First grow [ Nirvana's Ice - Soil - CFLs ]

TheHardMargin

Active Member
Thanks S4C :) I was going to go on to explain to him that lights do infact play a part in the growth and production of the plant, but there are so many more factors that contribute to it... it's quite ignorant to state that you will get nothing of worth while from CFLs.

But I will indeed keep you guys updated as things progress. Plant 2 is fattening up much more then plant 1.
 

FELONIOUSCARPO

Active Member
I think your girls look great...I also am using 38 42w cfls, 4 100 w hps and 8 4ft floro tubes for my flower room....My room is 4x4....I like what I see with my plants they are starting to get buds... good luck I amonly on day 8 of flowering. Hope mine look as good as yours

jolly good show:hump::joint:
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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"First off, Im not 100% completely in love with your tone right now"

Why the attitude? bcuz I said U were making a halfway fair statement?
I coulda swore I said I agree with you that the yeild would not be the same, and that the plants would grow quicker and larger...

but as far as U making a judgement on the way his plants will turn out when he was only on day 9 of flowering isnt fair at all. You cant see the future, so how do you know he will only get shitty popcorn buds? Bcuz he's using CFL's? Everyones grow is different, and U never know what his strain is capable of doing unless U have grown it yourself. and he's only using 6 CFL's for 2 plants! how do you know what would change if he used 12, 24, or 48 CFLS? would it be shitty? according to you, no matter how many you use, in the end the results will be shitty," bcuz MH/HPS are the only way to go! "

That is such a closed-minded and outdated way of thinking. It doesnt matter what level of grow I am on, if I am convinced that CFL's are good for growing,thats my opinion. are they better than MH/HPS? hell no! but you can still get a great quality product with them. MH/HPS is not the ONLY way to go, buts at the moment it is only second best to the sun....thats what I believe and anyone who disagrees with that is gonna have to deal with it.

There is always room for improvement in every grow, even the best grower has room to improve. But if a person so chooses to have 6 CFL's to grow, who are you to tell them that their product is gonna be shitty if your not a psychic? Even if you grew with CFL's and had a shitty product, doesnt mean his product will be shitty, bcuz you have your way of growing and he has his...(lol alliteration is funny)..

so if you chose to respond, remember I never questioned the validity of your statement, only the fairness of it.



^^Exactly, and also it matters a lot what the grower does...not JUST what type of lights they use. But its ok, Im not even tryin to argue with a "Professional" fellow Pot Grower..bcuz Im just an amature, but THM you have my support, you're growing a great looking plant and I want you to finish this journal to prove to not just me and TTDID420 but to everyone that you are capable of growing great with CFL's.

Kudos
Everything in the red....
thats not attitude from me, you will know when i am giving you "attitude"
I know he is in the early stages of flowering, ive grown with CFL's many times before, i am saying this from experience man the BUD is NOT THE FUCKING SAME. thats what im saying, you agreed with me...when grown under CFL's it is Loser and Fluffy buds, When grown under a HPS there tight and covered in resin. He is growing 2 plants under 6 CFL's, yes and want pictures? just go check out Major_tokes grow journal... 5 CFL's for one plant, he even agree's the quantity is crap. Lol what kind of newb are you Defending CFL's. Yes if you have 12, 24 , 48 CFL's you can get higher yeilds and grow more plants, 2 plants under 6 CFL's i minimum, the buds he has will double in size. How do i know what will change if he uses more bulbs? ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID.... MORE LUMENS = MORE LIGHT = MORE PLANT GROWTH = BIGGER BUDS.

when did i once say if you used that many CFL's it would be shitty? you're Lumen count with that many bulbs would be compaired to a HPS, so no shit they would grow good. but why the fuck buy that many, thats stupid.
12, maybe even 20 CFL's is the max you should get. And im compairing them to a HPS.... so yeah there not going to be as good as a HPS. MH/HPS is the Correct way to go when growing indoors.

Who am i to say its going to be shitty? someone who has grown many times before. And i never said his plant was shitty, im saying if he use's a Mh/HPS it would be alot better, Hence you see the buds in the last pic... 1x bigger in not BAIRLY 2x bigger then day 9.... No im not a Physic dude i know how to grow marijuana tho. You arnt the smartest fish in the barrell are ya?
and yes Alliteration is funny, cause you have the iq of a 2 year old.

I never said Growing with CFL's is not capable... I said HPS is the way to go, and if you say other wise you're not to bright.

O and THM, i dont need eny tips from you mate... think i started growing today?

Why do i keep saying CFLs grow popcorn bud? because its true, if you guys are too Inexperienced to realize this yet... you will learn in time young grasshoppers. im not saying there is enything wrong with the finished product(IF YOU GET ENOUGH CFL's on them) Major_Toke has a CFL grow journal, the finished product is fine ill smoke it, but compaired to a HPS i would take the bud grown under the HPS when you grow with a HPS you will realize what i am talking about.... untill then forget it.

I coulda swore I said I agree with you that the yeild would not be the same
There ya said it you're self. NOT THE SAME Less quantity, Less Quality, Very little difference in flavor depends on nutrients.

When i say popcorn bud, LIGHT AND FLUFFY. CFL grown. HPS make Dense TIGHT HEAVY nugs.

GET IT YET?

Cheers mates

P.S - You need 38 42w with a 150w output thats... 1596watts... with a output of 5700watts... at 2750 lumens each is around one 600watt 95,000 lumens. all you can do is cover more area.... but why? If you Concentrate it, its alot better.
 

Kingdom Sky

Active Member
WELL I think they look like two gorgeous plants, and you clearly have passed your first grow with flying colors...regardless of the lights you have used. Anybody who says these plants are anything but a success has lost sight...keep it up and keep throwin up those nasty digital pictures!
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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WELL I think they look like two gorgeous plants, and you clearly have passed your first grow with flying colors...regardless of the lights you have used. Anybody who says these plants are anything but a success has lost sight...keep it up and keep throwin up those nasty digital pictures!
IM Not saying they arn't beautiful plants lol. read it. i all i said was upgrade to a mh/HPS next time. yes the plants are big, but shit was misunderstood.
 

TheHardMargin

Active Member
What's the point of even coming in my thread and posting this nonsense. All of us seem to be fine with growing with CFLs except you. Get over it, really.
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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What's the point of even coming in my thread and posting this nonsense. All of us seem to be fine with growing with CFLs except you. Get over it, really.

All i said was one thing, was not offending you. Spittin4cash started bitch, so i bitched back. i never said i had a problem mate, You should read it over.
CFL grows are fine, just its a fact, the buds are going to be light a fluffy, compaired to a HPS, no difference in Flavour, well a little bit, and most resin from a HPS.
like i said tho ive grown with CFL's and you need alotof them, your not going to have the hudge looking buds, you plants look sative. But they are going to be dank, just not as dank... i dont have eny problems with it.
 

ManInTheShed

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hey dude, good to hear somebody else is growing ice in this forum!! I have 5 ice plants at different stages. i have pics aswell. i would say that it is neither sativa or indica but a good strong mix of the two. From one bag of nirvanas ice seeds, not one plant will look the same. Some will look alot like indica, and vice versa.
My tallest ice plant is more sativa and doing fantastic, and the second biggest looks more indica. They
are both the same strains, but it is quite interesting to see how different they look from eachother. Have a look at the pics, there is a good example.
 

TheHardMargin

Active Member
You have to upload them to imageshack or photobucket or something like that. Not sure if this forum supports attachments.

Looking forward to seeing those pictures man! Haven't ran into many people that have grown Ice
 

hearmenow

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Great looking plants, HM!!! Congrats. I think you've done great, considering the resources you've used. Can you do better with better lights? Of course! But for Till to come on here and rip you a new one, I don't get it. I thouht this forum was to encourage each other and provide tips for improvement? I've seen Till do this before too to another poster. It appears he's more interested in pointing out how "smart" he is and how "ignorant" we new growers are. I don't get it. Ain't part of being a stoner is the fraternity and camaraderie?

Keep on keeping on, HM. Looks like you are doing great so far. I'm following and learning from you.
 

videoman40

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"Humidity around 32%, can't seem to get it any higher."
Dude at this point into your grow, I dont think you want it any higher.
Having said that one (small) point, I want to congratulate you on some beautiful looking plants you got yourself!
I think you got some really nice plants going!
Love the pics ALOT!
I cant wait to see the end product.
Peace
 

insertedtexthere

Active Member
HPS work wonders, I was gonna go with CFL's, but I said hey, why not spend the money because it will be worth it in the long run. Ive seen major improvements in my plant
 

TheHardMargin

Active Member
Thanks for the backup guys. It's not always simply "Use HPS because it is better." Some people have space constrictions, power usage, the list goes on. The bottom line is I am extremely happy with my results so far, and I don't need any negative feedback in my thread. Thanks. :)
 

FoodclubRootbeer

Active Member
CFLs seem to be working for you! GREAT GROW ! i was looking at the ice at nirvana ... cant wait for harvest so you can give us a smoke report.
 

greenbeast

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TheHardMargin check out my grow, I am using 4 45watt CFL'S rated at 2700k for the entire grow, My sativa plant is doing extremly well for 18 days into flowering.

be sure to check out my grow, will give you an idea what CFL'S can do.

HPS and MH are great but the cost is simply too much for me.
 
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