lordjin
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Oh, what's that? I see leaves that aren't curling.
Catnip and Green crack
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Slivers
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Oh stop you're going to make me blush.
lordjin
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Lol.Oh stop you're going to make me blush.
Pretty soon everyone's gonna flock to your journal and leave me all alone. Watch.
Slivers
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Well that's debatable... You are doing the scrog thing... and you know how the kids love scrog. I'm doing SOG and that isn't as admirable or something like that. Not sure why... It's so easy... Stuff plants in system... watch them grow... cut off lower 1/3rd at week 3. Takes no more than 30 minutes a day. -If- that. Everyone likes the little guy, who can blame them, I'm on their side. I wanna see you pull huge buds off 2 plants... just sounds more epic. However my logical side knows that 10-16 ounces in 2 months is just to nice to pass up. I want my weed... and I want it NAO!
With all that being said, the business side of this post.
Ph: 5.8
ppm: 380
Biggest plant here could prolly take more... Unless she shows deficiency, I'm going to keep it where it is. Res water goes down, ppm doesn't. That means the plants are just right. Also no signs of nute burn on any of them.
Slivers
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Was bored tonight and did an experiment... Measured the big plant at 13 inches, 4 hours later measured it at 13 inches 1/8th. So this is angry growth? She's been averaging an inch a day since day 10... I'd be interested to see if she pushes 15 inches tomorrow. I will be posting pics. :0
lordjin
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MJ is harmful to cats? Someone tell that to my cat. He loves to much on my leaves. But then he also likes strawberry stems / leaves.
lordjin
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The beginning of angry growth, yes. The most frightening example of angry growth was my Platinum OG grow. Those suckers were growin more than an inch a day at one point.
Watch your vigor. It might make you happy at first, but if it gets out of hand, it'll be a different story.
It looks like they're comin' around big time. Nicely done.
Slivers
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Yea that's why I got those poles there, give me something to tie them down when they start to get crazy... these aren't supposed to grow bigger than 33-40 inches tho, i have enough room for that.
Slivers
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Ethics In Marijuana
Let's talk about marijuana. The drug has been illegal in all 50 states since 1927 and until recently it has been made legal in 16 states to date. Some of the ethical questions that pose marijuana are of great debate in today's political ring. Is it addictive? Why is it legal on a state level, but not a federal level? What happens when dispensaries shut down? What other uses does it have? Is it right to deny sick treatment for their ailments? Why is heroin and PCP in the same category as marijuana? Is it right for federal agents to take down the same dispensaries that pay taxes? How should it be distributed? What about alcohol, cocaine, ecstasy?
Let's talk about money. To date the US government has spent 43,505,384,613 of taxpayers money on the "Drug War." That's not many years combined, that's for this year alone. We still have a few months to go, and that clock keeps ticking, our federal budget keeps being drained. This includes things like people locked up for possession of drugs. People who would otherwise be left alone.
What are the cons? Everyone knows that drugs have cons to them. People whom engage in the use of meth age rapidly. Those who use heroin risk overdose and perhaps a swift death. Marijuana use has a few unique to itself. Lung, throat, and mouth cancer a presumed to be in that list. However there is no direct link, just like in tobacco. That's really not much of a concern however, as new ways of ingesting it have become available to the public. Vaporizers all but eliminate those cancerous risks. Isn't marijuana addictive though? On a certain level marijuana's addiction compared to other drugs like cocaine and heroine the addictiveness of marijuana is about the same as coffee. Taking a break every few months is also recommended to avoid Marijuana withdrawal syndrome. Which includes symptoms like cold/hot sweats. Frustration and grumpiness. Compared to it's legal cousin alcohol, continued use of that drug may result in death from withdrawal if the user drinks frequently.
State versus Federal has been something rather recent. In 1996 proposition 215 went into effect. Making the distribution, possession, and consumption of marijuana legal in the state of California with the recommendation of a physician. Since then federal agents have raided clubs opened to the public for the sale and possession of cannabis. Our federal government is literally biting the hand that feeds. Some cities dispensaries pay as much a 5% sales tax to the city. That money goes to our roads, our schools, and our communities. Where does that money go if dispensaries don't exist? The trafficking of drugs across the border from those less inclined to do the right thing. Gangs and cartels take that money and put it towards their own special interest. To say the least there is casualties of war because of this.
The feds came in and shut them down, what happened to the crime rates locally?
Surprisingly crime rates rose 59% within three-tenths of a mile of a closed dispensary compared to an open one. Move up to about six-tenths of a mile and you'll see a 24% increase still. In fact a study done in Denver, Colorado found not evidence that dispensaries increase crime. Police have even asked dispensaries to use surveillance tapes to investigate crimes unrelated to selling marijuana. Dispensaries are upholding the law. Not all of them, but most of them. Not only that, they are willing to help the community in any way. Many of which participating in food drives and raising money for breast cancer.
What other uses does marijuana have? Well besides being a pain reliever, marijuana has been used to treat Bi-Polar Disorder, PTSD in returned war veterans, Multiple Sclerosis, Arthritis, Chemotherapy(Including getting patients to eat) and many more uses are being discovered to this day. The production of the plant can also be used to make hemp, a product that has been used to make clothing, shampoos and soaps, and many mores. Cannabis is said to be the plant of 30,000 uses due to all the ways it's grown and used right here in the U.S.
What can we do? Well you would think we'd need to take a look at the Netherlands. Nope, try again. Portugal. Yep, Portugal has completely obliterated it's criminal penalties for the possession of drugs, not just marijuana, but heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine. Hell of a drug that cocaine, "more Americans have tried cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana." A little comparison between America vs Portugal shows that Portugal is winning. With a low lifetime marijuana use in people over the age of 15 in Portugal a mere 10%. While in the U.S. kids over the age of 12 are at a whooping 39.8%. If you have 3 kids, 1 is using in the U.S. Furthermore, drug rates are falling in Portugal as seventh through ninth graders drop from 14.1% to 10.6%. Drug use in teens has also declined. Lifetime heroin use from 16 to 18 year olds dropped from 2.5% to 1.8%. There has also been a decline in HIV infections in drug users by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. All that money saved on enforcement in the country allowed for more drug-free treatment. Not to mention that marijuana is a multibillion dollar industry that could jump start the economy like a cat on a hot tin roof.
This country needs to take a utilitarian approach to the subject. "For the greater good of all." With over 52% in support of marijuana today it's only a matter of time. Not to mention drugs fund terrorism when money is in the hands of the wrong people. Yes there is a downside to legalization, and that's the risk of addiction. Which is why we will have billions of dollars to spend on lower percentages of individuals who opt out for drug treatment programs which could be easily initiated with the tax review made from it's distribution. Legalize it!
Sources
http://actionamerica.org/drugs/wodclock.shtml
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/21/local/la-me-0928-marijuana-dispensaries-20110921
https://www.rollitup.org/content/289-approval-marijuana-hits-record-high.html
Let's talk about marijuana. The drug has been illegal in all 50 states since 1927 and until recently it has been made legal in 16 states to date. Some of the ethical questions that pose marijuana are of great debate in today's political ring. Is it addictive? Why is it legal on a state level, but not a federal level? What happens when dispensaries shut down? What other uses does it have? Is it right to deny sick treatment for their ailments? Why is heroin and PCP in the same category as marijuana? Is it right for federal agents to take down the same dispensaries that pay taxes? How should it be distributed? What about alcohol, cocaine, ecstasy?
Let's talk about money. To date the US government has spent 43,505,384,613 of taxpayers money on the "Drug War." That's not many years combined, that's for this year alone. We still have a few months to go, and that clock keeps ticking, our federal budget keeps being drained. This includes things like people locked up for possession of drugs. People who would otherwise be left alone.
What are the cons? Everyone knows that drugs have cons to them. People whom engage in the use of meth age rapidly. Those who use heroin risk overdose and perhaps a swift death. Marijuana use has a few unique to itself. Lung, throat, and mouth cancer a presumed to be in that list. However there is no direct link, just like in tobacco. That's really not much of a concern however, as new ways of ingesting it have become available to the public. Vaporizers all but eliminate those cancerous risks. Isn't marijuana addictive though? On a certain level marijuana's addiction compared to other drugs like cocaine and heroine the addictiveness of marijuana is about the same as coffee. Taking a break every few months is also recommended to avoid Marijuana withdrawal syndrome. Which includes symptoms like cold/hot sweats. Frustration and grumpiness. Compared to it's legal cousin alcohol, continued use of that drug may result in death from withdrawal if the user drinks frequently.
State versus Federal has been something rather recent. In 1996 proposition 215 went into effect. Making the distribution, possession, and consumption of marijuana legal in the state of California with the recommendation of a physician. Since then federal agents have raided clubs opened to the public for the sale and possession of cannabis. Our federal government is literally biting the hand that feeds. Some cities dispensaries pay as much a 5% sales tax to the city. That money goes to our roads, our schools, and our communities. Where does that money go if dispensaries don't exist? The trafficking of drugs across the border from those less inclined to do the right thing. Gangs and cartels take that money and put it towards their own special interest. To say the least there is casualties of war because of this.
The feds came in and shut them down, what happened to the crime rates locally?
Surprisingly crime rates rose 59% within three-tenths of a mile of a closed dispensary compared to an open one. Move up to about six-tenths of a mile and you'll see a 24% increase still. In fact a study done in Denver, Colorado found not evidence that dispensaries increase crime. Police have even asked dispensaries to use surveillance tapes to investigate crimes unrelated to selling marijuana. Dispensaries are upholding the law. Not all of them, but most of them. Not only that, they are willing to help the community in any way. Many of which participating in food drives and raising money for breast cancer.
What other uses does marijuana have? Well besides being a pain reliever, marijuana has been used to treat Bi-Polar Disorder, PTSD in returned war veterans, Multiple Sclerosis, Arthritis, Chemotherapy(Including getting patients to eat) and many more uses are being discovered to this day. The production of the plant can also be used to make hemp, a product that has been used to make clothing, shampoos and soaps, and many mores. Cannabis is said to be the plant of 30,000 uses due to all the ways it's grown and used right here in the U.S.
What can we do? Well you would think we'd need to take a look at the Netherlands. Nope, try again. Portugal. Yep, Portugal has completely obliterated it's criminal penalties for the possession of drugs, not just marijuana, but heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine. Hell of a drug that cocaine, "more Americans have tried cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana." A little comparison between America vs Portugal shows that Portugal is winning. With a low lifetime marijuana use in people over the age of 15 in Portugal a mere 10%. While in the U.S. kids over the age of 12 are at a whooping 39.8%. If you have 3 kids, 1 is using in the U.S. Furthermore, drug rates are falling in Portugal as seventh through ninth graders drop from 14.1% to 10.6%. Drug use in teens has also declined. Lifetime heroin use from 16 to 18 year olds dropped from 2.5% to 1.8%. There has also been a decline in HIV infections in drug users by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. All that money saved on enforcement in the country allowed for more drug-free treatment. Not to mention that marijuana is a multibillion dollar industry that could jump start the economy like a cat on a hot tin roof.
This country needs to take a utilitarian approach to the subject. "For the greater good of all." With over 52% in support of marijuana today it's only a matter of time. Not to mention drugs fund terrorism when money is in the hands of the wrong people. Yes there is a downside to legalization, and that's the risk of addiction. Which is why we will have billions of dollars to spend on lower percentages of individuals who opt out for drug treatment programs which could be easily initiated with the tax review made from it's distribution. Legalize it!
Sources
http://actionamerica.org/drugs/wodclock.shtml
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/21/local/la-me-0928-marijuana-dispensaries-20110921
https://www.rollitup.org/content/289-approval-marijuana-hits-record-high.html
Slivers
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Well I've been making daily updates to this journal, I want to encourage people viewing to post. What do you want to see? I'm at a loss as to why no one is commenting. Is it because I'm not growing in dirt? All the dirt threads seem to get instant response even if someone has a turd seedling inside a pot of nasty ass dirt.
Stop hatin' and go make some bacon.
Stop hatin' and go make some bacon.
lordjin
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Lol. Come on, people. This man wants feedback from more than just one person. Won't you offer your insightful and complimentary comments?Well I've been making daily updates to this journal, I want to encourage people viewing to post. What do you want to see? I'm at a loss as to why no one is commenting. Is it because I'm not growing in dirt? All the dirt threads seem to get instant response even if someone has a turd seedling inside a pot of nasty ass dirt.
Stop hatin' and go make some bacon.
Bumpy Bump.
Slivers
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I can want all I want. I ain't gonna get it today.
Slivers
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Cleaned out the res yesterday. New bud sites are forming on the tops of all the plants. I need to chop some stuff off so I'll most likely do that today, I'm most likely going to attempt to clone the things I cut, just to see what happens. I hear allot of hearsay around doing that, so I want to see what happens.
Ph: 5.7
PPM: 380
Ph: 5.7
PPM: 380
Slivers
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Thank you.
Slivers
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Big photo update today. Couple pictures of just forming budsites. They are pretty small so far... Also the growth on the biggest plant has slowed a little. I wonder if this has to do with the fact that it's flowering. Grow room is starting to look and smell like a jungle. I can't wait to see what happens next. If anyone has any experience with sog and has any input on what I might harvest from my first 6 plants... I'm all ears.
Slivers
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So it's day 19... Last night I noticed something yellowing on the tops of one of my top leaves. Now this is an aero system, which means any problems I do have are going to be multiplied x 1000 in speed. This is spreading at an uncomfortable rate for me, why uncomfortable? How would you feel if 1 of your leaves had a little brown spot on it. I'd be shitting, and I am.
So here's the problematic portion of this post.
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Other than that everything looks amazing. I'm not sure if that's nute burn or what... but I doubt it with the PPMs I have. I'm on the low end still, I'm afraid to turn up the volume on nutes because I know less is more and more can mean death. So I don't fuck with them much. All the others look great, normal.... I couldn't be happier with their growth. I'd also note that I trimmed the lower 1/3rd of the plants off yesterday. That was fun.
I also found an icon that represents this journal, if you don't get it, you're probably older than the cosmos.(search 'forever alone')
So here's the problematic portion of this post.
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Other than that everything looks amazing. I'm not sure if that's nute burn or what... but I doubt it with the PPMs I have. I'm on the low end still, I'm afraid to turn up the volume on nutes because I know less is more and more can mean death. So I don't fuck with them much. All the others look great, normal.... I couldn't be happier with their growth. I'd also note that I trimmed the lower 1/3rd of the plants off yesterday. That was fun.
I also found an icon that represents this journal, if you don't get it, you're probably older than the cosmos.(search 'forever alone')