BillyBobJoe
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So if I was to grow a tomatoe plant in my room will it produce tomatoes indefinitely under 12/12 lighting?
Tomatoes under HID
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BillyBobJoe
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Ok so basically they just start producing whenever there ready regardless of light schedule?
Jogro
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Yup.
Its strain dependent, but once the plants are old enough they'll start flowering basically any time of year if planted outside.
Two years ago, I took a gamble on early spring and had sprouts in the ground in mid-February.
I was eating tomatoes before May.
watchhowIdoit
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Some varieties are determinant(produce only so long and die) and some are not determinant and will produce fruit as long you keep the plant healthy. Both will produce fruit under 12/12, will ripen slower than if grown outdoors though....
BillyBobJoe
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I don't think it needs to be pollinated.
amazingsandlad
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It's strain dependent but almost all commercial tomato plants can be self-pollinating. I keep a few veggies in the tent as a "cover crop," never really paying attention to light schedules or anything. They run on the girls' schedule. Regardless of light regimen or nutes given (I supplement the veggies on the same schedule as the girls, too), I usually get tomatoes for 4-6 months before the plants die. Apologies for the wavy orange photo, I'm not going to cut my HPS just for a snap of the veggies, but you might be able to make out the cherry tomatoes coming in in the background here...
Also have some okra going in the corner.
Cheers...
Also have some okra going in the corner.
Cheers...
Cannabisworks
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the fans in the room i assume you have will blow enough to make the produce as it does in the wind outdoors or by the bugs landing on them. shake them if you want to. will do same thing
carefull having some veggies with cannabis. asking for other diseases and problems on certain types. like cucumber and similar are real bad for pm. dont need to infect the others over a cucumber. and there are certain types of bugs that come in some veggy plants.
carefull having some veggies with cannabis. asking for other diseases and problems on certain types. like cucumber and similar are real bad for pm. dont need to infect the others over a cucumber. and there are certain types of bugs that come in some veggy plants.
Cannabisworks
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how is tomato. and cannabis related. not at all to me. old wise tale. we are most related to hops not tomato. wrong ph. wrong light. wrong light timing. wrong food needs. only similairty i know is thety grow in pots and soil and have green leaves. one makes fruit other makes flowers
amazingsandlad
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Huh, ylem? I've grown tomatoes from self-harvested seed for several years (in my outdoor garden). None of them breed true to the parental phenotypes (I like to grow weird tomatoes), leading me to conclude there was some cross-pollination. Did I just get lucky with randomly choosing non-sterile strains to begin with? I've never harvested seed from the veggies I grow in my tent, they're just there in case the landlord or coworkers show up, so I can't speak for the fertility of those, but I've never had a problem with getting sterile seed from the tomatoes I grow in my garden. You say "clone or seed no problem," where does the seed come from with a sterile plant?
Also, as far as introducing diseases, it probably isn't going to happen if you start everything from seed and keep everything indoors. Yes, I will admit having a diversity of plants will potentially attract a wider diversity of pests, but it just takes the vigilance you should have for the primary crop anyway to detect problems. The seeds you plant aren't going to bring diseases in. I've been growing off and on for almost 20 years with veggies in the indoor garden, and never lost a crop to pests or disease. Hell, I can count the number of grows even affected by pests or disease to begin with on 2 hands, and not all of those were necessarily due to the other stuff growing in my tent (or closet, or whatever I was growing in at the time). I've grown tomatoes, cucumber, peppers (hot and sweet), soybeans (don't do very well indoors), okra, garlic, citrus, and probably a bunch of other stuff I can't remember at the moment along with the primary crop, as well as kept batches of homebrewed beer going in the tent (for CO2 as well as the beer), with very few problems. Choose a determinate variety and treat it just like the MJ, keep a careful eye on everything, deal with problems immediately, and you'll be fine.
Also, as far as introducing diseases, it probably isn't going to happen if you start everything from seed and keep everything indoors. Yes, I will admit having a diversity of plants will potentially attract a wider diversity of pests, but it just takes the vigilance you should have for the primary crop anyway to detect problems. The seeds you plant aren't going to bring diseases in. I've been growing off and on for almost 20 years with veggies in the indoor garden, and never lost a crop to pests or disease. Hell, I can count the number of grows even affected by pests or disease to begin with on 2 hands, and not all of those were necessarily due to the other stuff growing in my tent (or closet, or whatever I was growing in at the time). I've grown tomatoes, cucumber, peppers (hot and sweet), soybeans (don't do very well indoors), okra, garlic, citrus, and probably a bunch of other stuff I can't remember at the moment along with the primary crop, as well as kept batches of homebrewed beer going in the tent (for CO2 as well as the beer), with very few problems. Choose a determinate variety and treat it just like the MJ, keep a careful eye on everything, deal with problems immediately, and you'll be fine.
Cannabisworks
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cauliflower come with catapillers as a seed. not all just something to watch for and i meant also that some are get disease easier than out plant. you look at cucumbers and they grow fuzz
n you wont get a disease per say direct from a seed. different room needs indoor so they wont all cope the same in same conditoins
n you wont get a disease per say direct from a seed. different room needs indoor so they wont all cope the same in same conditoins
watchhowIdoit
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If they do not produce pollen then how do they produce fruit???? And yes tomatoes are a fruit.
It does need to be pollinated. You can do that yourself with a small craft brush. Check Youtube for different methods as well.
Are these being grown as ornamentals or are these some type of indoor hybrid 'hothouse' tomatoes bred for the shorter light periods? Correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I knew it tomatoes were 'long day' plants. Meaning they need longer than 12 hours of light to grow/produce fruit properly. I'm really curious and would like to learn more.
chasta
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well since i first posted in this thread the tomato is now living on hps 12/12 next to my girls and it is about a foot tall and looking healthy we'll see if i get any fruit in say what 60 days or so . should be right on track with the herbs . also toms get ripe and produce most fruit in the fall when the days are getting short right before the first freeze so my 12/12 cycle should work i think .
Cannabisworks
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google light cyles or seasons for tomato and see they dont regulate to times like cannabis does
Tomato seeds germinate best at 80 degrees, and should be mostly up in 5 to 12 days. Remove any cover you may have on them as soon as they begin popping up. The fresh sprouts should be kept 4 to 6 inches under fluorescent lighting. The light should be kept on 18 to 24 hours a day. When they are 1 1/2 inches tall, carefully transplant them into their own 6 inch containers.
Tomato Plant Care
The easiest step of how to grow tomatoes. Keep them under 2 or 3 fluorescent lights that you leave on 18 to 24 hours every day. I usually feed them Maxsea 16-16-16 at this point, although they could probably use even more nitrogen (the first number). The strength of the solution is about 600 ppm, which is 1 rounded teaspoon of Maxsea/gallon. I also add 10 ml/gallon Thrive Alive B1.The ideal temperatures for growth are 70-75 degrees during the day and 65-67 degrees at night. When the plants reach 12 inches or more, they may need transplanting to one gallon containers. After 6 weeks or 8 weeks, your plants should be just about ready to begin fruiting them.
Begin Flowering your Tomatoes
Flowering is one of the trickiest parts of how to grow tomatoes indoors. You will need to be familiar with how to force flowering in plants. Some tomatoes flower in 60 days and others take up to 80 days, beginning from the time you force flowering. Just as you begin this process, you want to make your final transplant into 3 gallon containers.For the first two weeks, you want to feed them heavy with a 10-52-70 or similar fertilizer. Each time they need water give them food also at 800 ppm, which would be a little over half of the recommended "full strength" on the directions. Keep in mind you are feeding them each time you water them. For the rest of the season, feed them 16-16-16 or similar at 800ppm.
http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/how-to-grow-tomatoes.html
Tomato seeds germinate best at 80 degrees, and should be mostly up in 5 to 12 days. Remove any cover you may have on them as soon as they begin popping up. The fresh sprouts should be kept 4 to 6 inches under fluorescent lighting. The light should be kept on 18 to 24 hours a day. When they are 1 1/2 inches tall, carefully transplant them into their own 6 inch containers.
Tomato Plant Care
Begin Flowering your Tomatoes
Flowering is one of the trickiest parts of how to grow tomatoes indoors. You will need to be familiar with how to force flowering in plants. Some tomatoes flower in 60 days and others take up to 80 days, beginning from the time you force flowering. Just as you begin this process, you want to make your final transplant into 3 gallon containers.For the first two weeks, you want to feed them heavy with a 10-52-70 or similar fertilizer. Each time they need water give them food also at 800 ppm, which would be a little over half of the recommended "full strength" on the directions. Keep in mind you are feeding them each time you water them. For the rest of the season, feed them 16-16-16 or similar at 800ppm.
http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/how-to-grow-tomatoes.html