Experiment: Clone direct to flowering, diminishing light schedule...

[maximum]

Idea:

Is to test the final yeild of a plant that is cloned during flowering (1 week into it). The clone is put into a jiffy pod. The jiffy pod is inside a dome. Look at my pictures. The dome is placed inside the flowering room. It will root under flowering schedule and put directly into a 5 gallon bucket with nutes. No veg cycle. Direct to flower. But here is the catch. The light schedule is starting at 11on - 13 off. In 2 weeks the lighting is reduced by half an hour. 10.5 on - 13.5 off. Every 2 weeks we drop the light by half an hour. I will then test the yield. (A typical yield for me is 45grams dried weight to 75grams dry weight per plant using 18/6 to veg and 12/12 to flower. But I never had this much CFL lights before lol)

Info:

3 cuttings taken. 1 Burmese kush. 1 mandala#1, 1 NYC diesel. ( there are actually 4 cuttings but one will leave the room in case this lighting schedule doesnt yield well.) Clones are in a JIFFY POD. I applied rooting hormone to each cutting. 42watt 6500K CFL bulb hangs above them.

Nutrients:

General hydroponics. Plants are currently on Flora series( grow, micro, bloom). First week of flowering was 50ml of each. Second week I start
FloraGro- 0
FloraMicro-50ml
FloraBloom-100ml
and I will continue that schedule for 4 weeks. Im really just using the nutrient calculator here http://www.genhydro.com/calculator/index.html. Ive used other nute schedules but this is my favorite.

Tent is a secret jardin dark room 2. 4x4. http://www.secretjardin.eu/index/catalogue/objet-30/lang-en

Air cleaner is a cann filter 50. http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AOCCF050&eq=&Tp=

Lighting is CFL bulbs:
6 x 42watt 6500K
6 x 26 watt 2700k
2 x 105 watt 6500k
Total light 618watts (plus 42watts for the clones)
Veg cycle: 18/6

Buckets have air stones and full of water with nutes. Simple bubbler.

 

[asaph]

great, i'm subbed:

two comments:
1. I think 5gl is much more than they can use. It's a waste of space and water, also not so healthy for your plants maybe.
2. 620 watts of cfl... you know that is totally counterproductive right? why not HPS?

 

[maximum]

1) How big is a good size?
2) I never tried hps. Really just went with what was working for me. I will try it one day Im looking forward to it. I usually average low end 45grams and my highest was 75grams dried bud. Ive been content with it I guess, and Im scared of helicopters with those heat things. I still have some from my last november grow.

 

[tellno1]

i use 2 to 3 gal pails .. because 12-1 keeps them short .. the old rule of thumb was , a gal per foot .. so i know mine end up being around 2.5 to 3ft ... just works for me but you know ill be here to watch lol

 

[maximum]

i use 2 to 3 gal pails .. because 12-1 keeps them short .. the old rule of thumb was , a gal per foot .. so i know mine end up being around 2.5 to 3ft ... just works for me but you know ill be here to watch lol

ok great another thing for me to try. looking forward to it thanks man. I can save on nutes too this way.

 

[tellno1]

well saves the plant from having to fill such an area too .. i think too big of pot slows flowering ... seems that way for me anyways lol

 

[maineyankee]

i use 2 to 3 gal pails .. because 12-1 keeps them short .. the old rule of thumb was , a gal per foot .. so i know mine end up being around 2.5 to 3ft ... just works for me but you know ill be here to watch lol

I was thinking of also using 5 gallon buckets until you stated that "gallon per foot" rule of thumb. This would also save space and nutes if one was in a confined space ( as many of us are ) ... Thanks for the refresher course Tell No 1

 

[maineyankee]

I am sub'ed to this thread ... I think it would be of great reference down the road to see if your theroy works ... Good Luck my friend

 

[tellno1]

lol not a problem bro .. we all forget sometimes lol ... me more then i should lol

 

[asaph]

I'm not sure about this but I think 600w CFLs produce more heat than 600w HPS. They just use less electricity for lights, so more goes to heat waste.

for flowering from clone, I would think even 1gl would be enough, but you can go with 1.5-2gl if you wanna be on the safe side I guess.

 

[maximum]

I'm not sure about this but I think 600w CFLs produce more heat than 600w HPS. They just use less electricity for lights, so more goes to heat waste.

for flowering from clone, I would think even 1gl would be enough, but you can go with 1.5-2gl if you wanna be on the safe side I guess.

Well I will have to use a smaller bucket to fit everything but I dont want to use a smaller bucket because then its harder to compare no? Should they all be 5 gallon size for the purpose of the test since I already started like that?

The 600watts cfl produce more heat than a hps?! I thought it was the other way around man. Thats why I can put the cfl so close to the plants.

 

[tellno1]

i donno bro i wouldnt think it would matter as long as they are all in the same size ... but that said stress would be a factor .. and yes bro 600w hps is way hotter then cfl's

 

[maximum]

ok well anyways Ill keep updating this thread as things progress. but, clones could take a week to ten days to root. thats how long these plants usually take. if you guys think of suggestions or critique just let me know. Im hungry to learn.

 

[tellno1]

are you going to put a dome over them for a week or so? like a cut off 2ltr coke bottle?

 

[maximum]

are you going to put a dome over them for a week or so? like a cut off 2ltr coke bottle?

after it roots I just put them direct to bucket in the tent. I never had problems.

 

[tellno1]

i actually have never tried without a dome .... have to give it a go myself .. beats keeping a bunch of cutoff coke bottles lol

 

[maximum]

i actually have never tried without a dome .... have to give it a go myself .. beats keeping a bunch of cutoff coke bottles lol

I did that with my tomato plant because it got really droopy when I took it out of the dome. My dope just stayed upright.

 

[azman]

looking foward to this . im subbed. and some +rep for trying when i can that is lol

 

[wheezer]

I've never had any luck with any strain, doing 12/12 from clone. they just don't have enough roots to grow a decent bud. They have always been very small when I tried it, good luck though, maybe you can pull it off. I think it's hard for the plant to produce roots and flowers at the same time is the problem with it.

 

[maximum]

I've never had any luck with any strain, doing 12/12 from clone. they just don't have enough roots to grow a decent bud. They have always been very small when I tried it, good luck though, maybe you can pull it off. I think it's hard for the plant to produce roots and flowers at the same time is the problem with it.

yea I think it will be shitty yield too. my prediction is that it will be a pretty low yield compared to the mother I took the clone from.