Why are they closing dispensaries?

[bob harris]

It just seems unfair.

They say it is because of the ruling on patient to patient...but really? Or was the ruling on person to person just the excuse they could use?

I'm just wondering why the cops pushed so hard on patient to patient transfers....patients need their meds. It's critical now..almost like withdrawal for some.

Was it the 5 ft tall noen cannibis sign hanging out front that bothered the cops? I mean, ya need that to find the place. Who can possibly locate someplace by address alone..especially medicated?. those signs were helpful..

Was it the "on site medication area"....I mean..ya gotta try a few meds, and even if I know what I need...I've gotta medicate RIGHT NOW...It was an evolutionary idea...I thought that soon, every pharmacy would have a room.. Some place to sit, with other patients, and medicate...was looking forward to chewing my scrip oxy right at Miejers..with my buds.

Was it "Guido" the security guard?...Ya he looked scruffy. But ya need a guy with a gun....all the pharmacies have then..Don't they?And ya want him to stand out like that too..Might not know he was security if he were in a suit. And a uniform would scare away customers..er, patients.

It certainly couldn't have had anything to do with money. I mean most of them are non profit...and all that cash(I never was offered the option of "check" or "visa"..though some may) well..it's really expensive to run this place...barley make our salaries..that's why were non profit..And it's only on the days we're busy that you stop by..we don't have 20k around here every day...Just look at our books...see...as a matter of fact...this is the first time we've EVER had that much cash..cause we report it all..and look at the books. Tomorrow will be the first time we deposit 5 figures EVER.

And it certainly couldn't be the amount of meds on hand. We don't allow anyone to store more meds than they have cards for here. That's why we need so many lockers.

Do you think just maybe that dispensaries could have tried just a little harder to look like drug dens?

Sad thing is, most of the ones closing, were the most well run. They are closing because the ruling on p2p made running the business too risky. The ones that are staying open tend to be a courageous few, that run decent places...and mostly the guys with neon, "Guido" and "smoke them if ya got em" areas...weird....

So my question is....what should a dispensary look like? How should it be run. Their sole purpose is for medical patients..shouldn't they look and run more like...well...a place for medical patient?

 

[ohmy]

because dumb asses have medi pot showing up in none medi state....I simple thing...Fuckers got gready and are wrecking it

 

[stumpjumper]

What is your agenda bob?

 

[Murfy]

quite simply-

all the same opposed, are still standing.

 

[blissfest]

I have smoked with a cop and a judge, alot of them are just like you and I.

 

[Milovan]

I used to do 1oz a month for a Judge in LA.

 

[Murfy]

i used to sell-

coke to a heart surgeon.

 

[bob harris]

I have smoked with a cop and a judge, alot of them are just like you and I.

I have too.. Iv'e smoked with a Senator as well....and have had lengthy discussions with them about cannabis...and they always say.."you know..If people could just act responsibly"....

 

[bob harris]

What is your agenda bob?

Quite simple. To try and get people to look at how the medical law has been "stretched and abused" by the very people that wanted it. Do you really think we've handled it well?

Many dispensaries acted professionally...but can you tell me that the ridiculous descriptions I've outlined haven't occurred in mass? And can you tell me that law makers and law enforcement didn't use those less than professional operations, to actively seek a reason close down the dispensaries?

My agenda , as you put it, is to simple get people to look at our actions (the med cannabis crowd) through the eyes of law makers and law enforcement.

They didn't go after dispensaries because they existed, they went after dispensaries because of the flaunting, coffee house method in which most do business

 

[Cory and trevor]

because dumb asses have medi pot showing up in none medi state....I simple thing...Fuckers got gready and are wrecking it

I can't think that's true. Greedy and "act responsible" all make me think things like be a good little boy and hide with your grass like it's a bad thing. I'm going to resist and opose until it's droped completely and considered as edgy as eating an apple to smoke herb. There is my agenda; Bob where you at? I don't think you're being honest here you're on this side on this thread and that side on another. I'm not picking on you but I got this but feeling about you bro and I can't shake it. I'll take an honest asshole over somebody I think isnt being legit all day long.

 

[gotigers0420]

It just seems unfair.

They say it is because of the ruling on patient to patient...but really? Or was the ruling on person to person just the excuse they could use?

I'm just wondering why the cops pushed so hard on patient to patient transfers....patients need their meds. It's critical now..almost like withdrawal for some.

Was it the 5 ft tall noen cannibis sign hanging out front that bothered the cops? I mean, ya need that to find the place. Who can possibly locate someplace by address alone..especially medicated?. those signs were helpful..

Was it the "on site medication area"....I mean..ya gotta try a few meds, and even if I know what I need...I've gotta medicate RIGHT NOW...It was an evolutionary idea...I thought that soon, every pharmacy would have a room.. Some place to sit, with other patients, and medicate...was looking forward to chewing my scrip oxy right at Miejers..with my buds.

Was it "Guido" the security guard?...Ya he looked scruffy. But ya need a guy with a gun....all the pharmacies have then..Don't they?And ya want him to stand out like that too..Might not know he was security if he were in a suit. And a uniform would scare away customers..er, patients.

It certainly couldn't have had anything to do with money. I mean most of them are non profit...and all that cash(I never was offered the option of "check" or "visa"..though some may) well..it's really expensive to run this place...barley make our salaries..that's why were non profit..And it's only on the days we're busy that you stop by..we don't have 20k around here every day...Just look at our books...see...as a matter of fact...this is the first time we've EVER had that much cash..cause we report it all..and look at the books. Tomorrow will be the first time we deposit 5 figures EVER.

And it certainly couldn't be the amount of meds on hand. We don't allow anyone to store more meds than they have cards for here. That's why we need so many lockers.

Do you think just maybe that dispensaries could have tried just a little harder to look like drug dens?

Sad thing is, most of the ones closing, were the most well run. They are closing because the ruling on p2p made running the business too risky. The ones that are staying open tend to be a courageous few, that run decent places...and mostly the guys with neon, "Guido" and "smoke them if ya got em" areas...weird....

So my question is....what should a dispensary look like? How should it be run. Their sole purpose is for medical patients..shouldn't they look and run more like...well...a place for medical patient?

Now heres your quote from another thread. "I've never bought dispensary meds either. Other than a gram at a time to sample, and I agree. The quality of meds isn't too good in Michigan.
You'd think with all these professional care givers, supplying the dispensaries with their labor intensive, finicky, takes mad skills to grow, high dollar meds...the quality would be better"

For a guy that has "never bought dispensary meds" you sure act like you know alot about dispensaries and their business techniques. If your not buying meds why are you in so many different disp. that you can speak intelligently about the masses. Your agenda is messed up and odds are youre a cop. And as much as you bitch about money, youre probably an unemployed cop.

 

[Stoner Smurf]

For a guy that has "never bought dispensary meds" you sure act like you know alot about dispensaries and their business techniques. If your not buying meds why are you in so many different disp. that you can speak intelligently about the masses. Your agenda is messed up and odds are youre a cop. And as much as you bitch about money, youre probably an unemployed cop.

Ha! Now that's some funny shit.

 

[bob harris]

Now heres your quote from another thread. I've never bought dispensary meds either. Other than a gram at a time to sample, and I agree. The quality of meds isn't too good in Michigan.
You'd think with all these professional care givers, supplying the dispensaries with their labor intensive, finicky, takes mad skills to grow, high dollar meds...the quality would be better



For a guy that has "never bought dispensary meds" you sure act like you know alot about dispensaries and there business techniques. If your not buying meds why are you in so many different disp. that you can speak intelligently about the masses. Your agenda is messed up and odds are your a cop. And as much as you bitch about money, your probably an unemployed cop.

Pretty weak attempt at showing inconsistency where none exists.

I do know a bit about dispensaries..learn to read for content. I said I never bought dispensary meds (meaning in bulk, as meds to use) then I said other than a gram at a time to study quality.. I've done that at many, many dispensaries.

It's called research..it's how most people form opinions. And yes, I was truly disappointed by what I saw. I've visited many dispensaries where I did not buy...no need. The coffee house, party hardy atmosphere of the place made further research unnecessary. The damage they were doing to the public image of dispensaries was apparent.

As far as money goes..I'm talking LESS money for meds, how does that lead you to a conclusion that I need more money?

I'm retired..and plenty comfortable financially.

So if you'd like to discuss what could be done to improve the public image of dispensaries, and what could be done in dispensaries to give the apperance of legitimate operation..I'd love to hear your ideas....

Think maybe all meds should be tested and labeled with Cannabanoid break downs? So the patient can find what they need? Think the people working at dispensaries should be knowledgeable about how cannabanoid breakdowns effect the actions of the meds for different conditions? A pharmacist can certainly do that..and after all, a dispensary is intended to be a place where patients can get meds for ailments. As a dispensary for medicine, shouldn't they be able to discuss the uses, and effects of that medicine, like a pharmacist, with their patients?

 

[gotigers0420]

I do..learn to read for content. I said I never bought dispensary med meds (meaning in bulk, as meds to use) then I said other than a gram at a time to study quality.. I've done that at many, many dispensaries.

It's called research..it's how most people form opinions.

As far as money goes..I'm talking LESS money for meds, how does that lead you to a conclusion that I need more money?

Its your quote man, I just copied it.


I'm retired..and plenty comfortable financially.

Because I do not believe your any type of CG at all. I dont believe you even use MM for that matter. Every thread you are involved in, you just try to stir up problems. As far as your research goes, youd have to back it up with some proof (which i know you dont have) in order for me to believe a word you write. Ive seen the pics of "your pot". Great pics from google. I am done with this now and regret the fifteen minutes I devoted to a thread started by you.


Hours after his initial response, Bob has decided to retort. Now that youve had four hours to think about it you triple the length of your original post. thats not an edit, thats a re write. If it takes you that long to come up with an intelligent response, it says alot of your true knowledge.

 

[bob harris]

Because I do not believe your any type of CG at all. I dont believe you even use MM for that matter. Every thread you are involved in, you just try to stir up problems. As far as your research goes, youd have to back it up with some proof (which i know you dont have) in order for me to believe a word you write. Ive seen the pics of "your pot". Great pics from google. I am done with this now and regret the fifteen minutes I devoted to a thread started by you.

Your done with this because you've got nothing to say that can hold up to logic, in the sense of improving medical cannabis as viewed by the public.
And since you have nothing to say about improving the quality of the the medical cannabis movement....you are the weakest link! Goodbye..

 

[Beagle]

If you could, hypothetically, start your own dispensary...how would you run it? Tell me your model for dispensaries.

 

[bob harris]

Ha! Now that's some funny shit.

I agree..that a guy could so twist the written word to advance his un educated position..is quite hilarious.

 

[ozzrokk]

Wrong. They went after dispensaries because they do not want this law and
they do not care what the majority of the state wanted and voted for. They
will do everything they can to disrupt this law and the FULL IMPLEMENTATION
of the LAW. You see what you law enforcement and politicians do not realize is that
IT IS THE LAW wether you like it or not. And it will be FULLY IMPLEMENTED
one day. You see alot is said about all the people that have cards and that go to dispensaries
about how they don't look like they need it. But I do not hear or see arguments about
ammendments to the law to make sure people are legitamily getting cards. Instead I see
everything is about making sure it is near impossible for ANYONE to use the law.
The OP is one to believe that if you do not look like they want you to look. Well
then even though you are sick You simply don't matter.

 

[bob harris]

If you could, hypothetically, start your own dispensary...how would you run it? Tell me your model for dispensaries.

I'd open a small, discreet store front. location would not be critical. People needing meds will find you..
There would be no indication of cannabis on the exterior. Just the name..and the name would be simple and discreet.
I'd have a reception area..just like a Doctors office, and, after checking paperwork and identifying the patient as legal, direct them to another consultation room.

That room would be small..no meds on display, and manned by someone that could intelligently talk to the patient about their needs.
After discussing needs, samples that would be best for relief would be brought out for the patient to inspect.
The samples would be labeled with the cannabanoid breakdowns, supplied by a lab.
The patient chooses, based on cannabanoid content, smell, appareance.

The transfer takes place, based upon the patients choice.

The patient leaves...

No "smoking room"
Employees wearing business casual.

You'd need at least one employee with cg status and max patient count, and have only enough meds on hand to be coverd by that card.

If more meds are needed throughout the day, a phone call is made, and more meds brought to the location. (like they do it in Amsterdam)

That's a simple quick description. it would allow for transfer of meds, while maintaining a professional, discreet appearance.

A full business plan would be much more detailed..but that's a start.

 

[Murfy]

the thing is-

yeah bob. we're doin it. get the fuck of our porch bitch!