Feminized Seeds

[JimmyRecard]

Hello all. Don't quite know if this is the right place too post this but I always see in journals people saying they bought 10 femenized seeds, 8 were female and 2 male so I was wondering does anyone know how many males or females they generally get in a pack of femenized Barneys Farm Tangerine dream? I have heard people say some companies are better then others when it comes to femenized seeds.

Cheers

 

[SmeLLyTreeZ]

In my experience if my fem seeds popped they where all female. I've picked up seeds from nirvana, g-13 labs, Reserva Privada, Kannabia, Buddha seeds, Barneys farm and more..

 

[firsttimer86]

There all Female. The thing is with them is the chances of them turning hermi is greater than with reg seeds. As you say there are some that are a greater risk than others but remember any fem seeds are going to be carring the herm trait so make sure you have your set up right.

 

[themanwiththeplan]

In my experience if my fem seeds popped they where all female. I've picked up seeds from nirvana, g-13 labs, Reserva Privada, Kannabia, Buddha seeds, Barneys farm and more..

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There all Female. The thing is with them is the chances of them turning hermi is greater than with reg seeds. As you say there are some that are a greater risk than others but remember any fem seeds are going to be carring the herm trait so make sure you have your set up right.

no no no not true.

i go through this a 100 times a week it seems like but here we go...one more time...

Regular seeds are made from male and female parents (ie. mom gets knocked up by dad then they produce offspring.)

male (xy) and female (xx) can produce either an x or a y offspring.

feminized beans are made of two FEMALE parents. so xx + xx = xx everytime. its impossible to get a male from a feminized bean. hermies are ONLY possible IF the breeder used a bad female parent (ie. one that has the hermie trait).

if two females (that dont have the hermie trait) are bred together EVERY BEAN will be a female at maturity. ive grown 20-25 feminized beans from all different breeders and i have NEVER seen a male. A hermie can happen but its generally one or two male parts and not a full on infestation.

i put this to the test though by taking a feminized bean...grew it to 1ft tall then began light poisoning it (to see if it would hermie under poor grow conditions) i also fed it poor nutrient mixtures (ie. give flower nutes in veg, give veg nutes in flower, etc) basically stress it to hell.

it never hermie'd! i eventually gave up after 1 month of flowering.

it didnt hermie because the breeders (dutch passion by the way) must have took the time to select plants from genetic lines that aren't likely to hermie.

hermies are possible with regular or female beans though. its not a problem with feminized seeds.

 

[firsttimer86]

no no no not true.

i go through this a 100 times a week it seems like but here we go...one more time...

Regular seeds are made from male and female parents (ie. mom gets knocked up by dad then they produce offspring.)

male (xy) and female (xx) can produce either an x or a y offspring.

feminized beans are made of two FEMALE parents. so xx + xx = xx everytime. its impossible to get a male from a feminized bean. hermies are ONLY possible IF the breeder used a bad female parent (ie. one that has the hermie trait).

if two females (that dont have the hermie trait) are bred together EVERY BEAN will be a female at maturity. ive grown 20-25 feminized beans from all different breeders and i have NEVER seen a male. A hermie can happen but its generally one or two male parts and not a full on infestation.

i put this to the test though by taking a feminized bean...grew it to 1ft tall then began light poisoning it (to see if it would hermie under poor grow conditions) i also fed it poor nutrient mixtures (ie. give flower nutes in veg, give veg nutes in flower, etc) basically stress it to hell.

it never hermie'd! i eventually gave up after 1 month of flowering.

it didnt hermie because the breeders (dutch passion by the way) must have took the time to select plants from genetic lines that aren't likely to hermie.

hermies are possible with regular or female beans though. its not a problem with feminized seeds.[/QUOTE]

Okay I have grown nothing but female seeds since I started. I figured I should let you know that before we get to far ahead. To make a female seed you must have a mother plant or two. Okay we got that. So to get a female to produce pollen you got to? Make either A plant or B plant herm? correct? So every Female seed produced even from the very best breeder the strain that is femmed has herm traits in its genes. correct? Im not knocking female seeds they are a gods gift when space are an issue. As stated above I didnt tell him to not go the fem route just to make sure his set up is right. I also said that some breeders are better than others when it comes to fems.

 

[themanwiththeplan]

no no no not true.

i go through this a 100 times a week it seems like but here we go...one more time...

Regular seeds are made from male and female parents (ie. mom gets knocked up by dad then they produce offspring.)

male (xy) and female (xx) can produce either an x or a y offspring.

feminized beans are made of two FEMALE parents. so xx + xx = xx everytime. its impossible to get a male from a feminized bean. hermies are ONLY possible IF the breeder used a bad female parent (ie. one that has the hermie trait).

if two females (that dont have the hermie trait) are bred together EVERY BEAN will be a female at maturity. ive grown 20-25 feminized beans from all different breeders and i have NEVER seen a male. A hermie can happen but its generally one or two male parts and not a full on infestation.

i put this to the test though by taking a feminized bean...grew it to 1ft tall then began light poisoning it (to see if it would hermie under poor grow conditions) i also fed it poor nutrient mixtures (ie. give flower nutes in veg, give veg nutes in flower, etc) basically stress it to hell.

it never hermie'd! i eventually gave up after 1 month of flowering.

it didnt hermie because the breeders (dutch passion by the way) must have took the time to select plants from genetic lines that aren't likely to hermie.

hermies are possible with regular or female beans though. its not a problem with feminized seeds.

Okay I have grown nothing but female seeds since I started. I figured I should let you know that before we get to far ahead. To make a female seed you must have a mother plant or two. Okay we got that. So to get a female to produce pollen you got to? Make either A plant or B plant herm? correct? So every Female seed produced even from the very best breeder the strain that is femmed has herm traits in its genes. correct? Im not knocking female seeds they are a gods gift when space are an issue. As stated above I didnt tell him to not go the fem route just to make sure his set up is right. I also said that some breeders are better than others when it comes to fems.[/QUOTE]

no. you can make fem beans from a hermie female true but thats not a proper way to do it. you can use colloidal silver which causes females to produce male flowers (for pollen to make fem beans) so you wont have hermies later. CS (colloidal silver) only helps produce male parts for pollen .it doesnt alter the genes or pass on a hermie trait so if you use CS on a true female you can have true feminized beans. this (imo) is the proper way to do that.

if you use that method its practically impossible to get a hermie from the offspring so long as the parents dont have the hermie trait already. thats generally why people get hermies from fem seeds (the breeder didnt make sure the parents werent carrying the hermie trait) a good feminized plant shouldnt hermie under any circumstances.

 

[JimmyRecard]

Alright thanks for the support guys. I think I'll be happy with buying feminized seeds. I don't have the time to do clones in this grow (my first grow) So I'm just going to buy a lot of feminized seeds and hope for no hermies. Cheers guys

 

[themanwiththeplan]

Alright thanks for the support guys. I think I'll be happy with buying feminized seeds. I don't have the time to do clones in this grow (my first grow) So I'm just going to buy a lot of feminized seeds and hope for no hermies. Cheers guys

Have no fear. fem beans are safe.

If you're on a budget Nirvana is your friend. they have tons of beans at a low/reasonable price. GHS is another one but many are on two different ends of the spectrum. some love them, some hate them. Female seeds are cheap too and good quality (see C99).

Theres also seedsman skunk #1 and white widow (both $8 each w/ pick and mix or $35 for a 5 pack i believE)

 

[JimmyRecard]

Have no fear. fem beans are safe.

If you're on a budget Nirvana is your friend. they have tons of beans at a low/reasonable price. GHS is another one but many are on two different ends of the spectrum. some love them, some hate them. Female seeds are cheap too and good quality (see C99).

Theres also seedsman skunk #1 and white widow (both $8 each w/ pick and mix or $35 for a 5 pack i believE)

No I am going all out and getting Tangerine Dream Hopefully as good as what everyone is saying. I am buying 20 fem seeds but only need to plant 18. I will hopefully keep the other 2 for my next grow that I am able to clone with

 

[themanwiththeplan]

No I am going all out and getting Tangerine Dream Hopefully as good as what everyone is saying. I am buying 20 fem seeds but only need to plant 18. I will hopefully keep the other 2 for my next grow that I am able to clone with

Ive wanted to try that one. sounds awesome. BF is a GOOD breeder you should be happy with them. Start a journal when you do! ill be sub'd for sure.

 

[JimmyRecard]

Ive wanted to try that one. sounds awesome. BF is a GOOD breeder you should be happy with them. Start a journal when you do! ill be sub'd for sure.

Yeah I will keep you informed. I have to build the room within my room in which it will grow so I am building a wooden frame. I will have room for 18 plants each having a square foot under s scrog with 250 HPS per 9 plants running 2 weeks of veg 18/6 then 10 weeks of 12/12. Can't wait to start just gotta have the house inspection first then I can start. I also bought a little machine sort of thing that helps you roll 60 joints at a time in pre rolled papers with filters so I am planning to get anywhere between 1000-2500 joints from this. But yeah will let you know.

 

[phear]

i would not buy fem seeds.. bad news!

i also wouldnt buy barneys farm seeds they are very un stable, if i were you ide try and get your hands on a couple of clones and smash some lights onto them then take clones off them! but if your only going to run 2x 250w hps ide only be running 1 plant per light anyway, personally for the cost i wouldnt even bother with 250s just go strait for 600's not much price difference but a hell of a lot more light.

all my opinions but just trying to help you out, ps the bigger the pots the better or if going full hydro the more water the more stable things are.

hope its of some help!

 

[Budologist420]

check this out OP

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/473432-fuck-greenhouse-seed-company.html

 

[racerboy71]

check this out OP

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/473432-fuck-greenhouse-seed-company.html

lol, well, i wouldn't buy reg seeds from ghsc, let alone fems.. do your homework and see who has good fems, and buy those and you won't have an issue..
i've grown fems from dna, reserva prevada, sannies, sagarmatha, dr greenthumbs, g13 labs, and a few others, and i've never had an issue with a hermie or a male plant from fem seeds, not a one...

 

[JimmyRecard]

i would not buy fem seeds.. bad news!

i also wouldnt buy barneys farm seeds they are very un stable, if i were you ide try and get your hands on a couple of clones and smash some lights onto them then take clones off them! but if your only going to run 2x 250w hps ide only be running 1 plant per light anyway, personally for the cost i wouldnt even bother with 250s just go strait for 600's not much price difference but a hell of a lot more light.

all my opinions but just trying to help you out, ps the bigger the pots the better or if going full hydro the more water the more stable things are.

hope its of some help!

Remember I am running a SCROG so I don't want the plants any bigger then 1 square foot roughly but I take all advice into consideration. And what instabilities have you seen in the barneys farm seeds? I am going all hydro with a 160 L res.

 

[gudkarma]

what i dont see in this thread, & i never see in any general discussion, is how fems are made.

1) fem seeds are made via pollenation!

2) once pollenated the female plant has a process done. some use STS, others colliadal silver, and really awesome gardeners use a natural method.
2a) if you do the research we can make a discussion from that... but no free ride earn it ...to learn it.

3) once treated, the ROOT ZONE of female pollenated plant (to put in lay terms) "heats up" (like a burn out from a car) from the treatment ...effectively removing the hormone that creates male seed.

its impossible to get seeds from zero pollen.

fem seeds dont just pop into the calyx cause you sprayed some chem on the flower.

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personally, i 100% agree with racerboy.

buy quality.
and that does mean high $.
read journals, check reports, and follow common sense rules when buying anything.

i use fems to my advantage.

you can to.

 

[JimmyRecard]

what i dont see in this thread, & i never see in any general discussion, is how fems are made.

1) fem seeds are made via pollenation!

2) once pollenated the female plant has a process done. some use STS, others colliadal silver, and really awesome gardeners use a natural method.
2a) if you do the research we can make a discussion from that... but no free ride earn it ...to learn it.

3) once treated, the ROOT ZONE of female pollenated plant (to put in lay terms) "heats up" (like a burn out from a car) from the treatment ...effectively removing the hormone that creates male seed.

its impossible to get seeds from zero pollen.

fem seeds dont just pop into the calyx cause you sprayed some chem on the flower.

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personally, i 100% agree with racerboy.

buy quality.
and that does mean high $.
read journals, check reports, and follow common sense rules when buying anything.

i use fems to my advantage.

you can to.

Well that's partly why I was wondering if Barneys Farm Tangerine Dream is a quality fem that I can trust to actually fem? And there has been some discussion on page 1 on how fems are made.

 

[gudkarma]

okay. my fault.

i did go back and read the entire first page.

the process explained where the poster talks about using collidal is correct.

i know for a fact, good quality fem seeds are made from a desirable male pollen in the process... over trying to get the plant to create her own pollen sacks.

still, the poster that has worked his method claims great success... and my original posts should be modified to reflect the STS process & not collidal.

now i have some research to do!

nice!!!!

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barneys farm = is IMO low quality poo-poo.

& i buy one 5 pack of bluecheese every year ...to my utter dissapointment ...never get a quality cut worthy mother.

most seeds i get from them ...have terrible reeferman like germ rates... i wonder why

 

[themanwiththeplan]

DUDE.

1st off: good breeders test their parents (stress them, etc) to make sure they aren't hermie prone BEFORE making fem seeds (to ensure all the seeds will be fem and not hermie). some guys are notorious for taking short cuts to make fem seeds (ie. not testing the parents).

I PERSONALLY tested out a master kush plant from dutch passion. stressed it for about 6 weeks and it would NOT hermie. i was light poisoning it. The leaves started getting all twisty and mutated looking (from the stress) but there were ONLY hairs on that plant...not one pollen sac. that means DP did their homework and my test helped prove it. it may not confirm it but it helps.

Those who dismiss feminized beans as being good are fools.

Ive grown gear (fem) from LOADS of breeders, GHS, DP, Paradise, RP, Seedsman, Female seeds, Dinafem, etc. and the only time i got any beans in my buds was w/ GHS. i got a total of 13 seeds between 6 plants. many say GHS isnt a good breeder so that could contribute to that but all the other companies ive used didnt have a single bean in it.



ALSO barney's farm IS good. Im my current grow journal (see my sig) im growing an Acapulco Gold from barney's farm (and all the plants im growing are feminized as well).

the Acapulco Gold is my biggest plant BY FAR. i means its huge. you can check out my journal if you want but heres a pic or two of the AG after day 1 of 12/12. tell me this looks like a crap breeder. It was vegged 5weeks EXACTLY. top'd at 2 1/2wks...top'd (and the other colas was FIM'd) at week 4 and now it has 5 main tops. all i used was ocean forest, ff trio of nutes, Super crop, LST.

the other plants you see are from dutch passion (strawberry cough), paradise seeds (sensi star) GHS (kings kush), Dinafem (Critical+), Seedsman (Skunk #1) for comparison.

barneys farm gets an A+ from me.

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[The Chemist Brothers]

Ive never had a hermie from these breeders feminized seed variations.

Dinafem- Sweet deep grapefruit, Cloud #9, Blue widow, white siberian
G13 labs- Super skunk, Purple haze, blueberry gum
Sensi seeds- Big bud, Super skunk
Big Buddha Seeds- Blue cheese, Big Buddha Cheese, Cheesus
Pyramid Seeds- Osiris, Tutankhamon
Dutch Passion- Powerplant, Skywalker


i've gotten hermies on these variations

Barneys farm- Laughing buddha
Sativa seeds- Blackjack
Greenhouse- The Church

hence why i dont get Barney's farm, nirvana or greenhouse feminised strains anymore. since GHSC and Barney's farm don't do reg seeds, that pretty much keeps me from ever ordering them again, i cant be having herm genetics near my home. buy feminised for the guaranteed females and personal smoke, while regs are for breeding and finding keepers, that's my way.