snew
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Finally something worth my attention. You really have a beautiful grow. I would love to see you plants first hand. Really nice.
12-1 lighting schedule, has anyone actually tried this?
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journey1111
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Wow, easy does it now.
By now I am pretty sure that this is more than just a "silly idea".
Some people think they know everything I guess
http://www.cannabisdynamics.com/2011/08/29/121-lighting-for-optimum-growth-and-savings/
Interesting comments at the bottom of that page
Uncle Ben
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If you want to go with popular thought (in spite of the fact that the first poster contradicts your claims regarding Google search yields) then go ahead. Doesn't mean it's correct or the best way to go. If you're hard up for energy and can't pay for it, then you need to get out of the business. If you like playing up cannabis to something other than what it really is, a weed, then go ahead too.
It's all about photosynthesis as it relates to a plant's light saturation point and how phytochrome plays into the equation. Phytochrome, a hormone controls a plant's growing response depending on the amount found in the tissue. This isn't my opinion, it's botanical fact. Do your homework. Mel Frank explains it well.
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azman
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these look beauitful, proof it does infact work. will be interested in final weight and your opinion as to wether it did reduce yield, your opinion will count for so much more as you have had the balls to try it.
also im sorry to hear for your loss brother.
snew
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I not in a business. I would think a significant number of people here are not in a business. But are trying to grow marijuana discreetly and efficiently. I like the size plant come out of veg, within the time frame I have. Everything I grow is for me, I don't sell it. Every expense counts for my medicine.
The plants are healthy and seem to show flowering faster. I will look at speed, quality and quantity when finished.
Uncle Ben
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Lot's of things "work".
We discussed the lighting thingie on a solid botanical basis here. http://riddlem3.com/index.php/topic,3291.msg68825.html#msg68825
Let's look carefully at the presentation based on a solid foundation of botany. A plant requires a certain amount of light to produce enough simple and complex carbos to carry it thru to senesce. If you want to extend that time period out with weird lighting regiments, fine. http://www.theweedblog.com/how-to-use-the-121-lighting-method-for-efficient-marijuana-cultivation/
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Ah oh, bad start. We have a conspiracy, so they say.
And then there's me that compromises both camps with a 20/4 during veg. And gawd does it "work" - https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html
Wait minute. A cutting is a plant part with a unit (leaves) that produce carbos. I thought you said night time processes "energy" into growth? A plant is a plant, cloning or otherwise.
No you're not. You're extending the food making process. Again, it's an issue of "at what point do we have a light saturation point?" and how quickly do you want to finish a plant maintaining the highest degree of cultural potential.
Truth is you're restriking the lamp (HID's) so often you're reducing its life expectancy. The said light schedule (i.e. 1 hour on 5.5 hours off) will not produce the maximum amount of carbos a plant is capable of, so, you just extended the time of vegetation compared to someone doing a "more normal" 20/4.
Got it.
I guess if you're running a real large garden, it might be advantageous to extend the growing period.
That specific genetic code regarding a flowering response is controlled by the amount of phytochrome that is produced by the plant. With cannabis, a certain point is reached whereby the phytochrome is destroyed due to an internal flag dictated by a longer night. With the typical mutt, that could be 14/10 that triggers the flowering response, the standard photoperiod being 12/12. Any other period that provides for more than that is meaningless as far as phytochrome plant process controlling is concerned.
You haven't accomplished anything other than delaying harvest. This guy needs to learn something about botany and what makes a plant tick. This is about as lame as folks using bloom foods exclusively during the flowering response which induces leaf loss and then they wonder why they ended up with popcorn buds and lousy looking plants.
Smoke n mirrors. Correct me if I'm wrong people but he cherry picked a garden of young plants and then posted the top of 4" cola without any source of where the photo came from.
The fact that he doesn't use closely placed reflecting panels around the garden speaks volumes too. There's a 30% light loss workin' fer ya regarding the photons the garden receives!
My ass is just fine. Maybe a little big at my age but rock hard with muscle gained from farming.
Uncle Ben
still cant see the point of your posts uncle ben other then creating conflict ... i use the 12-1 and im not going to change .. you have your opinion i have mine .. i like the way my plants grow and they are healthy .. so no matter how many cut and paste jobs you do im still going to use it .. as are other people ... i do respect your advice on other matters, but in this one i will trust what i see.
happy growin
happy growin
azman
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im seeing his negatvity but nothing concrete, for arguments sake lets say our posts are a stoners idea, theres nothing to say that yours arent of similar value?
as said when my crop is finished i will be the judge on if this works for me or not,
irrespective of how many flaws or articles you can cunjure up against it.
if i can save even a light cost and maintain decent output it will be a good thing.
and as a plant earth lover i would have thought reducing your carbon footprint would be a good thing too.
as said when my crop is finished i will be the judge on if this works for me or not,
irrespective of how many flaws or articles you can cunjure up against it.
if i can save even a light cost and maintain decent output it will be a good thing.
and as a plant earth lover i would have thought reducing your carbon footprint would be a good thing too.
well azman ... like i said to lilbsdad ... trolls will be trolls .. there will always be people shouting your wrong because your doing something different and when you pay them no mind, they resort to making condenceding remarks ... i guess it just makes them feel better ..
Uncle Ben
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Out of curiousity regarding the feel of this thread, I decided to click on page 10 and read a few posts, and......
Someone gets it.
Notice exhibit a) and exhibit b) above, underlined.
hy·poc·ri·sy
noun \hi-ˈpä-krə-sē also hī-\
plural hy·poc·ri·sies
Definition of HYPOCRISY
1
: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
azman
Active Member
ive only got a few days i reckon tbh, im not going to flush just 48 hours of darkness and chop.
are you hppy wi the stage you are at?
azman
Active Member
you tied them down? Where in nature does this happen, this is completely unnatural.
lowrider2000
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I posted this back on page 30 but i think it was over looked
i have herd of the 18 hour light schedule 6 on 12 off and that basically takes advantage of the plant producing and using light best in the first 6 hours of the day.......... it saves 6 hours a day they say finishes 2 weeks sooner with only a slight decrease in yield............and it makes sence
i have herd of the 18 hour light schedule 6 on 12 off and that basically takes advantage of the plant producing and using light best in the first 6 hours of the day.......... it saves 6 hours a day they say finishes 2 weeks sooner with only a slight decrease in yield............and it makes sence
