Disclaimers

Zoomin Loomen

Active Member
I see in alot of peoples sig lines a little disclaimer, usually to the effect of :

"I do not condone or participate in illegal activities, anything I say or present on this website is merely fictional" etc etc

Is that really neccessary?

I mean, come on, if youre gonna get busted for growing its going to be in the form of LEO knocking down your door with 35 of his closest friends and youll be caught red handed with silver haze. It will be irrelevant if you posted or not about your grow on here or any website. Your postings will never make it to court.

It seems to me that if there were any kind of far fetched investigation via the internet involving your postings here, it really wouldnt matter if you had that little disclaimer or not.

Ive seen the debate as to whether or not its safe or smart to post on forums regarding these things, and obviously the verdict is that we're cool. Why the added paranoia? It seems to me that if youre that nervous about incriminating yourself you wouldnt post at all. So whats it gonna be?

:peace:
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
I see in alot of peoples sig lines a little disclaimer, usually to the effect of :

"I do not condone or participate in illegal activities, anything I say or present on this website is merely fictional" etc etc

Is that really neccessary?

I mean, come on, if youre gonna get busted for growing its going to be in the form of LEO knocking down your door with 35 of his closest friends and youll be caught red handed with silver haze. It will be irrelevant if you posted or not about your grow on here or any website. Your postings will never make it to court.

It seems to me that if there were any kind of far fetched investigation via the internet involving your postings here, it really wouldnt matter if you had that little disclaimer or not.

Ive seen the debate as to whether or not its safe or smart to post on forums regarding these things, and obviously the verdict is that we're cool. Why the added paranoia? It seems to me that if youre that nervous about incriminating yourself you wouldnt post at all. So whats it gonna be?

:peace:
I agree 1000%,,with attitudes like that,,pot will never be legal,,,I think anyone who puts that at the bottom of thier sig,,should jump in the closet with thier plants,,close the door and stay there:hump:

Keep on Growin

HoLE

Anything said by me,,,was said by me!
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I always wondered about those. I didnt see any point.
there is no point,,showin what you do,,and saying you don't,,c'm,on,,it only puts more negativity to the legalization of pot,,if the growers and users of it say they don't condone it,,we wanna go forward,,not backward

Keep on Growin

HoLE

Disclaimer: I smoke and grow,,and it should be legal!
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
just for the record,,,I'm reppin Zoomin Loomen for this post,,,,first off this is an 18 plus site,,I believe,,,so if your growin a quarter under your bed I think you should be booted,,,and as far as these disclaimers go,,if your not ready to stand up for what you believe is right,,,then go to theSmurfs.com,,and play never never land there

Keep on Growin

HoLE

Disclaimer: My name is Ed,,I grow and smoke pot!
 

Jointsmith

Well-Known Member
I agree completely with this thread.

We are not doing anything WRONG by growing and smoking a plant that has been used for millenia, people should stop acting like we are.

Peace and Love.
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
i think it's more of a protecting their ass in the event that anything they put on the site does try and get used against them. more of a procautionary thing than a paranioa thing. by putting the disclaimer, it doesn't mean that they are saying what they are doing is wrong, just ILLEGAL.
Just trying to play devil's advocate.
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
i think it's more of a protecting their ass in the event that anything they put on the site does try and get used against them. more of a procautionary thing than a paranioa thing. by putting the disclaimer, it doesn't mean that they are saying what they are doing is wrong, just ILLEGAL.
Just trying to play devil's advocate.
maybe,,but in Canada,,a taped conversation is not allowable as evidence,,so why would a typed conversation be any different,,like I said earlier,,it just klikked in my head,,that what were doing is not wrong,,so why try to pump the negative

Keep on Growin

HoLE
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
in my eyes,,posting here,,and having that type of disclaimer,,is total hypocracy

Keep on Growin

HoLE
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
I'm looking at it from an american perspective. they can use anything from a website, phone conversation, recorded conversation, pretty much anything tied to you. so.... rather than just allowing it, at least that way they can point out the disclaimer, then nothing is admisable because it is said to be a prop, for entertainment.
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
i agree that's it's hypocritical, but up until today I had one too ( allowing myself to be a hypocrite) because I figured it was better to have the option of using the disclaimer in the event that they did try to use any of this shit against me.
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
I'm looking at it from an american perspective. they can use anything from a website, phone conversation, recorded conversation, pretty much anything tied to you. so.... rather than just allowing it, at least that way they can point out the disclaimer, then nothing is admisable because it is said to be a prop, for entertainment.

ok,,but like Zoomin said,,when they bust down your door,,and that's what it would take,,,,could you deny that the 5 northern lights plants they found were yours,,,in your house,,c'mon,,if your gettin busted,,it's for way more than you posted here,,,where I live in Canada,,it's still against the law to grow pot,,,but I believe in what I'm doing,,,and I believe in the cause,,,so I am not afraid to say so,,,we need more peeps to say they ain't afraid to say so,,negativity doesn't help,,and won't save you in the end

Keep on Growin

HoLE

Disclaimer: Name is Ed,,I smoke and Grow!
 

jimmyspaz

Well-Known Member
Whatever makes people happy, if they think that a disclaimer makes any difference that's fine, but see mine.
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
your right, they could never bust you solely on the information they could get off the website, however, some of their key points could come from the site, things that they needed to get the warrant, or things that specifically tie you to something or someone. I don't think the disclaimers will keep you out of trouble by any means, but it's just one more thing that could potentially help save your ass in the event that they do come busting down the door. I'm all for legalizing and legitimizing weed, but that does not mean that I am going to openly tell people I grow pot! I most certainly am open about smoking pot though. anyone who knows me knows I smoke pot.
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
ok Orecal,,I agree with some,,,,,,,,no I don't,,,what we need is a billion or so ppl to come here and not be ashamed of what they are doing,,no matter what country you live in,,,some of these stoners aren't even old enough to vote,,,well,,it alll starts with talking to your MPP(in Canada),,and saying I voted for you,,now do what I want,,,,if enough ppl in all worlds could do this,,maybe we'd get somewhere,,,but while a person is posting his/her pic of pot or a grow,,or a DIY or whatnot,,,they should not be denying it,,I mean,,how STUPID do they think the rest of the world is,,c'mon

Keep on Growing

HoLE(Ed)

Disclaimer: I am by no means ashamed of growing and smoking!
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
i completely agree, I am in constant contact with my reps trying to get them to vote the way I would. I'm not ashamed of what I do, and I would hope that anyone on RIU would feel the same. I really wish that more people would annoy their reps in order to get the politicians to change and do what we want, but too many people are still too afraid of saying what their beliefs are, it's a shame, but that's the way it is. I just don't think that the disclaimers are necessarily a sign of people that are ashamed of what they do, or think it's wrong. I think they just accept that at this moment it is illegal and they want to do as much as possable to keep themselves out of trouble. But anyone who smokes pot and enjoys it should be willing to stand up and say so, unfortunately we don't live in a world where the majority of people have the balls to do that.
 

HoLE

Well-Known Member
i completely agree, I am in constant contact with my reps trying to get them to vote the way I would. I'm not ashamed of what I do, and I would hope that anyone on RIU would feel the same. I really wish that more people would annoy their reps in order to get the politicians to change and do what we want, but too many people are still too afraid of saying what their beliefs are, it's a shame, but that's the way it is. I just don't think that the disclaimers are necessarily a sign of people that are ashamed of what they do, or think it's wrong. I think they just accept that at this moment it is illegal and they want to do as much as possable to keep themselves out of trouble. But anyone who smokes pot and enjoys it should be willing to stand up and say so, unfortunately we don't live in a world where the majority of people have the balls to do that.

you sound pretty solid Orecal,,and this is not a hate on for you,,,I just think ,,,,,Go Hard,,or Go HoME,,either your for it,,or against it,,and if your for it,,don't be scared,,we need more ppl to not be scared,,I have only 4 girls right now,,in 2 different settings,,,and am not afraid to say so,,so do you think for a second,,that someone scoping this site for growers,,,,is gonna waste the time and manpower on someone like me or anyone else here for that mattter,,whether you say this is BS or not,,if they are watchin ya,,,they are watchin ya,,,

Keep on Growin

HoLE
 
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