Americans founded this land and created a government on this land. End of story.

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Rj41

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@turtlehermit, For a person claiming to be a lawyer, you have not once provided a sound argument on any topic.
 
rowlman

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Who ever gets credit for founding it couldn't be Americans...your not american untill you get here....how the hell can you name yourself after something you haven't discovered yet?And most of our founding fathers were hipocrite assholes with loads of money who crossdressed and sucked eathother off.
 
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Carne Seca said:
Oh and one final thing. Slavery among Native folk was a completely different concept than among white folks. Usually slaves were taken in times of war or were captured after attempts at raiding or stealing. They usually worked for the tribes for a time in servitude and were eventually released or married into the tribe.
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With so many different tribes that varied so much in what they were like it is difficult to use the word "usually. What one tribe "usually" did not not always what another tribe "usually" did. In some cases some captives ended up wives and replacements for deceased family members, but others were brutally tortured and murdered.


Investigation of slavery among the tribes of the Great Plains and the Atlantic slope is difficult. Scattered through early histories are references to the subject, but such accounts are usually devoid of details, and the context often proves then) to be based on erroneous conceptions. Had slavery existed among the Eastern and Southern tribes, we should find in the mass of documentary history as full accounts of the practice as there is concerning the less-known tribes of the northwest coast. The unsatisfactory character of the references should make us cautious in accepting statements regarding the existence of slavery. The early French and Spanish histories, it is true, abound in allusions to Indian slaves, even specifying the tribes from which they were taken, but the terms "slave" and "prisoner" were used interchangeably in almost every such instance. Hennepin, in his account of his own captivity among the Sioux, uses these terms as equivalent, and speaks of himself as a slave, though his story clearly shows that he had been adopted by an old chief in the place of a lost son. With the exception of the area above mentioned, traces of true slavery are wanting throughout the region north of Mexico. In its place is found another institution that has often been mistaken for it. Among the North American Indians a state of periodic intertribal warfare seems to have existed. Disputes as to the possession of land, retaliation for acts of violence, and blood revenge were the alleged causes; but underlying all was the fierce martial spirit of the Indian which ever spurred him from inglorious peace to stirring deeds of war. In consequence of such warfare tribes dwindled through the loss of men, women, and children killed or taken captive. Natural increase was not sufficient to make good such losses; for while Indian women were prolific, the loss of children by disease, especially in early infancy, was very great. Hence arose the institution of adoption. Men, women, and children, especially the latter two classes, were everywhere considered spoils of war. When a sufficient number of prisoners had been tortured and killed to glut the savage passions of the conquerors, the rest of the captives were adopted, after certain preliminaries, into the several gentes, each newly adopted member taking the place of a lost husband, wife, son, or daughter, and being invested with the latter's rights, privileges, and duties. It sometimes happened that small parties went out for the avowed purpose of taking captives to be adopted in the place of deceased members of families. John Tanner, a white boy thus captured and adopted by the Chippewa, wrote a narrative of his Indian life that is a mine of valuable and interesting information. Adoption occasionally took place on a large scale, as, for instance, when the Tuscarora and the Tutelo, on motion of their sponsors in the federal council, were formally adopted as offspring by the Oneida, the Delaware as cooks (an honorable position) by the Mohawk, and the Nanticoke, as offspring by the Seneca. In this way these alien trbes acquired citizenship in the Iroquois League; they were said to be "braces" to the "Extended Cabin," the name by which the Iroquois designated their commonwealth. (See Adoption, Captives).

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/history/indianslaves.htm
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