ok and bubble them right. also i noticed matt does feed,tea,feed,tea. if my plants need watering every day or every other would i be over feeding them if i foolow that or should some days be straight water?
Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize
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ok and bubble them right. also i noticed matt does feed,tea,feed,tea. if my plants need watering every day or every other would i be over feeding them if i foolow that or should some days be straight water?
NightbirdX
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I use BioCanna, Humboldt honey, and Roots excelurator every feeding. Every 3 weeks, I reinoculate by top dressing some mycorhizzae and mix a batch of humboldt honey (2 tsp/gal) and filtered water, I just started using BioAg in my inoculations also. I never bubble though. If the plants look like they need it, I put some BioCanna in. If they are doing well and I have been feeding heavy, I just use the Honey and Bio Ag
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
You can always use the search this thread feature to find this info, Im sure its on here somewhere. I'll repost just cause its doens't matter at this point.
Neem Oil + Karanja Oil
Published by Matt Rize
From a good friend who I'll just call Professor CC
"Dyna-Gro Neem Seed Oil is a very fine product and is easily sourced around the country. Unfortunately when discussing neem oils the discussion almost always revolves around a single compound in this oil - Azadirachtin
This is pretty stupid since Azadirachtin is only 1 of 320 compounds found in neem and karanja seed oils. Specifically this compound is a terpenoid - fair enough.
Having said that, Azadirachtin is only one of 20 terpenoids found in neem and karanja trees. It would be like discussing the benefit of eating citrus fruits and simply focusing on Vitamin C - pretty stupid.
The Dyna-Gro Neem Seed Oil is a very fine product and one that I've used for several years. The level of Azadirachtin specifically is 1500 ppm as per the Dyna-Gro company. And it's a cold-pressed oil which retains much of the beneficial compounds vs. the chemical extraction process used on garbage like Azatrol and Azamax.
The neem tree products from The Ahimsa Foundation (NeemResource.com) is organic. The product comes out of Southeast India in the ancient neem groves going back to the 16th Century. The Azadirachtin levels in this specific product is 4500 ppm - i.e. 3x the levels in the Dyna-Gro Neem Seed Oil
It's human food-grade, fair trade and cheap, cheap, cheap. If you hit their web site look at the horizontal menu bar across the page and hit 'Sample Packs' of which there are 3 deals available. All of them a killer pricing.
Here's the mix that I use with their products to completely, totally, absolutely prevent mites, PM, thrips, etc.
1/2 tablespoon of organic neem oil
1/2 tablespoon of organic karanja oil
1 tablespoon of Dyna-Gro Pro-TeKt (liquid silica and is the perfect emulsifier for these oils)
Mix in a 'rock glass' until you get an even solution. Add this in small amounts to 1 gallon of TEPID water (i.e. 65F - 75F) and slowly. Higher temps diminish the effectiveness of these oils. Once you get that done you now need to add a surfactant to make this mix 'stick' to the leaves and branches.
I recommend using liquid yucca extract (again you want to get organic human food-grade meaning no preservatives) - this is available at T & J Enterprises in Spokane, Washington.
Once you have the oils and liquid silica in the spray tank add 1 oz. (2 tablespoons) of the yucca extract. Close the tank and shake as hard as you can to activate the saponins in the yucca extract.
Hit each and every leaf on the top and bottom (especially) until it looks like you haven't watered your plants for a couple of weeks, i.e. leaves hanging down and generally looking pretty sh*tty. Shut down the lights and let them sit in the dark until the next 'on cycle'
Repeat every 4 or 5 days for at least 3 applications. This will break the adult-egg-larva cycle much like dealing with fleas on you dogs and cats perhaps.
If you want you can also use organic aloe vera juice and I add 1.5 ounces (3 tablespoons) to each gallon of the neem/karanja and water mix. George's is a good product and certainly inexpensive enough. It's organic and has NO preservatives. 90% of aloe vera products do use one of the following or all of them: sodium benzoate, citric acid and potassium sorbate. Cute, eh?
Both of these neem and karanja oils are the finest that I have been able to find. If there's anything better I would be happy to check it out, i.e. I'm not closed-minded on this deal.
I can't recommend these products enough and at the price in their sample packs vs. Dyna-Gro and ESPECIALLY the sh*t from a company called 'Einstein Oil' this product provides bottom-basement pricing. Einstein Oil is $65.00 for 1 pint or $520.00 per gallon.
The organic neem oil from The Ahimsa Foundation is around $75.00 per gallon. Heh......... CC"
http://www.neemresource.com/
http://www.tandjenterprises.com/CCPRO/ecom-prodshow/yuccaextractpintwop.html
Seems like all of you expers like Matt Rize, subcool and such use organics, is it just because they are familiar with this method and know it or because it actually produces a better tasting product then hydro grown buds? ive heard that a good hydro grower can get the same results as a good organics grower, sorry i didnt mean to hijack the thread with hydro vs. organics discussion but im just curious!
how much natural sweetener do you add per gallon? you run it to the finish line?
NightbirdX
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you dont wanna use neem w/in 3 weeks of harvest
NightbirdX
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Lime is a natural source of cal mag and it keeps your pH balanced. I use it at 2 tbs/gal or 1 cup/cu.ft. I find biocanna to be lacking in calmag, and unless you have a very active microbe colony the lime will help keep your pH balanced.
ok i will mix at that ratio, but what if i already have plants in the farfand mix? I have the pelletized dolomite organic lime from home depot and on 2 of my plants i used the farfand mix which is peat and perlite. im thinking this needs a heavy dose of lime. should i disolve 2 tbls of the lime into a gallon of water and water with it? or would you sprinkle the pellets ontop of the soiless mix?
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Well, 15 years of smoking herb and I've never found a chemically grown flower that I liked. I can tell the difference in the smoke, its harsh.
4 weeks from harvest is my general rule
3 weeks is good too. Thanks NightbirdX
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
I mix it in, about a TBSP per gallon of soil.
From guru CC
CC on Liming Amendments
Published by Matt Rize
Rize up CC. Thanks for the knowledge.
"Liming Amendments...
Here's the deal on liming agents.
Calcium Carbonate Amendments
These are the 3 major forms of Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3)
Limestone - (this is what chemical reps refer to as Agricultural Lime) and will usually have a Calcium Carbonate level between 83 - 95% depending on which specific mine the product is coming out of. Limestone (Agricultural Lime) will also have a small amount of Magnesium (Mg) - about 3 - 5% depending again on which mine is the source
Calcitic Lime - this is pure Calcium Carbonate - usually around 95% and contains no traceable amount of Magnesium
Oyster Shell Powder - another pure form of Calcium Carbonate. This product is NOT from oyster shells from Happy Hour at Red Lobster. This is a specific product that is mined in the San Francisco Bay and has been since the 1920's. This is the product most often used by poultry producers, worm operations, etc. It carries a label showing 96% Calcium Carbonate
When figuring the amount of actual Calcium (Ca) when using the carbonate limes, take the total amount and multiply by 38.5% and that will (approximately) give you the actual Calcium levels.
Dolomite Lime - Calcium Magnesium Carbonate contains elemental Calcium (not Calcium Carbonate) so the numbers on the product will reflect the actual Calcium levels. The Magnesium Carbonate component is tightly bound to the elemental Calcium resulting in a much longer time period required for the Calcium to become available.
Gypsum - Calcium Sulfate Dihydrate contains both Sulfur Oxide and elemental Calcium. When broken down by microbes the sulfur releases Hydrogen (H) which will lower the pH (if necessary) and also contains Calcium which can raise the pH (again if necessary) - see Base Saturation and CeC
A typical liming agent used by organic farmers is something like this:
2x Calcium Carbonate
1x Dolomite Lime
1x Gypsum
Mix and add at the same rate if you were using a single agent.
At HomeDepot last night I looked at their products in the nursery section.
Soil Sweet - Dolomite Lime and it was less than $6.00 for 25 lbs.
Super Sweet - Limestone at around the same price
Gypsum - $8.95 for 50 lbs.
Choose your poison.
Prilled vs. Pelletized
Prilled soil amendments are coming and will eventually replace the powdered versions due to a finding by the Labor Department as it relates to worker safety. It will come to the retail market soon enough.
Prilled (as Dignan pointed out) is simply any agent that is coated with a clay thereby reducing the dust issue(s) which makes it far easier to apply to several hundred/thousand acres. The clay used for prilling processes is easily removed by water.
Pelletized is the same thing but the coating is applied thicker and a different clay is used which gives the farmer a longer source as it takes a couple of years to breakdown to the point where the actual amendment is NOW available to the soil biology to breakdown and use. You will never find this at a retail nursery.
CC"
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Matt Rize
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He goes by many names on many sites. And yes, Clack is the man, although he is my personal troll when I leave RIU
Wolverine97
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Not Bio Canna...
