• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Flourescents VS HPS , Metal Halide

0calli

Well-Known Member
HERE IS SOME GREAT INFO ON FLOURECENT LIGHT SPECTRUMS COMPARED TO THE SO HIGHLY PRAISED HPS OR METAL HALIDE JUDGE FOR YOURSELF !!!

It’s a Fact:
Plants just use RED and BLUE Light for Photosynthesis. Producing the other colors is a Waste! Any common encyclopedia will tell you this.

Use mainly blue bulbs in early growth phases and then switch to red for blooming. You get the exact light your plants need! That’s why our fixture gives you 3 real red and 3 real blue bulbs.






Keep your electric bill low. This fixture uses just a fraction of the Energy of hot running HID lights.
These are the Best Grow and Bloom Bulbs. Most common “grow” (cool) or “bloom”(warm) bulbs actually make about 2/3rds green light, which is reflected back by the plants. Our fixture delivers the real thing! Our fixture gives you 3 real red and 3 real blue bulbs. (The red bulbs actually do have a smidgen of blue light to keep plants growing)

These are Poor Man’s LEDs
When it comes to grow lights, it’s hard to beat the efficiency and raw power of today’s electronic fluorescent. The latest rage in grow lighting is LED’s. But these are probably best used in flashlights. LEDs have yet to reach the outputs and efficiencies claimed. At 116 watts, this electronic fluorescent beats the pants off those puny 16 watt panels with zillions of LEDs.

Get the biggest bang for the dollar!:


By just producing the Red & Blue light that plants use, you can replace hot, high wattage HPS or Metal Halide lights.


Specifications
4’ Long, Includes Power Cord
Mirror-Like Reflector Magnifies Light.
Uses 3 T8 Bulbs at a Time (includes 3 red and 3 blue bulbs)
High Output T8 Ballast delivers more light per Bulb
It’s 4 times brighter than ordinary shop light!
This is a great multi-purpose light: great grow light for full scale production, cool enough for close-in lighting for starting. We also offer it with less expensive full spectrum bulbs for growing and showing, and aquarium bulbs.

Fixture Shown with Alternate Bulbs



Bonus Application:





Adding Blue Light to HPS (High Pressure Sodium) Makes Plants Grow at Full Throttle


HPS is the work horse of most grow light systems. It produces the highest light flux using the least amount of energy. It has one main disadvantage: the dismal production of blue light. Blue light provides a critical signal that produces lush compact growth. It gets the plant through the vegetative phase with maximum growth.



Blue light activates crypto chrome pigments that stimulate correct vegetative growth. It decreases the spacing between leaves so you get compact, bushy plants. Take a look at the photo and see how lack of blue light stunts plant growth!


For this reason, growers often start plants under metal halide lights which have higher blue content. Later they switch to HPS to take advantage to it’s higher light energy content. The problem with using metal halide bulbs is that you sacrifice light output. Metal halide bulbs start out dimmer and lose output fast.​



At 40% of rated life, 400 watt metal halide bulbs typically only make 23,400 to 26,000 lumens of light. At the same point a 400 watt HPS bulb is making 45,000 lumens. Starting plants under metal halide results in a 42% loss of light. This means plants will be smaller.


Now you don’t have to comprise. You can use your HPS fixture and then just add our blue high output Fluorescent. Keep your plants growing at full throttle!



Blue Enhanced HPS Bulbs are Not the Answer


To over come the deficiencies of HPS bulbs, some manufacturers adulter bulbs with blue light emitting metals. These bulbs still make trivial amounts of blue light. Sure, they are often bragged up as making "30% more blue light", but 30% of nothing is still nothing!


"Blue" Metal Halides are not really Blue


Other venders promote the so called "blue" metal halide bulbs. If you study these super expensive bulbs, you will find that they are not a blue bulb at all. They are more of a 5500K to 6500K "daylight" bulb.


Only a portion of the power of the metal halide lamp is actually blue as shown below


Blue Fluorescents are the most Energy Efficient!


The best way to make blue light is with fluorescents! HID bulbs are just not very good at making blue light.


Just with standard daylight 6500K or 5000K bulbs, our fixture makes 76% of the average lumens of a 250 watt hortilux blue. But it only uses 40% of the energy to do it!-- That’s 90% more light for the money.


It’s gets even better when you switch to the blue fluorescentbulbs. You get the most blue light for the least amount of money!



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You could Save a lot of money if you could grow plants in the DARK
When I first went into Business, the best advice I ever got was “it’s easy to sell as long as you are in business to help people” We seek to serve you in part by divulging all sorts of good accurate information.
There is confusion and misinformation about how much light different sources generate. Below is a comparison. Notice how High Output T8’s make more light using less energy than the much more expensive compact fluorescent. Also notice that not all T8 fixture are the same, not withstanding that many are often labeled as “high output” when they are not. The amount of light that you get out of a fixture varies with the ballast used. It’s not necessarily the rated output printed on the lamp.

Fixture


Watts


Initial Lumens


Notes


Our 3 Lamp T8 High Output


116


10980


More Light, Less Energy


150 watt compact fluorescent


150


9200

Outrageous bulb replacement cost (claimed to equal 650w incandescent light bulb)

2 lamp F54T5/HO


117


10000



Phony 2 Lamp T8 Shop Light


35?


2850



Commercial Grade 2 Lamp T8


62


5016


Standard Normal Output






Come to Us for the True High Output T8’s
People say they are blown away with the brightness of our high output fixtures as they are compared side by side with competing normal output designs. Our customer’s really like our lights because they are so amazingly bright! Based on word of mouth reference, we have shipped lights all over the country.
Our competitors often see our lights and start saying that their ordinary output fixtures that they are selling are really high output too. What a dirty trick! It has happened over and over again. I feel sorry when I meet people that feel they have been cheated. A good part of our business is making rebuild kits to upgrade lights that are too dim.
What’s worse is that there is a new kind of shop light on the market. This consumer grade fixture makes exactly 50% of the rated output of the bulb. As one of our distributors who bought one to try said : “I only put one light bulb in it, because if you put in two, they will only run at half power.”
Here is the difference between normal and high output T8 fixtures. The T8 bulb was first developed in Europe as a 36 watt bulb. But when it was brought over here it was called a 32 watt bulb, but a standard fixture only drives the lamp at 27 or so watts.
So what does this all mean? A standard commercial grade T8 fixture will give you only 85 to 88% of 32 watt rating. The residential grade shop lights give you only 50% to 70% of the 32 watt rating . Our high output fixtures give 120% of the 32 watt rating. Additionally, there are different grades of bulbs, for instance our sunlight simulating 5K bulb makes an additional 9.6% more bonus light than a standard daylight bulb.
 

JealousGreen

Well-Known Member
I could totally see using these as side lights.. just like led's and other fluorescents they're never going to compare with a 1000 watt hps with co2 for flower size and density.
 

yesum

Well-Known Member
A bit overstated, but red and blue are the main colors needed. Plants also use green, just not that effectively. They use all the colors for some use, uv, far red, all of it.
 

0calli

Well-Known Member
will do already seeing a big differnce in the one plant its over and i got three of the same so 1 with it on 2 without well see
 
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