CFL Closet Grow For Me And Wifey
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ZipDriveX
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Haha, thanks man. Won't be setting all that up until tomorrow or Saturday. And believe me there will be pictures to follow!
ZipDriveX
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Our girls are 3 weeks old today!! No update from the last one, everyone is still growing great, even the runt Belle lol.
Tomorrow or Saturday I will be changing up the setup like I posted on the previous page with the larger pots and more bulbs. (See the diagram one page back)
For now here's a pic of how they sit as of five minutes ago
Tomorrow or Saturday I will be changing up the setup like I posted on the previous page with the larger pots and more bulbs. (See the diagram one page back)
For now here's a pic of how they sit as of five minutes ago
broadsterdamn
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lol those are pretty much the same as mine just a few weeks ahead but yeah I've got one just like that she's so tiny I wish I could upload pics it's just sad you can hardly even see it sticking out of the soil but it's gettin it's first 3 leaves??!!
matthebrute
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I cant help but think they should be a bit bigger for 3 weeks. or is that 3 weeks since you planted them?
how long since they shed the seed pod and opened thier cotyldon (however you spell it)
no pun intended man
how long since they shed the seed pod and opened thier cotyldon (however you spell it)
no pun intended man
matthebrute
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probally 2 weeks from sprout. wasnt trying to dog your plants either but you will see what i mean when you compare todays pic to a pic next friday
huge difference
mrmikey127
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I'm digging your setup, reminds me of mine in a way (I just started what I will call my first official grow). Are lights running 24/day? Definitely going to follow this thread.
ZipDriveX
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I know you weren't doggin, it's all goodprobally 2 weeks from sprout. wasnt trying to dog your plants either but you will see what i mean when you compare todays pic to a pic next friday
And ya, I'm excited that they're finally at the point where there is noticable growth just about every day!!Thanks man! Ima check out your grow right now!! I run my lights 18/6 right now and will switch to 12/12 for flowering in a couple weeks
I like to give my girls some rest
ZipDriveX
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I found an old grow of yours from this summer, but not a current one. Have you started another grow or just not updated the one in a while lol?
ZipDriveX
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Just went to go set up the fan and when I went to plug it in it made a loud squeeling noise and started smoking!!! Haha, I think it's time to retire the 5 year old fan for a new one that osolates
So tomorrow I will be heading to Ace (my favorite place!) and buying 2 new pots (already have one from the last grow), 4 Y adapters, 2 2400k (or 2700k I don't remember which they have) bulbs, a small osolating fan, and some more soil. I hesitate to purchase Miricle Grow again after reading all the bad threads about it and that I've already got a little bit of nute burn on a couple of the leaves. I don't want to buy a dull soil and then purchase nutes to add to it, I would MUCH prefer to just buy a soil with some decent nutes already in it. Suggestions? Or am I a fool for not goin all out and trying to mess with nutes on basicaly my first full grow......?
Also I noticed this morning that Tiana and Ariel's fan leaves were all up at a 45* angle (like this: \ / ). This usually happens at night and then by the time they've had a couple hours of light on them they'll settle back down into their normal 90* angle. Not sure why the plants do this but I know it's normal. Well Ariel's fan leaves were back down just now but Tiana's are still just about straight up in the air!! lol. Anyone know what the purpose of growing this way is? Just kinda curious, I'm gonna do a quick search on it
Sorry for the bable post, smoked a big bowl at lunch lol! :bongsmile:
So tomorrow I will be heading to Ace (my favorite place!) and buying 2 new pots (already have one from the last grow), 4 Y adapters, 2 2400k (or 2700k I don't remember which they have) bulbs, a small osolating fan, and some more soil. I hesitate to purchase Miricle Grow again after reading all the bad threads about it and that I've already got a little bit of nute burn on a couple of the leaves. I don't want to buy a dull soil and then purchase nutes to add to it, I would MUCH prefer to just buy a soil with some decent nutes already in it. Suggestions? Or am I a fool for not goin all out and trying to mess with nutes on basicaly my first full grow......?
Also I noticed this morning that Tiana and Ariel's fan leaves were all up at a 45* angle (like this: \ / ). This usually happens at night and then by the time they've had a couple hours of light on them they'll settle back down into their normal 90* angle. Not sure why the plants do this but I know it's normal. Well Ariel's fan leaves were back down just now but Tiana's are still just about straight up in the air!! lol. Anyone know what the purpose of growing this way is? Just kinda curious, I'm gonna do a quick search on it
Sorry for the bable post, smoked a big bowl at lunch lol! :bongsmile:
matthebrute
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my outdoor grow every day at sunset you could almost watch the leaves wilt and go into "resting mode" i think this is because it requires less energy for them to just go limp. i dunno lolJust went to go set up the fan and when I went to plug it in it made a loud squeeling noise and started smoking!!! Haha, I think it's time to retire the 5 year old fan for a new one that osolates
So tomorrow I will be heading to Ace (my favorite place!) and buying 2 new pots (already have one from the last grow), 4 Y adapters, 2 2400k (or 2700k I don't remember which they have) bulbs, a small osolating fan, and some more soil. I hesitate to purchase Miricle Grow again after reading all the bad threads about it and that I've already got a little bit of nute burn on a couple of the leaves. I don't want to buy a dull soil and then purchase nutes to add to it, I would MUCH prefer to just buy a soil with some decent nutes already in it. Suggestions? Or am I a fool for not goin all out and trying to mess with nutes on basicaly my first full grow......?
Also I noticed this morning that Tiana and Ariel's fan leaves were all up at a 45* angle (like this: \ / ). This usually happens at night and then by the time they've had a couple hours of light on them they'll settle back down into their normal 90* angle. Not sure why the plants do this but I know it's normal. Well Ariel's fan leaves were back down just now but Tiana's are still just about straight up in the air!! lol. Anyone know what the purpose of growing this way is? Just kinda curious, I'm gonna do a quick search on it
Sorry for the bable post, smoked a big bowl at lunch lol! :bongsmile:
as far as nutes. your probally going to end up needing them anyways, the MG soil is hot but after 5-6 good watering and as the plant grows they get used up and your going to have to feed them plants somehow so i would grab up some "dull" soil and just start mixing about 1/4 strenth in about a week. do the 1/4 strength for probally 2-3 weeks then got to 1/2 strenth. do that for a couple weeks then go 3/4 (see where im getting with this?)
this way you can increase or decreas as your plants tell you, no messing around with that time release shit that you have no clue what amount of nutes your getting.i have had a terrible experience with pre nuted mediums and i dont think i will ever use again .
nomaninsf
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I prefer a completely inert (dull) medium. I like to use Canna brand coco because it's completely inert (containing no chemicals, ferts, castings, etc.). My reason for this is that I like to have total control over what my plants are being fed. I would recommend using Botanicare's line. Pick yourself up a bottle of Pure Blend Pro Grow, Pure Blend Pro Bloom (soil version if you're using soil), and CalMag. I recommend Botanicare's line because it's a really easy formula to follow, very user friendly. If you follow the directions on the back to the T you will have some happy plants. The Grow and Bloom base nutes are 1-part nutes so you don't have to mix ratios like you would with a 2-part or 3-part base nutrient solution. It's pretty basic. You use the Grow formula when you're in 18-24 hours of light and use the Bloom when you switch to 12/12. Use CalMag throughout the whole grow as cannabis tends to use lots of magnesium and calcium. Those are the basics. There's additives you can add for early flower production, putting on mass, and hardening flowers but that's not until down the line.
ZipDriveX
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Thanks for the info on the nutes and soils guys. Still not sure if I want to go balls deep in buying a bunch of nutes though.... I'm gonna do a bunch of research and reading before I head to Ace (and wherever else I may need to go) to find out exactly what I want to do. Keep the good info coming!!
ZipDriveX
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Damn there's enough scattered information on soils and nutes in this place to really blow your mind and confuse your more than answer your questions lol.
What would happen if you grew a plant it's whole life without nutes, just in a dull soil? Would it die or just not yield worth a shit?
Also, is there soil that wouldn't require adding any nutes? Just water for life? I know it's far fetched but I'm lazy and don't want to shell out a ton of money on nutriants.
What is the most SIMPLE system for feeding them? Is there like one bottle I add during veg, and another I can add during flower and call it good? Or do I need to order a bunch of bottles of stuff?
I've been researching for over an hour now and I've just managed to confuse myself more than help myself
I think I may make this post into a seperate thread so others who are not following my grow and pipe in.
What would happen if you grew a plant it's whole life without nutes, just in a dull soil? Would it die or just not yield worth a shit?
Also, is there soil that wouldn't require adding any nutes? Just water for life? I know it's far fetched but I'm lazy and don't want to shell out a ton of money on nutriants.
What is the most SIMPLE system for feeding them? Is there like one bottle I add during veg, and another I can add during flower and call it good? Or do I need to order a bunch of bottles of stuff?
I've been researching for over an hour now and I've just managed to confuse myself more than help myself
I think I may make this post into a seperate thread so others who are not following my grow and pipe in.
matthebrute
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if you grow a plant its whole life in "dull" soil it will probally die.
you may be able to make the entire plant on the slow release stuff depending on how big you vegg them, anything over 2ft tall (i would think but not posotive) will probally use up all of the nutes in soil and want more, probally finish out its life but yeild will suffer.
by "dull soil" i am refering to soiless soil with absolutly no nutritional value.
baisicly the bigger the plant the more nutrients its going to need to live, without important key elements like nitrogen, Phosphorus and potasium (N-P-K) they plant will just wilt and die. you can kill a plant if you get a deficiency of micronutrients as well.
hope someone else with more knowledge chimes in here too. i know im not far off the beaten path but still a bit in experienced myself with the nutrient deal. personally i picked up some miracle grow granular food that you mix with water. i bought a tomatoe food that is 18-18-21 wich is good for vegg because of its high nitrogen content and a "bloom booster product that has 10-52-10 for flower since it is high in Phosphosrus wich i believe is good for bud growth, not saying that these are "the best" to use but they definatly have the elements plants utilize to make food.
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/npkexplanation.html
it might help you to read about the fertilizers themselvs. sorry couldnt be more help
you may be able to make the entire plant on the slow release stuff depending on how big you vegg them, anything over 2ft tall (i would think but not posotive) will probally use up all of the nutes in soil and want more, probally finish out its life but yeild will suffer.
by "dull soil" i am refering to soiless soil with absolutly no nutritional value.
baisicly the bigger the plant the more nutrients its going to need to live, without important key elements like nitrogen, Phosphorus and potasium (N-P-K) they plant will just wilt and die. you can kill a plant if you get a deficiency of micronutrients as well.
hope someone else with more knowledge chimes in here too. i know im not far off the beaten path but still a bit in experienced myself with the nutrient deal. personally i picked up some miracle grow granular food that you mix with water. i bought a tomatoe food that is 18-18-21 wich is good for vegg because of its high nitrogen content and a "bloom booster product that has 10-52-10 for flower since it is high in Phosphosrus wich i believe is good for bud growth, not saying that these are "the best" to use but they definatly have the elements plants utilize to make food.
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/npkexplanation.html
it might help you to read about the fertilizers themselvs. sorry couldnt be more help
mrmikey127
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Yeah, that turned into a joke. I have a new setup right now, only temporary for now. I am working on my grow box, which should be done shortly. Ill have to start another log. Ill snap some shots for ya.
But, i am working on another grow. Trying to start off some indian haze, hoping they germ tonight or tomorrow.
But, i am working on another grow. Trying to start off some indian haze, hoping they germ tonight or tomorrow.
ZipDriveX
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Alright, here's the new thread I started on trying to figure out what soil and nute system I wanna use, and basic info on nutes.
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/499256-feeling-overwhelmed-basic-nute-questions.html
I think I've decided on some Fox Farms Happy Frog as I see a lot of people using it with great results and reviews and also check out the GH Flora nute system I'll be heading out to shop here in a bit
Here's a pic of the nute burn the MG is causing already.
Ariel
Tiana
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/499256-feeling-overwhelmed-basic-nute-questions.html
I think I've decided on some Fox Farms Happy Frog as I see a lot of people using it with great results and reviews and also check out the GH Flora nute system
I'll be heading out to shop here in a bitHere's a pic of the nute burn the MG is causing already.
Ariel
Tiana
matthebrute
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i know you want to keep it simple nut never ends up that way good luck on yout nute adventure
good luck on yout nute adventure
ZipDriveX
Active Member
Well I wasted a bunch of time driving all over town today trying to buy soil and nutes. Everyone was closed today for New Years (duh! Didn't think about that!). It wasn't a complete waste though, I still got all my bulbs and y adapters I needed. Here's pics of the new setup, I used the idea someone gave me earlier in my thread about the oven pans to use as a new hood
Now I have a total of 6 26w 5000k CFL's & 2 26w 2700k CFL's over my girls!! Monday I will go almost down the street to a local shop that carries all sorts of good nutes and Fox Farm and replant them to start 2012 off right!!!
Now I have a total of 6 26w 5000k CFL's & 2 26w 2700k CFL's over my girls!! Monday I will go almost down the street to a local shop that carries all sorts of good nutes and Fox Farm and replant them to start 2012 off right!!!