Iso Extractions by _oakley_

[oakley1984]

Hey Oakley...great info. I have a few questions. What is the ratio of iso to weed?... Where can I find 90+% of iso in Canada

hey great questions!

walmart sells it, buckerfields sells it, most hydro stores sell it, even costo sells it!
costco was my most recent discovery, i was amazed to find they will sell 4L of 99% iso, for only 16$ compared to 25-30 most other places

ratio of iso to weed

well as stated in the guide i like to use about 1L of iso for an ounce of good bud as this assures maximum yield.

this method also works for processing Large amounts of trim/leaf... but the ratio severely drops off with such materials, eg... id use 4L to process a quarter garbage bag of leaf..... im about 60 days off from harvest and this round will be turning all my trim/leaf into oil instead of hash. when that happens i will provide a better guide on how to do it for those materials!

 

[CdnBud]

hey great questions!

walmart sells it, buckerfields sells it, most hydro stores sell it, even costo sells it!
costco was my most recent discovery, i was amazed to find they will sell 4L of 99% iso, for only 16$ compared to 25-30 most other places

ratio of iso to weed

well as stated in the guide i like to use about 1L of iso for an ounce of good bud as this assures maximum yield.

this method also works for processing Large amounts of trim/leaf... but the ratio severely drops off with such materials, eg... id use 4L to process a quarter garbage bag of leaf..... im about 60 days off from harvest and this round will be turning all my trim/leaf into oil instead of hash. when that happens i will provide a better guide on how to do it for those materials!

Thanks...out of that 1L, after cooking, how much oil do you end up with?

 

[oakley1984]

Thanks...out of that 1L, after cooking, how much oil do you end up with?

using 1oz of bud... can vary anywhere from 1g to 7g... same type of results as bho.. i did a side by side comparison of bho vs iso and got identical weight in return

its very much strain dependant! how potent the strain is, how many trichs, weather its dark or light green (chlorophyll content) many determining factors

 

[snowmanexpress]

Why would one choose ISO or BHO as their way to extract?

With ISO, I'm such a newb, with really no experience in extracts, I ALWAYS mess up and get green cloro. I always say, a little longer, a little longer, shake shake. I even put small airgun zinc BB's in my container to help the mix, ummm agitate. But my shit always ends up green cause I want too much out of ISO when I use that method.

I did BHO, came out okay I guess. Then after I ran out of butane, I ran ISO again after it cooled, thru the rest of the mix again. Acording to your write up, I bet I shouldve ISO'd when it was freezing ice cold from the Butane! But I was scared to due to, a possible chemical reaction. Does that make sense?

 

[oakley1984]

Why would one choose ISO or BHO as their way to extract?

With ISO, I'm such a newb, with really no experience in extracts, I ALWAYS mess up and get green cloro. I always say, a little longer, a little longer, shake shake. I even put small airgun zinc BB's in my container to help the mix, ummm agitate. But my shit always ends up green cause I want too much out of ISO when I use that method.

I did BHO, came out okay I guess. Then after I ran out of butane, I ran ISO again after it cooled, thru the rest of the mix again. Acording to your write up, I bet I shouldve ISO'd when it was freezing ice cold from the Butane! But I was scared to due to, a possible chemical reaction. Does that make sense?

so um... thats a good way to cause Alot of damage and harm to your body. First off.... if you want oil like at the end of the guide.. FOLLOW THE GUIDE
2nd... DONT USE FREAKIN BB's! zinc, aka the galvanized material that covers the bb's.... IS SOLVENT SOLUBLE! hows smoking zinc working out for you?
3rd... dont try to rerun a material with a 2nd solvent... your creating alot of impurities and beyond that... your not recovering more cannabinoids, just more chloroplylll.... btw.. that chlorophyll stuff... is green.

so yes. according to my writeup you should most deffinatly not do Anything you have stated, dont use butane AND iso, pick ONE.... with iso... dont shake.. follow the guide.... ive doing this for close to 15 years... have a pretttttty good idea of what im talking about with this stuff.... Read the guide... follow it word for word.. You wont be sorry that you did.

 

[snowmanexpress]

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[oakley1984]

The solubility of zinc depends on temperature and pH of the water in question. When the pH is fairly neutral, zinc in water is insoluble. Ph of iso is 7 as an alcohol, like water.....Guess youre trying to scare me I think.

i dont know where you get your facts, but you're funny. Enjoy the zinc

 

[oakley1984]

You DO understand Im talking about metallic zinc, and not a powder zinc right? Not zinc cloride or zinc acetate. Metal friggin zinc bro wow. Not the diet supplement powder zinc at GNC either.

I'll show you.

http://www.themedicalquestions.com/acne/is-zinc-water-soluble.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc

Reactivity

Zinc has an electron configuration of [Ar]3d[SUP]10[/SUP]4s[SUP]2[/SUP] and is a member of the group 12 of the periodic table. It is a moderately reactive metal and strong reducing agent.[SUP][24][/SUP] The surface of the pure metal tarnishes quickly, eventually forming a protective passivating layer of the basic zinc carbonate, Zn[SUB]5[/SUB](OH)[SUB]6[/SUB](CO[SUB]3[/SUB])[SUB]2[/SUB], by reaction with atmospheric carbon dioxide.[SUP][25][/SUP] This layer helps prevent further reaction with air and water.

Damn right im funny. A joke for your convenience.

Oh and another thing, I hope your plastic container has a number 2, 4, or 5 on the bottom of it so you dont melt and smoke plastic with your iso. Hows That for irony. Cancer anyone?

http://bachodi.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/what-do-the-numbers-below-plastic-bottles-indicate/

http://www.plasticsmythbuster.org/Main-Menu/Plastics-Rumor-Registry/Bottles-With-Plastic-Recycling-Numbers-Below-5-Release-Cancer-Causing-Chemicals-

haha, your a funny kid, too bad you dont understand what a solvent is, a polar compound, and what a non polar solvent is, Enjoy your zinc you fucking idiot.
maybe one day youll actually understand the difference between isopropanol alcohol, and water... until then.. get the fuck out of my thread.

oh and just to prove your an idiot...

pH is the property of a solution. So isopropanol -- a compound -- doesn't have a pH per say.
However, a solution of isopropanol does have a pH. The hydroxyl hydrogen can dissociate from the alcohol (with a pKa around ~15-20).
So if you have pure isopropanol, your pH should be around ~17, while if you have a isopropanol and water (50/50% vol) you should have a pH around 7 (this will depend on a lot of factors).

Do everyone a favor before posting your asinine THEORYS.... pick up a chemistry textbook, AND READ.

 

[snowmanexpress]

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[oakley1984]

Hey, how can you prove anything with SHOULD BE and PER SAY. You are unintelligent and misleading and absolutely wrong. I'd piss on your grave and have it leak into the well known cavern's of oxygen between your eyes and ears. Fuck you. Bitch.

im not arguing with someone who cant even operate google.

 

[bigbo420]

OAKLEY you saved the day over here buddy!! Lol. I got a two uestions for ya.

1. What exactly are u pulling away from ur "cloudy iso mix" when filtering with disposable coffee filters?

2. When ur technique is perfected, and I have results similar to yours; would I be able to make an attempt at an altered way to make Thai Sticks?

And I forgot to thank you for this very informative guide!!

Oh! I forgot, will freezing 90% iso separate the water from the alcohol? Nd if not in a typical freezer is there another way I can separate the water without doing something to lower quality/potency.

 

[oakley1984]

OAKLEY you saved the day over here buddy!! Lol. I got a two uestions for ya.

1. What exactly are u pulling away from ur "cloudy iso mix" when filtering with disposable coffee filters?

2. When ur technique is perfected, and I have results similar to yours; would I be able to make an attempt at an altered way to make Thai Sticks?

And I forgot to thank you for this very informative guide!!

Oh! I forgot, will freezing 90% iso separate the water from the alcohol? Nd if not in a typical freezer is there another way I can separate the water without doing something to lower quality/potency.

i will answers this to the best of my abilities;

question 1; when using a reusable coffee filter (which is required for the contact time) with the cold and the micron size of the mesh on the filter, it breaks off trichomes which are then carried with the solvent, by using the traditional coffee filter you can see all the trichomes that have been removed from the suspension, which made the iso "cloudy"

question 2; beats the hell outta me i know nothing of thai sticks other than the name... they were a phenomenon Much before my time !


Freezing will not seperate the water from alcohol, eg... ever tried to freeze a bottle of hard liquor? doesnt work very well does it

and thats only 40% alcohol.

 

[bigbo420]

Thanks man! Do u recommend allowing these filters to dry nd to use the tricromes for smoking/edibles? I was goin to dip buds in the oil allow to dry thoroughly and then cure for about a month. Im thinking ur end product's consistency would b too gel like for this, correct me if im wrong. Thanks again.

 

[oakley1984]

i definitely do not recommend smoking those trichomes from the coffee filter, they have 0 value after the solvents touched them.
hehe, i admire your aspirations however... to make a vat of oil large enough to "dip" buds in... your gonna need ALOT of oil, baby jar full... talking a couple ounces... at that point all you have to do is heat the jar and dip would work just fine. to make that much oil tho, your going to need......probably close to a kitchen grocery bag stuffed full of popcorn buds/trim, talking a pound of quality material at least!

 

[bigbo420]

Ok, awesome. And I understand the large amounts of cannabis necessary, my entire next harvest will b dedicated to this project. And besides the first bowl will make the entire process worth it to me. maybeill have a try at some who and do a double dip.

 

[bigbo420]

BHO* not who lol

 

[oakley1984]

well im looking forward to seeing how it works out for you! keep in mind this guide was designed to process around quarter pound max... theres some modifications to the technique when using lower quality material/alot more of it

ill be posting a guide on that in a couple months when my current grow comes down!(links in sig!)

 

[bigbo420]

I will def keep u posted, on how everything goes. Nd im checkin ur grow out now

 

[growinman]

Excellent guide oakley!! +rep4u

peace
gman

 

[bigbo420]

Could I use everclear to do the extraction?