List of Things Christianity Has Made Worse

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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I understand you BELIEVE this, but where's your evidence?
my evidence, is that you have made a claim , but have no evidence to back it up , so as things stand the evidence im using to justify my thinking ( that the god you claim exists does not exist ) is that you have failed to back up your claim without any evidence .i could claim black people are aliens , but without any evidence backing my claim up you would say that that is not true , because you have not seen any evidence supporting this claim , DO YOU GET IT YET SUNSHINE ?
 

Hepheastus420

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my evidence, is that you have made a claim , but have no evidence to back it up , so as things stand the evidence im using to justify my thinking ( that the god you claim exists does not exist ) is that you have failed to back up your claim without any evidence .i could claim black people are aliens , but without any evidence backing my claim up you would say that that is not true , because you have not seen any evidence supporting this claim , DO YOU GET IT YET SUNSHINE ?
Ahhh I'm sunshine? that's nice lol.

You claimed that believers are mentally retarded....where's your evidence?

Are you saying that if someone makes a falseclaim, they are mentally retarded?
 

Heisenberg

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yeah anyway someone who believes in something that they can not prove exists is mental in my book .and to be honest olly has never come up with one scrap of evidence his god exists therefore i consider him mentally retarded or at least mentally challenged .
You depend on him not having evidence to justify your childish attacks without showing the slightest interest in any evidence that might be there. That amounts to posturing. Being mental 'in your book' counts for nothing. The book which defines mental conditions is called the DSM, and it doesn't list belief in god as a disorder. Mental disorders manifest themselves in multiple ways, not in just one specific isolated area. When you state that believers are retards and you have no distinction other than 'your book', you are making claims based on nothing but personal credulity, the very thing you are upset with believers for doing. Your real motivation seems to be entrapment.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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ahhh i'm sunshine? That's nice lol.

You claimed that believers are mentally retarded....where's your evidence?

Are you saying that if someone makes a falseclaim, they are mentally retarded?
well, yes that is what im saying , if someone approached you in the street and said they just got teleported here from another planet , you would say wow show me that your not bullshitting , when that person failed to show you , then you would presume that guy was retarded yes ? Or at least delusional ?
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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LOl heinz ive argued with this retard for months now ,there is no evidence there , hes got no evidence to back up his belief in his god , ive been over n over everything you could ever go over about religion and belief , faith and everything else , im sorry but i think the guy is halucinating or mentaly retarded , that is the only conclusion i can come up with .
im glad you have the time n patience to stroke ollys balls but i dont .
 

Hepheastus420

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LOl heinz ive argued with this retard for months now , hes got no evidence to back up his belief in his god , ive been over n over everything you could ever go over about religion and belief , faith and everything else , im sorry but i think the guy is halucinating or mentaly retarded , that is the only conclusion i can come up with .
That's fine. But back yourself up.... or do you want to be like us?
 

Heisenberg

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LOl heinz ive argued with this retard for months now ,there is no evidence there , hes got no evidence to back up his belief in his god , ive been over n over everything you could ever go over about religion and belief , faith and everything else , im sorry but i think the guy is halucinating or mentaly retarded , that is the only conclusion i can come up with .
im glad you have the time n patience to stroke ollys balls but i dont .
Your use of phrases like 'stroking ollys balls' is an great example of how your are more interested in trivializing and dismissing opposition rather than refuting it. I have certainly busted oly's balls far more often than I've stroked them. I was responding to this statement--> im sorry but i cant listen to anything a believer says as i think they are mentally retarded. Which is a blanket statement, But lets talk about oly. If you have exhausted all efforts to refute oly and decided he is mentally retarded, then why are you here goading him into a fight? I've seen oly respond to reasoning and change his position at times (however slightly) which, if you have tried for months, to me suggests a problem with your communication methods rather than an indication of his mental state. I agree with pretty much all of your conclusions about god, just not with the sense of entitlement that you seem to think you deserve to insult and attack without provocation. I attack a persons premise, their rationale, and their conduct, but I never discount their value as a human being. I never trick someone into saying something stupid simply for the pleasure of pointing it out. (and neither has Hitchens) You poked oly with a stick and then criticized him for getting mad about it.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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lol hepatitus give it up sunshine , ive described how ive come to my conclusion , now its time for you to come up with why you choose to believe in your fairy bearded man floating in the sky < sniggers ) >
 

Heisenberg

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lol hepatitus give it up sunshine , ive described how ive come to my conclusion , now its time for you to come up with why you choose to believe in your fairy bearded man floating in the sky < sniggers ) >
Your explination of how you came to this conclusion is an argument from personal ignorance.

that is the only conclusion i can come up with
This is not a justification you would accept from a believer about God.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Your use of phrases like 'stroking ollys balls' is an great example of how your are more interested in trivializing and dismissing opposition rather than refuting it. I was responding to this statement--> im sorry but i cant listen to anything a believer says as i think they are mentally retarded. Which is a blanket statement, But lets talk about oly. If you have exhausted all efforts to refute oly and decided he is mentally retarded, then why are you here goading him into a fight? I've seen oly respond to reasoning and change his position at times (however slightly) which, if you have tried for months, to me suggests a problem with your communication methods rather than an indication of his mental state. I agree with pretty much all of your conclusions about god, just not with the sense of entitlement that you seem to think you deserve to insult and attack without provocation. I attack a persons premise, their rationale, and their conduct, but I never discount their value as a human being. I never trick someone into saying something stupid simply for the pleasure of pointing it out. You poked oly with a stick and then criticized him for getting mad about it.
i find it appealing to argue with people who are flawed .it gives me great pleasure destroying belief , as i know what harm belief in religion does to the world .
yes i have given up on'refuting' things deeply with people on here , as they put there fingers in there ears and go 'blah blah blah , as i said before you might have the time to try n teach olly and heph things , but ive gone over the basics with them many times and they refuse to listen, so ive resorted to there level im afraid .i respect your stance though .
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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i find it appealing to argue with people who are flawed .it gives me great pleasure destroying belief , as i know what harm belief in religion does to the world .
yes i have given up on'refuting' things deeply with people on here , as they put there fingers in there ears and go 'blah blah blah , as i said before you might have the time to try n teach olly and heph things , but ive gone over the basics with them many times and they refuse to listen, so ive resorted to there level im afraid .i respect your stance though .
it never gets boring 'poking olly ' with the stupid stick lmfao
 

Heisenberg

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i find it appealing to argue with people who are flawed .it gives me great pleasure destroying belief , as i know what harm belief in religion does to the world .
yes i have given up on'refuting' things deeply with people on here , as they put there fingers in there ears and go 'blah blah blah , as i said before you might have the time to try n teach olly and heph things , but ive gone over the basics with them many times and they refuse to listen, so ive resorted to there level im afraid .i respect your stance though .
Fair enough, you are now being honest rather than illegitimately defending yourself. However I must point out one more thing. When you say "i know what harm belief in religion does to the world" you are citing the need for progress and using it to justify counter-productive behavior. There is a reason you have not reached anyone through these boards, and I suspect it is not because these people are unreachable. Skepticism is a seed you can plant, it never grows right away. If you make reasonable arguments with sound logic, people are likely to remember. I'll admit that we do need to be persistent and assertive, but if you only make inflammatory comments designed to bully people into believing what you think is right, they will only remember the opposition and never consider the validity. If you know this and do it anyway, you no longer have the advantage of citing progress as your motivation, and must admit that it is done solely out of a perverse pleasure. I know skeptics that reach people everyday and make real strides towards academic and intellectual progress, and they never do it by insulting and fighting. The worthy goal is not to simply destroy belief, which is easy, but to actually dispel belief, which is hard.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Fair enough, you are now being honest rather than illegitimately defending yourself. However I must point out one more thing. When you say "i know what harm belief in religion does to the world" you are citing the need for progress and using it to justify counter-productive behavior. There is a reason you have not reached anyone through these boards, and I suspect it is not because these people are unreachable. Skepticism is a seed you can plant, it never grows right away. If you make reasonable arguments with sound logic, people are likely to remember. I'll admit that we do need to be persistent and assertive, but if you only make inflammatory comments designed to bully people into believing what you think is right, they will only remember the opposition and never consider the validity. If you know this and do it anyway, you no longer have the advantage of citing progress as your motivation, and must admit that it is done solely out of a perverse pleasure. I know skeptics that reach people everyday and make real strides towards academic and intellectual progress, and they never do it by insulting and fighting. The worthy goal is not to simply destroy belief, which is easy, but to actually dispel belief, which is hard.
yeah i agree deep down heinz , but im smoking some crazy sativa right now and it makes me childish , and giggly , i seriousley laugh out loud to myself whilst im on here arguing with the likes of hepatitus and wolly olly , i know what your saying is totaly true but im just havin a giggle .
 

Hepheastus420

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i find it appealing to argue with people who are flawed .it gives me great pleasure destroying belief , as i know what harm belief in religion does to the world .
yes i have given up on'refuting' things deeply with people on here , as they put there fingers in there ears and go 'blah blah blah , as i said before you might have the time to try n teach olly and heph things , but ive gone over the basics with them many times and they refuse to listen, so ive resorted to there level im afraid .i respect your stance though .
What is it that I'm ignoring?
 

Hepheastus420

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yeah i agree deep down heinz , but im smoking some crazy sativa right now and it makes me childish , and giggly , i seriousley laugh out loud to myself whilst im on here arguing with the likes of hepatitus and wolly olly , i know what your saying is totaly true but im just havin a giggle .
Lol, I'm not even arguing with you hahahaha. What is the point of trying to get rid of me and oly's beliefs?
 
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