Bernie420]

What hydro system is that. I dont know as I am a noob to but to me it looks like a cloner system. All of the pots are really close together, I cant see the plants having the room to grow in that.

In the pics you dont have all of the pots plugged is light getting in there on your roots and letting things grow that shouldnt be

 

[Cannabis Philsopher]

Those are nute burned. Not only that but your roots have rotted. They should not be brown like that. Some type of bacteria must have gotten to the roots. Thus, your plants were not able to absorb enough of the necessary nutrients. Your plants were not just burned by nutes, but good nutes were locked out causing an imbalance. I'm talking from experience. Your water is not getting enough oxygen either. If there was enough oxygen the bacteria would not have survived. clean your reservoir, then switch your lights to 24 hours on to encourage super vigorous root growth. Then make sure the light is a decent distance away and not too close. everything I'm saying to you is from my own experience. I had the same situation multiple times before I figured out where I went wrong.

 

[Cannabis Philsopher]

This is an hydro setup.

I am using technaflora recipe for success and there are 6 plants in the system...

I have no tds/ec meter... the ph is always between 5.5-6

tangerine dream, purple haze and god bud

im using HPS 400 watts

ventilation is setup ok... i have an internal fan for circulation and a big one for extraction. Water temp is around 77F and colder

here are more pics:

http://imgur.com/a/En3Yh

Bacteria grows in temps over 72 degrees. That's where the brown roots are coming from.

 

[Cannabis Philsopher]

If your water is producing slime, then you must be using regular tap water that is very high in PH. That's how my tap water was when I first started. I then got a RO system and that fixed it all. Your water is your enemy right now. It is causing your nutes to be locked out and thus causing the burn and lack of photosynthesis. You should use RO water or buy distilled. You only want to use enough water to cover the top of the water pump. no more than that. That way you can be sure your water is free of backteria.

 

[Justin00]

if you got your nutes in October and stored them in a temperate environment they should be fine.

are you useing the same system i am?

Veg:
BC boost
BC grow
b1 red
sugar daddy
magical

im not positive about the amounts atm as im at work but those are the veg components for my system.

i am very pleased with the tecnoraflora nutes and plan to continue using them. Soooo i have experimented a bit with them a bit by leaving certain ones out from time to time with bag seeds to seed the effects to better understand and future problems. And from my testing so far there seems to be negative results if you are missing any, some more so than others. I have also found a few substitutes for certain parts also but none that work as well as the real stuff.

PS: with this line of nutes i rarely ever manage to get plants to adapt to any more then 3/4 strength even in flower. It may just be me but almost all of my plants start to burn if i go aver 3/4